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Old 09-23-2011, 08:01 PM   #1
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true or false

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Old 09-23-2011, 08:28 PM   #2
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True.. I've seen 2014-2015 tossed around.

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true they are building the J8 body kit as a feeler for the market for a true Jeep pick up to replace the Dakota
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Any ideas how much will be cost?
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true they are building the J8 body kit as a feeler for the market for a true Jeep pick up to replace the Dakota
That statement scares the crap out of me. If there is a Jeep truck it very well may be a rebadged Dakota instead of a replacement for it. I want a truck based on the Wrangler, not a Jeep based on a Dakota.
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the Dakota is dead no plans from dodge or mitsue to build a new one that I'm aware of. all indications are it will by JK based with a possible 4.7V8
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That doesn't mean that can't take what they've got and stick a few Jeep styling cues on it, rebadge it and sell it. If it says Jeep it will sell regardless of what's inside the wrapper.
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Old 09-23-2011, 09:44 PM   #8
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I've been seeing very similar 'Gladiator' photos for years.

The only good thing about the glacial speed at building a real factory version, is currently I'm so enthused about my JK that I have no need or interest in such a beastie.

I've got a full size Ram 2500 Hemi for my 'bigger power' needs.
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This came up in another forum...and I still don't get it.
Unless it is a rebadged Dakota....or has massive rear overhang, I would think that the JKU frame would be too short to have a decent bed...thus defeating the purpose.
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That statement scares the crap out of me. If there is a Jeep truck it very well may be a rebadged Dakota instead of a replacement for it. I want a truck based on the Wrangler, not a Jeep based on a Dakota.
While it looks cool I might be missing something. Typically people who buy PU trucks do so for hauling and towing. The tow ratings of the Wrangler and Wrangler Unlimited are not all that great. I'd hope if they do decide to sell the Wrangler PU, they up the tow ratings, etc.
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If it's not a Jeep from the ground up, they can keep it. I owned a Dakota - crap! After six months of issues, I parked it at the dealer and told them they could use it as a boat anchor. There is a J8 kit that can be had, if you're so inclined, but I would agree with demarpaint - PU use is different - hauling loads and towing are the main reasons for their use. Jeep hauls you over anything, and usually only tows other vehicles out of situations that the Jeep would not normally get stuck in. It's not a bad looking vehicle, but I'd be very wary of what's under that skin if these all-of-a-sudden showed up en masse at dealers.
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False. That concept has been around for a while. At one point they were saying 2012. The delay was centered mostly around the Dakota. They couldn't make up their minds what to do with the Dakota amidst fear that a Jeep pick up would kill it.

The latest information I have read is that they will wait until the Wrangler refresh in '15 or '16.
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i remember an old willys truck used to sit up in back of my grandmothers house long, long ago. it was't running and was along side the skid road going back up into the woods. i was mabe barely a teen, which would place it around 1961, but i remeber knocking around in it and being totally taken by it way back then. They never got it running again and time and mother nature pretty much reclaimed it. Too bad, it never got going again. I'd love to see jeep put a truck on the market.
I had pick-ups before my jeeps (Nissan, Chevy Dodge), mostly to haul light loads like trash to the dump...firewood, furnature and sometimes heavy haul, but I think there would be a good market for a Gladiator truck.
Would like them to wait a couple of years though like "daggo" suggests they might.....just bough my 2012 Rubi. I'd hate to have to trade it right away.

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I can wait.....but a P/U that is a 'true' Jeep would sell IMHO. I know I'd take one in Sahara Tan with black trim like my '11, JK Sport "S". YUM YUM.......That is a sweet looking truck.
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While it looks cool I might be missing something. Typically people who buy PU trucks do so for hauling and towing. The tow ratings of the Wrangler and Wrangler Unlimited are not all that great. I'd hope if they do decide to sell the Wrangler PU, they up the tow ratings, etc.
20 years ago I would agree with that. The typical PU buyer these days doesn't tow or haul anything that isn't manageable by the average mid-size sedan or minivan. Trucks aren't work vehicles like they used to be. They are status symbols.
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I'll second that oil well. It is bad here in WV. It is a show of status to drive around in your F350 and I know for a fact that most of these people never tow/haul a thing in their carpet lined beds. To each their own. They probably don't swap gears in their trucks with under 1000 miles on them like I did in my JK. I'm sure they would think that I am just as crazy as I think they are.
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That Gladiator is ugly. Only Jeep Pickup i would touch would be a nukizer.

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20 years ago I would agree with that. The typical PU buyer these days doesn't tow or haul anything that isn't manageable by the average mid-size sedan or minivan. Trucks aren't work vehicles like they used to be. They are status symbols.
True to a point. Let me put it another way then, the Wrangler PU should at least be able to tow as much as a Liberty then, which is 5,000 lbs IIRC. Hopefully they'll address that if this vehicle comes to be. JMO
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True to a point. Let me put it another way then, the Wrangler PU should at least be able to tow as much as a Liberty then, which is 5,000 lbs IIRC. Hopefully they'll address that if this vehicle comes to be. JMO
I agree it needs to have usable towing capacity. If we accept that as fact and put ourselves in Chrysler's shoes, what would we do?

Option 1: Reinvent the wheel at a cost of millions of dollars in develoment work. Start from scratch, or nearly so, to have a pure Jeep truck that meets the needs of the enthusiast and the status buyer although it will be priced beyond the means of many who would be buyers at a lower price point.

Option 2: Take a chassis that is already in use (Dakota) and rebody at minimal cost. It already has the towing and hauling capacity that a Jeep truck buyer would be looking for, so there is no need to spend the money on a clean sheet design. You can sell this one cheaper and still make more money because you saved so much up front. You will still sell 95% of the units that you would have with a clean sheet design.

I just find it hard to believe that they will start from scratch when they've got something on the shelf that they can reshape and put new stickers on and call it good.
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I'm afraid that I would enjoy lookimng atem, but I'd never buy one

Many years ago I had 3 seperate (highly modified) Dodge Ramchargers/w the 440 cuin and A727 auto and they were a 1/2 ton pickup, with removable top -

This is all the reason I got the JKU--

I wouldn't appreciate a new jeep pickup (2 passenger)/w solid top !!

Looks kewl, but thats all

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I agree it needs to have usable towing capacity. If we accept that as fact and put ourselves in Chrysler's shoes, what would we do?

Option 1: Reinvent the wheel at a cost of millions of dollars in develoment work. Start from scratch, or nearly so, to have a pure Jeep truck that meets the needs of the enthusiast and the status buyer although it will be priced beyond the means of many who would be buyers at a lower price point.

Option 2: Take a chassis that is already in use (Dakota) and rebody at minimal cost. It already has the towing and hauling capacity that a Jeep truck buyer would be looking for, so there is no need to spend the money on a clean sheet design. You can sell this one cheaper and still make more money because you saved so much up front. You will still sell 95% of the units that you would have with a clean sheet design.

I just find it hard to believe that they will start from scratch when they've got something on the shelf that they can reshape and put new stickers on and call it good.
I see choice 2 as the only smart option, and it was almost exactly along the lines that I was thinking.

I still can't understand why my 3.7L 4 speed AT Liberty has a higher tow capacity than a JKU? What were they thinking? I bet if they upped the tow rating on the JKU they'd sell even more.

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