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Old 04-24-2013, 05:22 PM   #31
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Are the low beams a lot brighter too? Is the beam pattern different? I am also still looking for a headlight upgrade or will add LED driving lights, I guess.
The low beams gives you a great field of vision. A huge improvement over stock. The high beams light up the whole street and beyond!

Here is a pic I found on a different Jeep forum that helped me decide on the Truck-Lite Phase 7 headlights.


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Must look into these. Install was just 15 minutes? No extra harness or slicing? The added light would be such a welcome improvement for me when in remote areas.

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Old 04-24-2013, 05:39 PM   #33
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The truck lites do have a slight flicker at idle. But a harness removes that. I love mine. I can deal with the flicker it's not a big deal.
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So... I had something interesting pointed out to me before I ordered these. The lights are obviously an improvement. However quite a bit of the dramatic part of those photos is foreground lighting. That lighting is decieving because it is not actually beneficial when driving at speed. The light that is right in front of the jeep is "too late" when you are driving and that much light up front can actually be distracting to your vision further out where you should be looking. Again, I am not saying that the trucklites are not superior, but I think the really dramatic part of those photos may be misleading. After everything shook out and the most debate on my part on any mod, I ended up going with projectors. They have not arrived yet, but when they do I will post some pics of those. I would like to do something like the above, but I think I am too lazy...
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It just takes 15 minutes to install?
Probably less than 15 but my wife kept texting me.
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Old 04-24-2013, 07:43 PM   #36
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I have trim rings for my headlights, I'm wondering how it would affect these lights since they are split in half. Logan Laboratories 100010 - Headlight Eyebrow Trim Rings in Black for 07-13 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK - Quadratec
I was wondering the same thing. Don't have the trim yet but would like some.
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Old 04-24-2013, 08:13 PM   #37
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So... I had something interesting pointed out to me before I ordered these. The lights are obviously an improvement. However quite a bit of the dramatic part of those photos is foreground lighting. That lighting is decieving because it is not actually beneficial when driving at speed. The light that is right in front of the jeep is "too late" when you are driving and that much light up front can actually be distracting to your vision further out where you should be looking. Again, I am not saying that the trucklites are not superior, but I think the really dramatic part of those photos may be misleading. After everything shook out and the most debate on my part on any mod, I ended up going with projectors. They have not arrived yet, but when they do I will post some pics of those. I would like to do something like the above, but I think I am too lazy...
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What harness are you talking about adding to stop flicker?
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I was wondering the same thing. Don't have the trim yet but would like some.
Did you use a trim on yours or these are simple plug and play?
Did you use a harness? I'm guessing not due to the 15mins...LOL
But I could be wrong
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What harness are you talking about adding to stop flicker?
I too wanna know this
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The harness should come with the lights
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:59 PM   #42
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The harness should come with the lights
So why does it flicker still after install? Unless guys aren't installing it too
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U guys should check out the official jk lighting thread. Lots of info. Talks about these lights and others and the harness and why it's needed.
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With the complaints of flickering on these I am surprised more people are not going with the HID projector light option. Pricing is pretty similar i think.
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With the complaints of flickering on these I am surprised more people are not going with the HID projector light option. Pricing is pretty similar i think.
I was considering this too. But the only issue which may not be an issue is it looks 'bug eyed'

I'm sure the more I looks at it the more ill like it.
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Both Truck-Lite and JW Speaker LED Headlights will have a slight flicker at idle. The flickering is barely noticeable on both IMO. And when people speak of flicker its not a strobing effect or anything like that...its very slight and not noticeable unless you really stare at it at a wall. The LED headlights itself when looking at them directly do not seem to flicker.

If the slight flicker does bother anyone...they do make the TLG LED Headlight Harness that fixes that issue on both Truck-Lite and JW Speaker.

A big factor for me when I was deciding on headlight options were the fact that both Truck-Lite and JW Speaker are DOT approved.
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I was considering this too. But the only issue which may not be an issue is it looks 'bug eyed'

I'm sure the more I looks at it the more ill like it.
Noticed that your in Ontario, I dont know how cold it gets there, but I think LED's will not work for me since I live in Alaska. Sub zero degree temps with blizzard means the LED probably won't be enough heat to clear the heads. I may go projectors as well or just run the h13 with HID in stock housings
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Anyone here installed the harness from Susquehanna to fix the flicker? Mine just arrived and if I'm reading the instructions correctly, since I don't have day time running lamps I only need to hook thinks up to the battery and the headlights; I don't need to go thru the firewall to hook up the rest.

Is that correct?
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Noticed that your in Ontario, I dont know how cold it gets there, but I think LED's will not work for me since I live in Alaska. Sub zero degree temps with blizzard means the LED probably won't be enough heat to clear the heads. I may go projectors as well or just run the h13 with HID in stock housings
Yup. In Toronto. But it doesn't get as cold as it gets in Alaska. That I know for sure
I'm sure ill be ok. But I do like the custom projector aspect.
I should show my customer projector heads and fogs on my 12 Ram. Both have LED Halos
Love them and always get compliments
May attempt the same with the JKUR
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Old 04-25-2013, 11:04 AM   #50
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It's too bad that these lights are not LED low beam with a combo halogen/led high beam. That would def eliminate any fears of snow build up etc.
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Old 04-25-2013, 11:40 AM   #51
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anti flicker harnesses:

TLG`s - Jeep Wrangler JK Anti-Flicker Warning Canceller Plug and Play Wire Harness Adapters for LED Headlights

Susquehana Motor Sports - HL28130J (no DayLight Running lights):

or if you have Daylight running lights - HL28130D

Susquehanna MotorSports - Auto Performance Product

Susquehanna uses relays and runs lights directly off the battery. TLG`s are inline.

The "harness" that comes with the lights are just adopters for the lights from H13 to H4, not anti-flicker.
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Hey guys a forum member recommended these to me so I figured I would post it here as another option.

I've always been an HID guy and considering the pricing is the same once you add the anti flicker harness to the price of the LEDs I think it becomes a no brainer.

HIDprojectors DIY Bi-Xenon kit - starting at $255 - JKowners.com : Jeep Wrangler JK Forum
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Hey guys a forum member recommended these to me so I figured I would post it here as another option.

I've always been an HID guy and considering the pricing is the same once you add the anti flicker harness to the price of the LEDs I think it becomes a no brainer.

HIDprojectors DIY Bi-Xenon kit - starting at $255 - JKowners.com : Jeep Wrangler JK Forum
Thanks for this. Will look further into this later
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The biggest factor on my decision to purchase Truck-Lite or JW Speaker was that they both are DOT approved.

I could be wrong but I have not seen any aftermarket HID or Projector HID headlights that are DOT approved.
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The biggest factor on my decision to purchase Truck-Lite or JW Speaker was that they both are DOT approved.

I could be wrong but I have not seen any aftermarket HID or Projector HID headlights that are DOT approved.
Is original housing used in retrofits?
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Cree actually is the LED type, but I am interested in who makes the LED bulb you bought as well.
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I went on eBay and there is a metric ass-load of these "Cree" LED fogs for sale, ranging from .99 cents to over $60, however they all look the same (just like the ones the OP has pictured), minus the mounting options. Pretty much all of them are from China so I would advise caution to any one who installs these! With the sensitive electrical system in our Jeeps, I don't know if I would want to chance it. By the way, what is the mount style of the fogs? Is it a standard 2006 or H4? Thanks!
Cree is a company who designs and manufactures the LED chip. Unless the seller is lying, the LED chip has to be made by Cree, other components are certainly be made by others. Cree do have production facilities in China now, just like most companies. Then there are Cree XPE, XRE, Q5, C6... all different coding, the cost, brightness and application varies. Without those, you can't really tell which Cree they're using.

I have a few flashlights using Cree LED from China, at a fraction of cost than branded flashlight in US, the brightest I have is a 2 18650 battery XM-L T6 for $20. They all work well and impressed everyone they have seen.

I'm considering to replace the head light, though the LED options are still too expensive.
I'm wondering if there is any regulation on fog light? I do want to keep my lights legit.
Will it blind other drivers if putting an super bright LED in a regular housing, even it sits low?
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Not to high jack is there a cheaper led headlight option?
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Not to high jack is there a cheaper led headlight option?
Not that I'm aware of. The only other plug and play LED I'm aware of is almost double the cost.
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I live in Montana and we have freezing weather and snow and just the other day drove home in a snow storm and had no issues seeing with my truck lites. Probably don't have as much snow as they do in alaska but close I bet.
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I put these on and I have never lifted the hood of any vehicle before. There's a great tutorial from teraflex on YouTube that explains the install.

It took me about an hr, but I was moving very slowly. I didn't want to drop one of the Torx screws and then have to look for it all over the garage floor. Also, trying to hold the light while putting in the screw can be a bit awkward, especially on the passenger side, a task best suited to lefties.

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