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Old 06-02-2013, 08:19 PM   #1
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TruckU on Speed - Wrangler JK Build /Jeep Beach

Just wanted to let everyone know that TruckU on the Speed Channel is doing a JK Build and took it to Jeep Beach 2013. Here are the episodes below to set your DVR's:

Truck U Episode # 908 – TruckUbicon | TruckU


Truck U Jeep Beach Episode 1:
SAT 6/1/13 @ 8:00am
MON 6/3/13 @ 4:30pm
FRI 6/7/13 @ 10:30am
SUN 6/9/13 @ 8:00am
SAT 6/22/13 @ 8:00am
MON 6/24/13 @ 4:30pm
FRI 6/28/13 @ 10:30am


Truck U Jeep Beach Episode 2:
SAT 6/8/13 @ 8:00am
SUN 6/9/13 @ 8:30am
MON 6/10/13 @ 4:30pm
FRI 6/14/13 @ 10:30am
SAT 6/29/13 @ 7:30am
SUN 6/30/13 @ 8:30am
FRI 7/1/13 @ 10:30am

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Thanks for the tip. Hard to find Jeep specific episodes because they don't always put the full show descriptions.
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^yeah it doesn't state on my att uverse but I just set it on my dvr right now
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^yeah it doesn't state on my att uverse but I just set it on my dvr right now
x2 for dish network, but the DVR is set.
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Thanks for the heads-up... Part 1 just has a generic description about the show, Part 2 is listed as an older episode entitled Roush Truck.
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Watching this now on dvr. Anyone else catch it?
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Watching this now on dvr. Anyone else catch it?
Yeah I played it when I got off work. Not bad, but I would have tried to run a lower-height lift and still fit 37s. Of course, the bolt-on shows are all about who will sponsor you. (Like how they got axels and swapped stock internals? Maybe they couldn't line up sponsors for a taller ring and pinion or shafts.....)

I think I like the show that has the dude with spiky hair (the one the gal used to be on). They were always fabbing up stuff and going big on swaps :-) IS that one still on. (I'll remember the name of it in a few seconds... lol)
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Yeah I played it when I got off work. Not bad, but I would have tried to run a lower-height lift and still fit 37s. Of course, the bolt-on shows are all about who will sponsor you. (Like how they got axels and swapped stock internals? Maybe they couldn't line up sponsors for a taller ring and pinion or shafts.....)

I think I like the show that has the dude with spiky hair (the one the gal used to be on). They were always fabbing up stuff and going big on swaps :-) IS that one still on. (I'll remember the name of it in a few seconds... lol)
I know the show you're talking about. Now she's on all girls garage. Both he and her have very annoying voices. LOL



explain the brake upgrade to me....how do you get better braking just by adding bigger rotors. That makes no sense to me.
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On the brakes, not much. Maybe cooler due to more surface area. No new calipers, but new hoses, maybe better pads too? Thought that and the CAI and exhaust were kind of marginal.

That show was 4x4 extreme. Found some episodes on my old DVR drive.

Bolt on shows are cool but are an infomercial for vendors. I like em anyway.
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On the brakes, not much. Maybe cooler due to more surface area. No new calipers, but new hoses, maybe better pads too? Thought that and the CAI and exhaust were kind of marginal.

That show was 4x4 extreme. Found some episodes on my old DVR drive.

Bolt on shows are cool but are an infomercial for vendors. I like em anyway.
It was just bigger rotors and new braided cable. He actually said "This will give you more braking force." I was like "WTF"?

Agreed. They always make the installs look so easy, skipping the hard parts. I understand its TV, so no biggie. It's still educational.
But yes, when half the show is a commercial for other vendors, that blows. They didn't used to be this bad.

I used to DVR the whole "power block" thing, setting my DVR to record only new shows. But as the shows don't list as repeat or new, my DVR would fill up when they would run back to back episodes on a Sunday, so I had to turn it off.
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A bigger brake rotor would likely mean you'd have a bigger radius. You'd have a little better leverage to stop the axle from spinning. Another way to think about it is by thinking about the circumference of the circle scribed by the brake pads. Bigger rotors with a bigger circle means that the pad can create more friction for every given spin of the axle.

Does that make sense?
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A bigger brake rotor would likely mean you'd have a bigger radius. You'd have a little better leverage to stop the axle from spinning. Another way to think about it is by thinking about the circumference of the circle scribed by the brake pads. Bigger rotors with a bigger circle means that the pad can create more friction for every given spin of the axle.

Does that make sense?
But the calipers didn't change. So the radius point where the pads sit is unchanged.

Not trying to be stubborn, just trying to understand.
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But the calipers didn't change. So the radius point where the pads sit is unchanged.

Not trying to be stubborn, just trying to understand.
What you're saying makes total sense... The total area of rotor which is acted on by the pads is known as swept area. Putting that in google will open up a ton of info.

They didn't gain much swept area by running bigger rotors with the same pads, so that was kind of half-assed. That is the main reason you'd put larger rotors on.

I guess the braided lines could swell less under extreme braking and you'd technically have more braking force, but that would probably be in a panic stop type situation.
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It doesn't gain much, but because you have bigger rotors, the circumference of the swept circle is bigger, so for ever given spin of the axle, the pad is acting on more rotor surface than it would on a smaller rotor.

I'm not a mechanic or a physicist, but it my head, it seems to make sense that increasing the size of the rotors, you'd get some (not sure how much) better braking performance. They also most likely wouldn't get as hot, which should help too
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On the brakes, not much. Maybe cooler due to more surface area. No new calipers, but new hoses, maybe better pads too? Thought that and the CAI and exhaust were kind of marginal.

That show was 4x4 extreme. Found some episodes on my old DVR drive.

Bolt on shows are cool but are an infomercial for vendors. I like em anyway.
I liked how this show used a small vendor like Poison Spyder which I have the same front bumper and really like their stuff. At least it wasn't all about garbage products from 4WP.
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Stacy David formally of "Trucks" on Spike TV and now on Gearz on Speed TV did a build on a JKU. If you go to his website, you can (after a lot of looking) find the show. It's in segments like on TV, minus the comercials.
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It doesn't gain much, but because you have bigger rotors, the circumference of the swept circle is bigger, so for ever given spin of the axle, the pad is acting on more rotor surface than it would on a smaller rotor.

I'm not a mechanic or a physicist, but it my head, it seems to make sense that increasing the size of the rotors, you'd get some (not sure how much) better braking performance. They also most likely wouldn't get as hot, which should help too
Unless the position of the pad is changed to contact the new rotor more toward the outer portion of the new larger rotor there is no change in braking force. The force is dependent on the position of the pad on the rotor. If they wanted to take advantage of the larger rotor and it's potentially greater braking, they would have to change the calipers to position the pads more toward the outer edge of the rotor. Another (simpler) way to increase braking force would be go to softer pads. Cheaper, too.
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Glad I could stir up a conversation on braking. LOL

Here's another point: if the larger rotor were heavier, hence increasing the rolling mass, wouldn't this technically make braking worse without a caliper upgrade?
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Yeah I played it when I got off work. Not bad, but I would have tried to run a lower-height lift and still fit 37s. Of course, the bolt-on shows are all about who will sponsor you. (Like how they got axels and swapped stock internals? Maybe they couldn't line up sponsors for a taller ring and pinion or shafts.....)

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Extreme 4x4 is still on doing good stuff!
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Glad I could stir up a conversation on braking. LOL

Here's another point: if the larger rotor were heavier, hence increasing the rolling mass, wouldn't this technically make braking worse without a caliper upgrade?

I don't know for sure. Now that someone mentioned it upthread, the relocation bracket for the stock caliper moves it further out to the proper position of a larger rotor.

So a person who went to college can tell me how that works, but it make sense. Maybe like a longer cheater pipe on a breaker bar. The move the clamping force further out on a longer (distance to center of hub) rotor?
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I don't know for sure. Now that someone mentioned it upthread, the relocation bracket for the stock caliper moves it further out to the proper position of a larger rotor.

So a person who went to college can tell me how that works, but it make sense. Maybe like a longer cheater pip on a breaker bar. The move the clamping force further out on a longer (distance to center of hub) rotor?
Ah. Well they didn't say they relocated the caliper but I guess that would make sense. As the rotor was larger I'd assume a larger diameter so in turn the caliper would have to be relocated. Guess that didn't occur to me.
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Xtreme 4x4 is still on. He's building a TJ right now. You can watch full episodes plus the other shows on powerblocktv.com
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Man, I finally have time to watch it. I'm so jealous right now. I use to have my dsm's (mitsu eclipse) upgraded by rre and now they make parts for Jks. I should visit them one of these days since I'm local.
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2nd part of series airing tomorrow morning "Jeep Beach" 2013

Truck U Jeep Beach Episode 2:
SAT 6/8/13 @ 8:00am
SUN 6/9/13 @ 8:30am
MON 6/10/13 @ 4:30pm
FRI 6/14/13 @ 10:30am
SAT 6/29/13 @ 7:30am
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