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Old 02-08-2013, 07:52 PM   #31
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Awsome. Thanks.

Does it store the pre-programmed "cans". If absolutely necessary and you cannot boost the octane. Does it have storage (in memory) of itself, the tune for the lower octane...

Or do you have to be "online" and within reach of them to download/install that specific tune in order to get running again.

I suppose I'm trying to say, is can you switch tunes on the fly in the middle of no where when and as needed. Are they stored in the thing?

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Good info OP.....Thanks for posting and keep it going. If I didn't need a rear driveshaft, Genright bumpers, a winch, I'd be all over this. I am going to have to add this item to my list but probably towards the bottom until it's one of those items you can switch it into crawling mode, mud mode, nasty dirt bike trail mode, that kinda of thing. Those are the programs I want.

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Awsome. Thanks.

Does it store the pre-programmed "cans". If absolutely necessary and you cannot boost the octane. Does it have storage (in memory) of itself, the tune for the lower octane...

Or do you have to be "online" and within reach of them to download/install that specific tune in order to get running again.

I suppose I'm trying to say, is can you switch tunes on the fly in the middle of no where when and as needed. Are they stored in the thing?
Oh absolutely...they are all self contained. If you kept it in the Jeep and needed to it's 5 or 10 minutes to switch back to stock or one of the other tunes. Even less to just change something like throttle boost or ESP disable. YES you absolutely have that option and its easy.
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Good info OP.....Thanks for posting and keep it going. If I didn't need a rear driveshaft, Genright bumpers, a winch, I'd be all over this. I am going to have to add this item to my list but probably towards the bottom until it's one of those items you can switch it into crawling mode, mud mode, nasty dirt bike trail mode, that kinda of thing. Those are the programs I want.
I didn't note it but it does have a very specific fuel savings mode as well as a "krawling" tune....
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Now we are talking. Any idea if the krawling mode helps with cooling?
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Thanks man but what I 'm still not comprehending is this '2o minute' thing, and I've seen it on their forums etc.

If you're in the sticks and out of gas and the only available is one of the 3 canned tunes, why does it take 20 minutes to "re-flash" or upload the tune into the Jeeps system.

20 minutes up/downloading wifi or wired is susceptible to anything. If it's a flash drive to flash in the Jeep what's taking twonety minutes?
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Thanks man but what I 'm still not comprehending is this '2o minute' thing, and I've seen it on their forums etc.

If you're in the sticks and out of gas and the only available is one of the 3 canned tunes, why does it take 20 minutes to "re-flash" or upload the tune into the Jeeps system.

20 minutes up/downloading wifi or wired is susceptible to anything. If it's a flash drive to flash in the Jeep what's taking twonety minutes?
Built into the safety feature of the tool is multiple back checks. When you load a tune it first downloads the factory tune for backup and that takes a few minutes. You then select the custom aspects of the tune you want to load and load it. Once that is done it then takes you thru a sequence that confirms the tune loaded properly, that the backup is secure and that the canbus properly accepted it to ensure all os safe with your computer and tune. I guessed at twenty minutes. I just went out and time how long it took to return it to stock and it was six minutes. Then how long to reload it and it was seven minutes.
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hmm.. still not clear. there's mixing of downloand and computers.
Does the thing _store_ all configurations.

1. you download via the internet the canned tunes or updated whatevers from them.

2. the physical device now stores everything.

3. you drive out to the middle of now where run out of gas that matches your installed tune.

4. next availabe gas station has nothing but 80+ and no boosts.

Can you take out of the glove compartment, plug the thing in, and install the 80 canned tune. That's already (and always) installed.

This aspect is missing here and on their site.

Or do you need to connec to a computer and / or internet to get the appropriate tune. Or even if it's installed, to make it work?
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hmm.. still not clear. there's mixing of downloand and computers.
Does the thing _store_ all configurations.

1. you download via the internet the canned tunes or updated whatevers from them.

2. the physical device now stores everything.

3. you drive out to the middle of now where run out of gas that matches your installed tune.

4. next availabe gas station has nothing but 80+ and no boosts.

Can you take out of the glove compartment, plug the thing in, and install the 80 canned tune. That's already (and always) installed.

This aspect is missing here and on their site.

Or do you need to connec to a computer and / or internet to get the appropriate tune. Or even if it's installed, to make it work?
Ok..now I see where you are coming from.

When you first buy it...depending on when it was manufactured you MAY have to updated it from their web site prior to using it the first time. When you plug it into your Jeep it will tell you that immediately.

Once you update it the first time IF you even need to that's it...

All of the tunes are stored in it as is your factory tune if you ever want to restore it. You don't need the internet or anything from that point forward..nothing. You can take it out and plug it in anywhere at any time and return your Jeep to stock, change settings, alter tunes, anything that it's capable of and it's all in the tool already.

The ONLY time you will ever need to update it again via their web site is when they update what is called the CROM. The CROM is the tune file for your specific type of vehicle. On occasion and I expect it will happen with the Jeep 3.6L they add features or find things they can improve upon and they release a new CROM file on their web site. When they do and if you want to you can then return your Jeep to stock, upgrade the tool with the new CROM file via their web site and then retune your Jeep. In 3 years I did that once with my Dodge Challenger...never in 5 years with my V10 Ram...etc.

Does that help?
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Ok..now I see where you are coming from.

When you first buy it...depending on when it was manufactured you MAY have to updated it from their web site prior to using it the first time. When you plug it into your Jeep it will tell you that immediately.

Once you update it the first time IF you even need to that's it...

All of the tunes are stored in it as is your factory tune if you ever want to restore it. You don't need the internet or anything from that point forward..nothing. You can take it out and plug it in anywhere at any time and return your Jeep to stock, change settings, alter tunes, anything that it's capable of and it's all in the tool already.

The ONLY time you will ever need to update it again via their web site is when they update what is called the CROM. The CROM is the tune file for your specific type of vehicle. On occasion and I expect it will happen with the Jeep 3.6L they add features or find things they can improve upon and they release a new CROM file on their web site. When they do and if you want to you can then return your Jeep to stock, upgrade the tool with the new CROM file via their web site and then retune your Jeep. In 3 years I did that once with my Dodge Challenger...never in 5 years with my V10 Ram...etc.

Does that help?
As an example I just bought the Trinity last week. They literally just in the last week or two released the new tune for the 2012 3.6L...so...

When I bought it, that tune was not already on it because it was a brand new CROM release so I tried to use it on my Jeep and it told me immediately it had to be updated via their web site which took a few minutes tops.

Once that was done I have been playing with it and running all the tunes as well as took it in to the dealership today for an oil change. Prior to getting there I stopped and retuned it to stock incase the dealer automatically did a flash update that may have been called for. I did all of that with nothing but the tool..no internet. When I got back in it I literally re-tuned it right in the parking lot at the dealership and put the tool back in the rear storage of the Jeep and drove off smiling!
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Now we are talking. Any idea if the krawling mode helps with cooling?
Actually with the tune you have full adjustability to when the cooling fans come on..what temperature and in hi or low mode.

When I built up my challenger you typically would use a cooler thermostat to get the engine to run cooler as well...I can then also tell the car to turn the fans on at an even cooler temp and always hold them on hi as well...make sense??
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Ok..now I see where you are coming from.

When you first buy it...You can take it out and plug it in anywhere at any time and return your Jeep to stock


Does that help?
100%

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Just ordered it! Should be here Wednesday next week. Thanks for the push! Not exactly cheap when all is said and done. Hope it impresses to forget about that.
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Just ordered it! Should be here Wednesday next week. Thanks for the push! Not exactly cheap when all is said and done. Hope it impresses to forget about that.
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Does Trinity come w/everything you'd need to upgrade & run, all the cables to connect to the computer, etc? Does it accept standard ball mounts? Will I like it even w/4.10's & not 4.88's? lol
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Does Trinity come w/everything you'd need to upgrade & run, all the cables to connect to the computer, etc? Does it accept standard ball mounts? Will I like it even w/4.10's & not 4.88's? lol

Comes with everything you need including a windshield mount if you want to leave it in the Jeep and use the gages, etc. that it includes.

IMO you will love it..but again it has to be your choice as with anything like this it could void your warranty especially if you leave it tuned and take it to the dealer for an engine issue that they feel they can blame on the tune. I highly recommend it based on my experience but it has to be a decision you are comfortable with.
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Comes with everything you need including a windshield mount if you want to leave it in the Jeep and use the gages, etc. that it includes.

IMO you will love it..but again it has to be your choice as with anything like this it could void your warranty especially if you leave it tuned and take it to the dealer for an engine issue that they feel they can blame on the tune. I highly recommend it based on my experience but it has to be a decision you are comfortable with.
TY. I'm trying to talk myself out of regearing, W/o the shift point adjustability It may not be possible for long.
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Update tonight. After about 870 miles since I loaded the 93 octane tune my mpg has increased about 1.3 mpg!!!!!!
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What about adjusting the speedometer, does this tuner calibrates it for bigger tires?
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Yes it does that as well as handle gear ratio changes like the procal does.
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really annoying thing actually arrived yesterday the $#%# driver decided on his own that how the package was addressed wasn't how UPS works (co. name delivered to a residential address), comes right to the residence, doesn't even attempt deliver, fires an exception into to the computer and drives off. Corrected that last night, supposed to be delivered today, computer shows still in transit. Today is dry and sunny, the next 4 days are snow.
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really annoying thing actually arrived yesterday the $#%# driver decided on his own that how the package was addressed wasn't how UPS works (co. name delivered to a residential address), comes right to the residence, doesn't even attempt deliver, fires an exception into to the computer and drives off. Corrected that last night, supposed to be delivered today, computer shows still in transit. Today is dry and sunny, the next 4 days are snow.
Never fails. I get all charged up cause something is scheduled to arrive and then something like that happens. Pisses me off.
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PosiTrak - keep this thread posted with your experiences. Elarson, any updates, please share as well... Have my '13 on order, which will be my first Jeep with the 3.6L. I've used Hypertech in the past on both Diesels and HEMI's with some well-worth-the-price results, so I'm real curious to see if the trinity is worth the cost of admission. Thanks in advance!
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PosiTrak - keep this thread posted with your experiences. Elarson, any updates, please share as well... Have my '13 on order, which will be my first Jeep with the 3.6L. I've used Hypertech in the past on both Diesels and HEMI's with some well-worth-the-price results, so I'm real curious to see if the trinity is worth the cost of admission. Thanks in advance!
My opinion is simple...I love it. The drivability is much improved, the acceleration/throttle booster is great and my MPG is up about 1.4. Feels like a different Jeep. Would pay for it again in a heartbeat if this one broke.
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WOW !!



holy fark!

Just walked in from a 45 minute test run. Good gawd. Unbelieveable. Totally and utterly what the jeep is missing. Where to begin.

setup is 2012 Rubicon automatic, aFe CAI + aFe catback. Easily now well over 300 hp.

The immediate and most noticeable thing is the torque. Holy cow, where before from 0 flooring it you would spool up the rpm's to giddy up. Now with this, goddman, right off the bat all the way through the power band it pulls and keeps pulling. Similarly at movment in traffic punching it, power is immediate and instant and continues until you let off. Haven't even down a full flooring it is so tight and immediate it feels like I will blow the exhaust off

No question I can break traction and even squeal the tires, this an auto runbicon. The thing launches like a goddamn rocket.

This a 91 tune since I had half a tank of 91 already in. It is unreal it cleans up everything that is wrong right now with the 3.6 high revving rpm. Power is incredible. Shifting is totally improved as well. Drives like a friggin sports car.

Just from that 45 minute spin, totally well worth the money if these things interest you. Difference is night and day without question.

Thing arrived after a nightmare with the delivery dude, very impressed with the packaging, nice clam shell retail packing, quality cables, well made little device. Very professional made and presented.

Updating what a rigmarole. Terrible instructions and software. They could every easily improve that, but once you have it updated and loaded you don't need it anymore I don't think. took me nearly and hour and two tries to get it right. Stupid instruction for the update for 2012 jeep (just informed them how to clean it up and make it make sense to people).

Bit scary if you never done a tune, lot of on/off with the key, rebooting the device, jeep cycling through all the on/offs etc. etc. even warning battery charge is low to tune etc. But fool proof easy commands on the device and once complete, given the green light to proceed and continue on your way. Slight trepidation turning the jeep on the first time.... of course nothing to worry about. Thing fired up as normal nothing noticeable until you hit the road.

Very very impressed and would recommend it without question if you have interest in speed and torque for the jeep. So much so I have been patiently waiting for RIPP to release their numbers, been going on since end of last year, every 45 days they said, still nothing in sight. I think I may have saved myself 6000 dollars with this device plus existing combo CAI and cat back I fear faster than it is now will only lead to trouble. Big trouble.

hattip to Elarson, tuner would not have entered my mind other than for this thread, the tought of tinkering with the brain of the machine for whatever reason gave me more fear than bolting on a SC. But having done it now nothing to worry about and the results are incredible.
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holy fark!

Just walked in from a 45 minute test run. Good gawd. Unbelieveable. Totally and utterly what the jeep is missing. Where to begin.

setup is 2012 Rubicon automatic, aFe CAI + aFe catback. Easily now well over 300 hp.

The immediate and most noticeable thing is the torque. Holy cow, where before from 0 flooring it you would spool up the rpm's to giddy up. Now with this, goddman, right off the bat all the way through the power band it pulls and keeps pulling. Similarly at movment in traffic punching it, power is immediate and instant and continues until you let off. Haven't even down a full flooring it is so tight and immediate it feels like I will blow the exhaust off

No question I can break traction and even squeal the tires, this an auto runbicon. The thing launches like a goddamn rocket.

This a 91 tune since I had half a tank of 91 already in. It is unreal it cleans up everything that is wrong right now with the 3.6 high revving rpm. Power is incredible. Shifting is totally improved as well. Drives like a friggin sports car.

Just from that 45 minute spin, totally well worth the money if these things interest you. Difference is night and day without question.

Thing arrived after a nightmare with the delivery dude, very impressed with the packaging, nice clam shell retail packing, quality cables, well made little device. Very professional made and presented.

Updating what a rigmarole. Terrible instructions and software. They could every easily improve that, but once you have it updated and loaded you don't need it anymore I don't think. took me nearly and hour and two tries to get it right. Stupid instruction for the update for 2012 jeep (just informed them how to clean it up and make it make sense to people).

Bit scary if you never done a tune, lot of on/off with the key, rebooting the device, jeep cycling through all the on/offs etc. etc. even warning battery charge is low to tune etc. But fool proof easy commands on the device and once complete, given the green light to proceed and continue on your way. Slight trepidation turning the jeep on the first time.... of course nothing to worry about. Thing fired up as normal nothing noticeable until you hit the road.

Very very impressed and would recommend it without question if you have interest in speed and torque for the jeep. So much so I have been patiently waiting for RIPP to release their numbers, been going on since end of last year, every 45 days they said, still nothing in sight. I think I may have saved myself 6000 dollars with this device plus existing combo CAI and cat back I fear faster than it is now will only lead to trouble. Big trouble.

hattip to Elarson, tuner would not have entered my mind other than for this thread, the tought of tinkering with the brain of the machine for whatever reason gave me more fear than bolting on a SC. But having done it now nothing to worry about and the results are incredible.
So you like it then? Lol. Guess thats a vote supporting my review!!
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Worth every cent. Just doing some forward thinking now about playing cat and mouse with the dealer. At what stage to put the stock tune back in. Had two services since new. Don't think they fiddle with the computer though on their work order it says reset the oil change indicator.

What your thoughts on that. Other than obvious serious issues that might occur but where might they need to check the computer for regular maintenance.?
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Worth every cent. Just doing some forward thinking now about playing cat and mouse with the dealer. At what stage to put the stock tune back in. Had two services since new. Don't think they fiddle with the computer though on their work order it says reset the oil change indicator.

What your thoughts on that. Other than obvious serious issues that might occur but where might they need to check the computer for regular maintenance.?
Before i take it to the dealer for anything I would return it to stock and here is why. It is part of the normal process for the dealer to check for updated flashes to a vehicles computer when it comes in for anything. In fact the Chrysler system will flag a vin number in the computer if it is due for any kind of update or recall, etc. normally these are just done and you wont even know it unless you notice a small sticker typically applied over the radiator shroud or inside the hood lip.

If its tuned and they do that flash it CAN royally screw things up and you will be up sh$t creek. I had a buddy who took in his tuned Charger. They flashed it and when they started it again the computer failed due to a code conflict issue of some sort. He got to pay to replace it, got to pay for a rental for several days and got pretty embarrassed.
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Even for an LOF? My place its in the main service bay but a separate setup. Not sure I saw a terminal there, but you are right, I can seen them taking control of it even for an oil change, sticking their computer in to suggest an update.

how quick is the switch back? that master code update thing install took forever but seemed like the tune itself was quick. good thing is I had it at the dealer a couple weeks ago for its second service, so no need for another 6 months.

man, no wondere they military grade encrypted this, still not sure why, but what's hidden and when changeable is very very noticeable.

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