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Old 05-12-2013, 08:18 PM   #61
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Sure, so you're agreeing with me. The OP would have to run the numbers and figure out if its worth it. If the OP's only purpose for trading in his Jeep is to save money... Then he can just run the numbers to see if it will be in his favors. If you're trading an M3 for a Ford Focus... Then yes, you will probably save heaps up front. Thanks for pointing that out. We're not talking about a $50K vehicle. His 2007 Unlimited is probably worth somewhere in the 20's. That's a little different than your proposed situation.
Sure, he should "run the numbers". But the threshold is simple:

If value of jeep is = or > than that of fuel efficient car, he will be guaranteed to save money (maintenance, tires, etc.) and for every 10k miles he drives, he can also expect to save $1500 at $4 a gallon.

Hardly the situation you mentioned where nobody ever has saved money... but yes, I do agree with you in principle that he should see if it makes sense for the duration he plans on being in his situation.

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Old 05-12-2013, 08:22 PM   #62
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Dear, God - do not do this. I'll make you a sweet deal on my 335i and we can swap. The 300 lb-ft make it easier for relaxed driving anyway...
I only have 295 Ft-lb , but 120 more ponies and A LOT more rpm.

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Old 05-12-2013, 08:30 PM   #63
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Sure, he should "run the numbers". But the threshold is simple:

If value of jeep is = or > than that of fuel efficient car, he will be guaranteed to save money (maintenance, tires, etc.) and for every 10k miles he drives, he can also expect to save $1500 at $4 a gallon.

Hardly the situation you mentioned where nobody ever has saved money... but yes, I do agree with you in principle that he should see if it makes sense for the duration he plans on being in his situation.
I never said "nobody saves," I said I haven't seen it. There's. big difference. I used to be an analyst (math type analysis). It's never quite so simple. My original point, which I think we all agree with, is that the OP has to do the math. Without numbers on the table it becomes a question of who traded their Jeep and regretted it.
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Old 05-12-2013, 10:13 PM   #64
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GTR, GT3 RS or ZR1 for me for that money any day. The Viper is fast, but unforgiving.
To each his own. I wouldn't own an import and Chevys are a dime a dozen everywhere on the street.
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Old 05-13-2013, 07:40 AM   #65
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do yourself a favor and run the numbers, just make sure you include everything you can think of. I was thinking about trading my 2010 Rubi I bought used in on a new JK in a year or so (have other bills/priorities first) because I was thinking about things like full doors, hard top, better radio, uconnect (or basic bluetooth connectivity) or maybe go to a 4 door.

Here is the cost I came up with to trade after owning mine 2 years (for about a $25K JK):

new sales tax: $2187.5
new down (assuming I am at break even point): $3000 - this should get me to the same amount financed.
restarting finance charges: $6905.97. High interest rate due to a previous divorce

Total: $12093.47 more if I trade (again mainly due to new interest charges).

So in my scenario, I can pay retail for the items I want and still be less than half the overall cost to trade in. I still will not have the new motor, I will not have a new warranty, or the new interior, but I can have both tops, both OEM door styles (even paying $1K each for doors) either an RBZ AND UCONNECT or a better aftermarket unit, keep my underseat carry boxxes, and still have a Rubi over a Sport.

You may want to think about how much in interest you will be paying over what you have now. I hate throwing away money on gas, but I hate throwing it at a company for starting over again as well.
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Old 05-28-2013, 10:19 PM   #66
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Thanks everyone for their input! I went out and test drove a couple cars (GTI and the new Jeep compass) and decided to forget about the Focus ST simply because it was too expensive. Im leaning more toward the Compass because of fuel economy and i'm not sacrificing as much space plus I'll still technically be driving a jeep! i'm going to run the numbers some more and whenever I get back home for a weekend I'll drive by my jeep dealership and see what kind of deals they can get me. Again thanks everyone for their advice and I'll let y'all know what happens next!
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Old 05-29-2013, 12:25 AM   #67
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Three letters, TDI.

Absolutely the way to go! You can't beat VW TDI for torque and fuel economy.

I've been big VW and Jeep fan since I first got my license and usually always owned one or the other (or both at times).

I'd recommend for you depending on your cash flow situation, possibly a VW TDI Jetta or Passat... you can't beat the mileage.

I currently own a 2012 Passat TDI Sport with Tiptronic and I'm still getting around 1000kms/tank in the city and around 1200 on the highway even with the auto.

Even the older TDI's got excellent mileage.. My last TDI before the Passat was an '04 Jetta Sport TDI and it got around 1100kms/tank (manual).

Yes the HP numbers may be lower to a gasser GTI but remember TORQUE is what you feel.. and a 140hp CR TDI 2.0L with Malone Tune will get you 324lbs of torque at the crank and you'll still get 1000kms+ per tank! Can't beat that...
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Old 05-29-2013, 12:33 AM   #68
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If your questioning it then sell it. You put on a lot of miles. If I did that in a jeep I could part with that much gas money. We will be here if you get a jeep again.
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Old 05-29-2013, 05:43 AM   #69
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I drive 90 round trip a day in my 2013 JKUR and love every mile. I have battled the whole gas mileage thing time and time again. At the end of the day it is not "that " much more and I would rather be driving something I enjoy everyday, just my $.02...

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