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Old 06-19-2011, 08:14 PM   #31
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It has nothing to do with vehicle capabilities. It has to do with how you load the trailer. I've hauled over 4000 pounds with my JK, but I have a huge flat trailer. I just have to load it backwards.

Traditional theory, says load the heaviest items to the front. Can't do that in a JK. It's too short, wheel-base wise. The heavier your tongue weight is, the lighter your front end is. It's like a reverse fulcrum (or seesaw). Pressure on the rear makes the front end lift.
Regardless how you loaded the trailer, in the US of A when you kill someone with that overloaded rig, the person's survivors get to take all your money in the law suite that results. That is why they post the limits. And I for one am happy about the fact that there is some repercussions for those who ignore the warnings and physics.

3500 lbs to 4000 lbs is not that much of an overload and you may get away with that on a JKU however on a JK depending on model, the overload is double at 4000 lbs and that is unacceptable by any measure.

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Old 06-19-2011, 08:24 PM   #32
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re: "It has nothing to do with vehicle capabilities"

It has everything to do with what the man wearing the funny hat tells the barracuda that's going after what's left of your estate after they peel your remains off the sides of somebody's bent stuff.

I once read the story by a guy in his Ram 3500 4x4 dually that towed his deconstructed 20000# fab shop up the Mississippi, thru the NW Territories and into Alaska.....and all the preliminary set up he went through with special tires, etc. He had photos, told of the difficulty, and the various legal issues he faced.

These days I prefer to keep my own liabilities to a minimum.

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Old 06-19-2011, 08:33 PM   #33
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I have towed near the limit from MA to FL and to ME and all over creation between MA and ME on various vacations. I can say that on some cornering it is gnarly. Double that weight and make one mistake of not crawling around some corners, your tow load will drive you around the corner rather than the other way around....that is physics in action. The other concern is the ability of your brakes to stop the load. Less of a concern if the trailer has brakes but that still doesn't solve the tail wagging the dog effect. That is the main reason for the load limits.
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Old 06-21-2011, 08:21 AM   #34
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sorry to butt back in on my thread;

1. i bought the car from a dealership and the vehicle didnt have an owner's manual
2. i was looking for a quick answer for example, 2000 lbs, 3000 lbs, etc...
3. i made the satement about the viscosity in the tranny fluid becuase i have an automatic. i know manuals use different fluid and was wanting to know the different capacity for an auto 2010 4x4 jeep wrangler so that i didnt burn up my tranny because it has a different viscosity in auto tranny fluid than manuals.

some of you need to relax a little bit and understand that not everyone is as awesome as you and sometimes need a little guidance in areas that they are unfamiliar, SHIT!!!
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Old 06-21-2011, 10:06 AM   #35
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Hay Madwick, you sparked a great discussion in a forum....you know, a place were people discuss things...so don't get your shots too bunched up. The reason for the comment(s) about the owner's manual is that is the basis for what you can do with your jeep. The manuals are now available on pdf from jeep so it is just a matter of visiting their web site and getting one. Here is a link to your manual.

When you begin a discussion about towing limits folks are pretty passionate about the capabilities of their jeeps.
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Old 06-21-2011, 04:52 PM   #36
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And to the people concerned about my overloading. I know that I am pushing the limits. I stay in the right lane and I'm driving less than 5 miles. I keep to the minimum speed and I adjust my stopping distances.

I try to get all my supplies for a given day. Because I don't like paying labor charges for guys that are sitting around while I am making a second or third trip for materials. I have to get this house done before my wife has a coronary. Or divorces me.

I would never haul this in "stop or go traffic". Or on the Interstate. I have 3 turns and 2 stop lights. And I use way more straps than necessary.

And to the OP, I didn't know you had no manuals. If your Jeep came with a "Trailer Tow" package, than you have 3.73 gearing at a minimum. So the 200/350 lb tongue weight and 2000/3500 lb trailer weight limits apply for the JK/JKU.

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