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Old 10-28-2011, 02:44 PM   #1
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Track bars go on tomm...question

Will be putting on my new JKS front/rear track bars tomorrow afternoon and wanted to check on something with those here who can help. Should we lift the jeep up and place it on axle stands to remove the stock track bars or just take them off while the jeep is on the ground? Is there a reason to lift it before removing the old ones? Any concern here over damaging the bushings or anything else if the old ones are taken off while the jeep is on the ground? I understand that we don't torque everything back up with the new bars until the jeep is sitting on the ground with the full weight on.

Advice, comments, suggestions are mucho appreciated.

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For the track bars you should keep it on the ground, no need to lift it. This should have been made clear already in your other posts on the other forums.
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For the track bars you should keep it on the ground, no need to lift it. This should have been made clear already in your other posts on the other forums.
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For the track bars you should keep it on the ground, no need to lift it. This should have been made clear already in your other posts on the other forums.
Actually I've read more from others about lifting the jeep to relieve tension on the joints of the track bar then from doing it while seated on the ground. JKS also recommends this in their install instructions. Got any better advice?
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I just put a JKS rear adj. TB on last week. Left mine on the ground, no jacking required. If you're not changing height or trac bar locations, just adjust it to the exact same length at the stocker, (That is if your axle is centered now).

The jeep will probably shift when you pull the stocker off. Just bolt up one end of the new one & then have your buddy push on the side of the tub or use your legs to push the body over until the bolt slides in. Very easy.

Stand behing the jeep & make sure the axle is centered before you tighten it all up. My tires stick out so I just put masking tape on the tread & put black marker marks on the tape.

I think jacking the jeep up would make the entire process much more work, almost sounds a bit dangerous to me.

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I just put a JKS rear adj. TB on last week. Left mine on the ground, no jacking required. If you're not changing height or trac bar locations, just adjust it to the exact same length at the stocker, (That is if your axle is centered now).

The jeep will probably shift when you pull the stocker off. Just bolt up one end of the new one & then have your buddy push on the side of the tub or use your legs to push the body over until the bolt slides in. Very easy.

Stand behing the jeep & make sure the axle is centered before you tighten it all up. My tires stick out so I just put masking tape on the tread & put black marker marks on the tape.

I think jacking the jeep up would make the entire process much more work, almost sounds a bit dangerous to me.

Good luck!
Can you elaborate on the 1" NF Jam nut on the track bar? Thanks for the info so far.
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Can you elaborate on the 1" NF Jam nut on the track bar? Thanks for the info so far.
I changed mine on the ground Jude. I don't see what you're talking about in the quoted text, but there is a large jam nut on the track bar that you jam (tighten against) the unthreaded portion of the bar to hold the length you set.
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I changed mine on the ground Jude. I don't see what you're talking about in the quoted text, but there is a large jam nut on the track bar that you jam (tighten against) the unthreaded portion of the bar to hold the length you set.
When you took off the stock one, was it easy to push the jeep to center the axle? I'm sorry if I've asked before but I don't remember. I've been reading so much on this lately that my head is starting to spin.
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Actually I've read more from others about lifting the jeep to relieve tension on the joints of the track bar then from doing it while seated on the ground. JKS also recommends this in their install instructions. Got any better advice?

That's how I did mine, on the ground. No issues, no death wobble and diff is centered. I've given you about all the advice I have on this. Good Luck.
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A friend who was gonna help with the install had to cancel for today. Couldn't get them done.
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too bad, no fun when the parts are sitting home and not installed! Hopefully soon!
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too bad, no fun when the parts are sitting home and not installed! Hopefully soon!

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Can you elaborate on the 1" NF Jam nut on the track bar? Thanks for the info so far.
I think you're overthinking this thing. Just bolt the sucker up & go wheeling. 20 minute job max. The trac bar can't twist once it's bolted up on both ends. Don't really know what the heck the jam nut is for anyway, just tighten it like AS said.
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The jam nut is used to tighten up the internal threads of the track bar. With out the jam nut there would be excessive wear on the threads not from twisting but the constant pushing and pulling that would be exerted on them.
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I think you're overthinking this thing. Just bolt the sucker up & go wheeling. 20 minute job max. The trac bar can't twist once it's bolted up on both ends. Don't really know what the heck the jam nut is for anyway, just tighten it like AS said.
Sometimes I think your right! However it's the axle centering that's got me nervous. Want to make sure it's done right and I DO IT right.
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Sometimes I think your right! However it's the axle centering that's got me nervous. Want to make sure it's done right and I DO IT right.

I hear ya, but if it's centered now & you duplicate the length of the new trac bar to the one you are currently using, the axle will be in the exact same location.

If your tires are inside your fenders then just put a straight edge across your fenders & measure in to your tire. Make sure they are the same on both sides & you are done. Easy as pie.

If your tires stick out, put the masking tape on the tread & use a tape measure & a marker to lign it up.
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When you took off the stock one, was it easy to push the jeep to center the axle? I'm sorry if I've asked before but I don't remember. I've been reading so much on this lately that my head is starting to spin.
It was pretty easy. I did mine by myself but having an extra person to push on the Jeep would definately help.

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Sometimes I think your right! However it's the axle centering that's got me nervous. Want to make sure it's done right and I DO IT right.
Why? You've lifted it and kept the stock track bar, correct? So right now it is off center. All you are doing is correcting it. It still tracks straight now even though it's not centered, so just adjust the length of the track bar until you get the axle centered and you're golden.
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Ageless,

So when you did yours yourself you:

1. Removed Track Bar while Jeep is on the ground
2. installed at least one side of the new bar in mounting hole
3. stood beside the jeep and "pushed?" against it
4. measured difference, adjusted bar, bolt in

When you push against the jeep and the track bar is not connected, does the entire body shift and stay where you push it over too? Does it lean back or move back over to where it was before you pushed?

I'm contemplating doing this my self next weekend because it's getting harder to find help as of late.
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Ageless,

So when you did yours yourself you:

1. Removed Track Bar while Jeep is on the ground
2. installed at least one side of the new bar in mounting hole
3. stood beside the jeep and "pushed?" against it
4. measured difference, adjusted bar, bolt in

When you push against the jeep and the track bar is not connected, does the entire body shift and stay where you push it over too? Does it lean back or move back over to where it was before you pushed?

I'm contemplating doing this my self next weekend because it's getting harder to find help as of late.

I'm around next weekend and would be happy to assist if needed. Just let me know when and where so I can plan it with the boss. I could also bring along my compressor and tools if needed. PM me if interested.
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Posting up some pictures here and on the lift thread showing the new JKS bars. A big improvement.





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