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Old 08-28-2013, 07:59 PM   #31
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Potash road is a LONG ways below the plateau…it's hard to guess how far, buy probably in the hundreds of feet. Still, the road is hundreds of feet above the Colorado River.
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The road is a light 4X4 trail with no technical obstacles and only minimal clearance required in the summer. I'm not sure what it's like in other seasons as it appears that there is some heavy water that goes through at times. The drive takes several hours, but was quite relaxing and beautiful.
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Pic 1 above is a view of the Colorado. It is out on a bluff and has some boulders that set it off from the road. Thinking back, I probably wasn't supposed to drive out there, but we were all alone and it seemed reasonable. After snapping this shot I backed the Jeep up and ran it right over a boulder. Huge crash! No damage thankfully. That was my only scrape on the trip!!! The boulder can be seen in the second pic in the post above, right side of the pic.

We finished the road and stopped at a nearby turn off to look at some dinosaur footprints. They were way up on the ridge, but we got a pic. Way off to the left, and not mentioned on the sign, were some petroglyphs. It was kinda cool making our own "discovery." Of course others have seen them as well, but we felt cool until we checked the internet. After goofing off for a few, I realized that on the other side of the turnoff was the Poison Spyder trailhead. The boss said no.
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Old 08-29-2013, 08:35 AM   #34
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Nice TR and photos, I love that area. We went up the Shafer Trail in a down pour, it was exciting! I can understand adding drainage.

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Nice thread! 1 and 4 year old on a road trip? You are a brave man!
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The next day we spent in Arches. It's beautiful, but much more traffic than Canyonlands. We took off the freedom tops so we could see the tops of the fins, arches, and other structures.
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Old 08-29-2013, 06:49 PM   #37
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My wife and I giggled every time we drove by this…um, outcropping…
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Old 08-29-2013, 06:50 PM   #38
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Gratuitous Jeep shots.
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The geographical landmarks that make Arches a National Park are seen below. While the Park Rangers were quite friendly, they did not allow me to drive my Jeep onto the monuments for a photo op.
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More Fins in the North part of the Park near Fiery Furnace and Devil's Garden. After visiting we turned back south and left the park via Willow Spring's Road. I'll have the pics on that in my next update.
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Wow awesome photos. Your building memories. Those are priceless.
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Old 08-29-2013, 07:25 PM   #42
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Awesome pictures! Great thread! can't wait to see more of your trip. I am definitely jealous of your little adventure.. and like mentioned before, your gas mileage. My moab doesnt get anywhere near what yours does lol
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Awesome pictures! Great thread! can't wait to see more of your trip. I am definitely jealous of your little adventure.. and like mentioned before, your gas mileage. My moab doesnt get anywhere near what yours does lol
As to the MPG...I drive 2.5 miles to and from work each day and will make a handful of excursions throughout the week. I get about 16 mpg on average. When I go on the highway, I generally get 18-20 mpg. This trip was all about open highway with steep slopes and 4 wheel drive at 10 miles per hour. I averaged 20 miles per gallon city and highway over the whole trip. This is not the norm, but spending a lot of time in the car helped...about 60 hours and 2200 miles over 10 days.
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We left the park via Willow Springs road. It's a 4 wheel drive road out of the park that requires some clearance. It's all sand and slick rock and combinations of the two. It took a couple of hours to cruise along the trail which is well marked. After a few miles you leave the park and are on state land or private property (not sure which). Outside of the park there are several campgrounds. It appears to be a popular area to bring 4 wheelers.

There was very minimal technical driving along the trail, but since I was not experienced with sand or slick rock, it was a good introduction and gave me a ton of confidence. The Jeep ate everything up without challenge including the 200 foot of sand dune we accidentally stumbled into. Thankfully it wasn't steep.
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Along the trail we were pleasantly surprised to find dozens of fossilized dinosaur footprints just off the road. Once we made it back to the hi-way we found our way to some more petroglyphs, which I find incredibly cool!
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This guy is ruining Petroglyphs for what they are…
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Love Moab, it's been a while since I was there. Great pics.
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Old 09-02-2013, 03:40 PM   #49
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After getting a modest taste for Moab wheeling, we only had one day left in the area before the journey home. My wife wanted to spend another day in the park, and if I had brought appropriate hiking gear for a 1 and 4 year old, I would definitely be game as I feel that we really missed out on some hiking opportunities due to the boys being so young. Anyway, our options were National Park limited, so I masterminded a plan to get on Elephant Hill. I had done some research and I was quite certain that his would be the most difficult Trail that my Moab was capable of. I told the Misses that I just HAD to see the Needles. Once there, we would kinda sorta get started headed up the one way trail, and low and behold we would be WHEELIN!

So that morning we headed south out of Moab with a days previsions. It was a LONG drive to the Needles area of Canyonlands, but the drive was nice. Once we arrived, we decided that we wanted more water so we stopped in at the Ranger Station, at which point my plan began to unravel. My wife picked up a brochure on park 4 wheel drive trails. The first thing it said was that tows from the area cost over $1000.00. The next thing she read was that Elephant Hill wasn't for novice drivers (I hadn't yet said anything about Elephant Hill), at which my wife said,

"You weren't planning on doing anything stupid in the Jeep today were you?"



I then preceded to tell her that they were exaggerating and it wouldn't be bad. My wife then asked the Ranger on duty. He said don't do it unless you have lockers and a driving buddy.

Molly looked at me and asked, "Do you have a locker?"..she didn't know what it was.

I took this as an invitation to say, "Yes!" and yet, I do NOT have any lockers.

We left and headed towards the trail head. I got pretty excited, and a bit nervous about dropping a grand on a tow. We got there and saw the hill…
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Old 09-02-2013, 03:48 PM   #50
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Molly stood at the edge of the hill, turned around and looked at me and said, "nope."

She walked around to the passenger side and got in. "We're not doing this."

I had nothing and I was SOOO disappointed. None-the-less, I knew she was right. Not that we couldn't handle it, but there was a reasonable chance that something could go wrong and we hadn't taken all necessary precautions to minimize the impact. Fortunately, my wife loves me and she found another trail for us to go on in the park, this one just a mile from the ranger station. We headed back and took the Colorado River overlook trail. About a mile out on some rough road we came across this little sign…
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Once out on the slick rock I made numerous poor attempts at flexing. My wife was a great sport about it. She got out and took a ton of pics. She even did some spotting for me! I'm not sure I needed it, but it made her feel involved. Most of the trail was stair stepping, something I was not previously familiar with. I was kinda surprised by the clearance of the vehicle and we never once scraped. We got way out on the plateau and all of the sudden the only thing we could see was slick rock steps. We stopped the Jeep and walked out about 150 yards and we couldn't find anything resembling a trail, just open slick rock. It also donned on my wife and I that we hadn't seen another vehicle since we got on the trail, so we got back in the Jeep and headed home not ever making it to the overlook.

Despite shorting the trail and the pay-off by about a mile, we had a great time. My boys thought it was like a ride at Wal-Mart, bouncing back and forth as we took one step at a time! we made it back to the hotel without incident.
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We stayed one last night in Moab and then headed for home. There was major road construction on the way back to Denver and it took 3 hours longer than expected. Only 17 miles per gallon from Moab to Denver. From Denver home, we got 21 mpg.

Moab is really a great town. It's very bohemian with all of the outdoor adventure stuff going on, but it was still blue collar. We had a wonderful time, and hopefully we'll get to back some day!!
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Nice, next time try the southwest Colorado area, I think you will like it also
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Molly stood at the edge of the hill, turned around and looked at me and said, "nope."

She walked around to the passenger side and got in. "We're not doing this."

I had nothing and I was SOOO disappointed. None-the-less, I knew she was right. Not that we couldn't handle it, but there was a reasonable chance that something could go wrong and we hadn't taken all necessary precautions to minimize the impact. Fortunately, my wife loves me and she found another trail for us to go on in the park, this one just a mile from the ranger station. We headed back and took the Colorado River overlook trail. About a mile out on some rough road we came across this little sign…

Im glad you are having a great time, and the pics are awesome, but Im glad your wife had the sense to stop you. Being alone (vehicle wise), in Moab during the summer, with kids, you need to keep the risk to a minimum. I assume you didn't have a satellite phone, so even if you broke down and could afford the tow, it wouldn't be easy calling for it. It is a dangerous situation, and luckily, you didn't have to find out how bad it can get. Sometimes the best "hero" move is to have the guts to leave. Save it for another year, and you'll be modded accordingly, or better yet, come with a buddy in another rig. Keep it safe!

As for Moab, eventhough I was just there a few months ago, I have always wanted to go there in the winter, so I think come December, I'll be headed out west again!
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Well of course I have more guts than sense, but that's why I got married. It was pure survival instinct.
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Thank you for sharing this. I thoroughly enjoyed reading everything you put down let alone those awesome pictures. It does a lot to get the blood flowing. I wish I was closer to the west, Green Bay is really flatland with no comparison to anything you have experienced. The great thing is that you have your family hooked on the adventure too and every year those little guys get bigger and your adventures will be more extensive. Thanks again, that was great.
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Thank you for sharing this. I thoroughly enjoyed reading everything you put down let alone those awesome pictures. It does a lot to get the blood flowing. I wish I was closer to the west, Green Bay is really flatland with no comparison to anything you have experienced. The great thing is that you have your family hooked on the adventure too and every year those little guys get bigger and your adventures will be more extensive. Thanks again, that was great.
Hey man, I drove out to Moab from Jersey...you have no excuse.
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Hey man, I drove out to Moab from Jersey...you have no excuse.
I found your thread on Teluride. It was great. I actually hadn't seen a thread like this on here before and had no idea anyone else was posting in a similar fashion. I think these types of threads need their own forum, or maybe just a "Where did you take your JK today?" thread.

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