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Old 10-01-2013, 09:22 PM   #1
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Red face Total NOOB Question

I am a total Jeep noob. Truly. Just want to have a little fun.

Can my stock Sport do "easy" off road trails with just dealer stock tires and without having to do any of the fancy stuff that I see a lot of people on here have? (Most of which truly looks ABSOLUTELY AMAYZING-some REALLY talented and knowledgeable people here!) I live in Arizona so we have a lot of trails and forest roads that I think I should be ok on? I am not talking about crawling over huge rocks and through rivers - just basically small rocks and really bumpy unpaved roads. I am totally inexperienced. (You can all laugh now but one day I will catch up and remember!!!) I also plan to lookup some of the clubs or schools around here to learn how to do it properly.

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You are in a good location for some great trails, some easy and some hard. One of the easier trails is the box canyon east of Florence.


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Old 10-01-2013, 09:31 PM   #3
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Yes you can do basic trails without anything special. If you get into sand you want to let air out of your tires. Hook up with a club, yo will learn a lot, plus meet great people.
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I ran my stock JKU Sahara thru a wilderness a couple of weekends ago. Did some simple climbing, some sand sliding, all that stuff. Your Jeep will do a lot just as it is, bone stock. Take the doors off first, it's more fun.
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Old 10-01-2013, 09:44 PM   #5
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Thanks! That Box Canyon looks not too scarey for a beginner like me! I definitely will look into local clubs and would love to meet other more experienced folks IRL!
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Old 10-01-2013, 09:57 PM   #6
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Yes, you are absolutely fine for what you describe you will be doing. In fact, it will be the best to know your jeep in its stock format before you will start modding a jeep. Have always another person on trails with you in case you get stock- he/she call pull you out.
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You can have a great time in the AZ desert. Their are tons of mild to moderate trails in the desert. I have wheeled there a few times and really like the scenery the desert offers. Your stock jeep is plenty capable and will handle up to moderate trails. The weakest part of your Jeep are the stock tires. I would at a minimum invest in GY Duratrac's or BFG TA's or good off road tires that also work well on the street. Stay away from rock or mudder type tires. The stock tires could get a cut in the sidewall no time in the rock there as they are a passenger car tire for the most part. Being new to offroading don't venture off road alone, take water and assemble a basic survival and first aid kit at a minimum. If you are not familiar with an area get US Forest Service or BLM maps. There also are good off road AZ trails books found at most 4 wheel drive shops and parts centers. Make sure your spare, jack and tire tools are with you and you are familiar with your jeeps tire changing process. If you are off road changing a tire can present you with problems not encountered on the pavement. As in soft sand the jack can sink ect. being off road with a flat can in essence be like being back in 2wd. I would recommend that you look for a local Jeep club or a off road group and run with them a time or two. I have always found the Jeep and off road clubs friendly and very helpful to newcomers to the Jeeping life. Your Jeep is capable enough to get you into trouble so be cautious. A time or two out will tell you if you will be hooked on off roading and exploring the back country or not.
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That is good advice Moonrider! I definitely need to join a club and find some folks IRL - my local family has absolutely nothing that could tow me out! I do have the tow package on my Sport tho so I can tow THEM out lol! My son has a Sport too but he lives in Ohio - so when we visit here or there we will go on trails!
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Jeeps come pretty trail ready stock from the manufacturer. I've seen plenty of stock or close to stock Jeeps keep up with many modified Jeeps.

I wheeled my 93 Wrangler for about a year with it stock most of which I had my family with me.

My advise would be get a small air compressor so like mentioned above you can air down your tires if needed this way you can air them back up for the drive home. Get a trail shovel, a tow strap and go exploring.
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Old 10-01-2013, 10:17 PM   #10
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Thanks Fireguy! Living in AZ I know never ever leave home outside of city limits without water or first aid or survival items (blanket, food bars of some sort, boots etc). Ever. *Such as when your Mustang's Thermostat housing blew on the Beeline Highway when it was 110' and you had to wait for a tow and the nearest scenery you could describe was somewhere between Fountain Hills and Payson and I see a lot of cactus*

I will look into better tires for sure!

JRW - thanks for the advice on the compressor!
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Old 10-01-2013, 10:37 PM   #11
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I should have known you would know that. My last trip down there was awesome took a nice 30+ mile run just northwest of Superior. Go have some fall/winter fun now, we played in our first snow last saturday.
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It's pretty amazing what a stock jeep can do. This weekend I watched a stock TJ go through some hairy areas. It's all about going slow and choosing good lines.
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:40 AM   #13
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A stock JK is WAY more capable than many of the Rubi owners would have you believe. Is a Rubi bad-azz? Sure it is, but personally I didn't want to pay for something I wasn't going to use (not a lot of rock crawling in Louisiana) and my Jeep is a daily driver, so a Sport S fit my needs better, and left coin in my pocket for more fishing tackle (my real hobby). Your Jeep will do just fine, go with another responsible adult, use common sense (un-common these days), plan for the "what-ifs", and have fun.
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Old 10-02-2013, 09:00 AM   #14
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Just get a good recovery kit and 12v compressor, best to find a friend to go wheeling with. I used my bone stock 2013 sport with stock SR-A tires and went on some more moderate trails without any issues.
Most forums for any topic are filled with the die hards with the money to play. But all Jeeps are built to play and will perform great right off the lot.

Most important thing in a Jeep is the driver, take your time and drive smart and safe.
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Clubs and your Jeep

I am in 2 Jeep clubs in Arizona. We have stock Jeeps that come on many of our runs. You should also buy the book called Arizona Backroads & 4-Wheel-Drive Trails by Charles Wells. You can get it at Amazon. PM me and I will give you links to the clubs. Each club has meetups once a month where we go 4x4ing. We usually have about 20-25 Jeeps that come each time. I can also give you a lot of advise on what to bring, etc.
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I am a total Jeep noob. Truly. Just want to have a little fun.

Can my stock Sport do "easy" off road trails with just dealer stock tires and without having to do any of the fancy stuff that I see a lot of people on here have? (Most of which truly looks ABSOLUTELY AMAYZING-some REALLY talented and knowledgeable people here!) I live in Arizona so we have a lot of trails and forest roads that I think I should be ok on? I am not talking about crawling over huge rocks and through rivers - just basically small rocks and really bumpy unpaved roads. I am totally inexperienced. (You can all laugh now but one day I will catch up and remember!!!) I also plan to lookup some of the clubs or schools around here to learn how to do it properly.
Just keep in mind that after one trip you could find yourself spending large amounts of cash on upgrades...its addicting.

Even trails like Box canyon have one or 2 spots where it can be done with a stock jeep, but you will see what a a lift and larger tires can do for you by watching those jeeps in your group do the same obstacle you did with much more ease.
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Yes, you are absolutely fine for what you describe you will be doing. In fact, it will be the best to know your jeep in its stock format before you will start modding a jeep. Have always another person on trails with you in case you get stock- he/she call pull you out.
3rd Jeep and I second anyone that to this point has said learn your vehicle stock.

See that it will do then add what you actually NEED to get where you want to go. If you dont have the taste or nerves for a 5 diamond trail, you don't need to mod out t o that level of jeep. If content with being able to get down a road that you cant in a prius, go with that.

I've gone with the idea always for myself, mod it when it breaks or prevents, not just for the hell of it.
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Ditto on the book Guide to AZ Backroads & 4 Wheel Drive Trails.

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Yes, you are absolutely fine for what you describe you will be doing. In fact, it will be the best to know your jeep in its stock format before you will start modding a jeep. Have always another person on trails with you in case you get stock- he/she call pull you out.

x2 learn how the jeep handles in stock before you mod and def go with a friend the first few times. Possibly even have an experienced friend as your copilot to help you discover the potential of a stock jeep!

I'm running fully stock in my '13 JK sport I got end of June, and its amazing to explore and see the capabilities it can do offroading w/o mods!
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You can have a great time in the AZ desert. Their are tons of mild to moderate trails in the desert. I have wheeled there a few times and really like the scenery the desert offers. Your stock jeep is plenty capable and will handle up to moderate trails. The weakest part of your Jeep are the stock tires. I would at a minimum invest in GY Duratrac's or BFG TA's or good off road tires that also work well on the street. Stay away from rock or mudder type tires. The stock tires could get a cut in the sidewall no time in the rock there as they are a passenger car tire for the most part. Being new to offroading don't venture off road alone, take water and assemble a basic survival and first aid kit at a minimum. If you are not familiar with an area get US Forest Service or BLM maps. There also are good off road AZ trails books found at most 4 wheel drive shops and parts centers. Make sure your spare, jack and tire tools are with you and you are familiar with your jeeps tire changing process. If you are off road changing a tire can present you with problems not encountered on the pavement. As in soft sand the jack can sink ect. being off road with a flat can in essence be like being back in 2wd. I would recommend that you look for a local Jeep club or a off road group and run with them a time or two. I have always found the Jeep and off road clubs friendly and very helpful to newcomers to the Jeeping life. Your Jeep is capable enough to get you into trouble so be cautious. A time or two out will tell you if you will be hooked on off roading and exploring the back country or not.
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I just took my stock ruby wheels and tires off for a bigger set. I am about to list them on CL and I live in Phoenix. Wheels are perfect never off road and tires (bfg mk) have 13k with full discount tires warranty. Let me know if u are interested.

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