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Old 08-25-2013, 11:42 PM   #1
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Our Altima lease ended last week. I spent $70 filling our escalade today which was 3/4 empty. My wife was driving the Altima and it was our daily as well. The escalade is for family excursions and the jk is my toy.

I estimate that the escalade will take 3-4 fills power month. So, I'm thinking of leasing a legacy, Altima, Passat, outlander sport, Patriot, or anything that is about $200/ month for a 2 yr lease. Thereby, keeping my jk and trading in once the diesel is out.

Or, trade in the jk manual for a jku autotragic.

I have a 18 month old daughter and a 75# boxer. I also found out that wife is pregnant again. I do not want to take our dog in the escalade for family trips. My wife does not have the patience to be efficient on the manual.

The jk was purchased April 2012 and has 5900 miles. It had a misfire in cylinder #2, but cel has not come on after software upgrade done by dealer. Sport s with infinity sound. Soft top. Kbb suggests 22k for trade in "stock".


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Old 08-25-2013, 11:51 PM   #2
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The 5 speed Pentastar combo is delightful. Trade now. Otherwise, you're going to not only have to wait for the diesel, but ... do you really want another first year for the Wrangler engine

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Old 08-26-2013, 12:01 AM   #3
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The EPA totally negated all the reasons for owning a diesel, do your homework if you think this is what you really want. More than likely it will add $4500 for the diesel, then you pay $1 more per gallon. Pay close attention to the grand cherokee's and their issues they will be having in the coming months.

Not trying to be a Debbie Downer, just don't fall for the "hype". Think for yourself.
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Old 08-26-2013, 12:53 AM   #4
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If I was in your position I would get another car just for the better gas mileage. A legacy wagon has enough room for your family including the dog, gets 25-30 mpg on the highway, and is great in the winter. Keep your JK as a toy, a jku would get the same if not worse mpg then your escalade. I just moved father from where I work, and will be buying a old Subaru for a dd, to keep the miles off my jeep and save money on gas
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:03 AM   #5
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You've got false hopes and expectations for the diesel Wrangler.

Diesels are for those that appreciate diesels, not necessarily for those wanting relief from their Escalades. The economics don't really work.

It sounds like you want better mileage, and don't get what diesels are really all about. So, don't wait for some pie-in-the-sky Jeep remedy to solve the Escalade problem.
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:10 AM   #6
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You've got false hopes and expectations for the diesel Wrangler.

Diesels are for those that appreciate diesels, not necessarily for those wanting relief from their Escalades. The economics don't really work.

It sounds like you want better mileage, and don't get what diesels are really all about. So, don't wait for some pie-in-the-sky Jeep remedy to solve the Escalade problem.
This too. A friend of mine had a diesel liberty and it was in the shop constantly. The towing advantages of a diesel won't really apply to a JK, as the tow rating is limited by the wheelbase not the engine
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:28 AM   #7
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People been waiting for the Diesel Wrangler for so long it is funny. If it does hit it is going to have such a dealer premium tacked on it you would need to sell a kidney to afford it.
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Old 08-26-2013, 07:35 AM   #8
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I hate should-I-wait threads. I mean, worse than the wave ones.
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Old 08-26-2013, 08:14 AM   #9
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I hate should-I-wait threads. I mean, worse than the wave ones.
Lol.

We are about three years away from wrangler diesel? I'm probably going to lease a 2013 legacy sedan if any still available at the price they are advertising of 175/ month. Hopefully by then Chrysler would will have addressed any issues on the diesel.
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Old 08-26-2013, 09:20 AM   #10
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I was a very determined diesel hold-out, but relented and bought a 2013 JKR 2-door, 6-spd. It is the only gasoline-powered rig in my "fleet."
I have no regrets- I've put 3k miles on it, and I am really happy with the Pentastar. I am warming up to gasoline, especially for creeping around in the mountains. The JKR is silent- even with the soft top down, you can barely tell it is running by smell or sound. In town and on the highway, it is a dream- I never expected a Jeep to be so nice to drive. It has exceeded 20 mpg on a couple of highway trips- not great, but better than I hoped for. Sure I would like the greater low-end torque and probable greater fuel efficiency of a diesel, but don't think either is worth holding out for years over- the Pentastar is a good match for this rig.
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Old 08-26-2013, 09:29 AM   #11
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My dealer told me there is a huge chance the Jeep Diesel won't be for sale in the US at all. But it will be shipped to other countries where diesel is the main fuel supported. You could be waiting forever. I could be wrong but I have seen many cars not come out in the U.S.
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Old 08-26-2013, 09:32 AM   #12
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My dealer told me there is a huge chance the Jeep Diesel won't be for sale in the US at all. But it will be shipped to other countries where diesel is the main fuel supported. You could be waiting forever. I could be wrong but I have seen many cars not come out in the U.S.
That is how the situation is currently. All wrangler diesels currently produced are for export only.

Subaru dropped the price on their legacy to 129/ month. But I can't find any in stock at that price :/
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Old 08-28-2013, 10:57 AM   #13
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How about a dizzle Jetta in the meantime?
(not sure what kind of lease they would have)
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Old 08-28-2013, 11:40 AM   #14
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I have a Legacy as my daily, 5 speed manual which I'm not sure you can get in 2013, but my city mpg is 23. Besides gas is cheaper than diesel.

Take a look at the Outback too, it uses the legacy frame but has more room and more ground clearance (my only issue with the sedan especially in Nor'Easter snow dumps). I just got some dealer junk mail, special offers on Outback 13's since the redesign in 2014. Either the 13 or 14 Outback is well equipped with all the gadgets that make the casual driver happy, Legacies are a little less equipped.
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Old 08-28-2013, 05:36 PM   #15
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No one has a clue as to what the diesel will cost, nor what the specs will be....so no one can tell you if you should wait or not. It is up to you....

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