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Old 04-11-2012, 12:25 PM   #61
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I am wondering if anyone can tell me the difference between the Security Deck Enclosure (quadratec price: $456.99) and the Tailgate Security Enclosure (quadratec price: $196.99). They look to be functionally similar, and can't see the $250 difference between the two. I know I will want one of them, just not sure which one I will need, for certain.
I believe - don't quote me on this - the expensive one is the entire back area, which involves removing the seat, while the cheaper one is the small area behind the back seat. Maybe.

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I believe - don't quote me on this - the expensive one is the entire back area, which involves removing the seat, while the cheaper one is the small area behind the back seat. Maybe.
That is the way I saw it. The cheaper is to cover the area behind the second row of 2drs. and the Later is to cover the area being the first row of 2drs or second row of 4drs.

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There's not enough room to fit an ARB under this as opposed to on top of it - is there?
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I am wondering if anyone can tell me the difference between the Security Deck Enclosure (quadratec price: $456.99) and the Tailgate Security Enclosure (quadratec price: $196.99). They look to be functionally similar, and can't see the $250 difference between the two. I know I will want one of them, just not sure which one I will need, for certain.

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I finally got my deck and installed it in my 2012 2 dr jk. While the materials are solid and everything fits, I'm very disappointed that the whole thing is held to the body by 2 (two) bolts which can easily be removed even with the rear shut and locked.

Tomorrow I'll look for some security bolts to replace the generic ones that came with the deck. For $450 I expected better. I really liked the one I had in my 08 jku, but this one has immediately put me off.

Here is a top view of one of the two bolts that holds the entire thing on.


This is from inside looking out.

Seriously, anyone with a 1/2 inch wrench could take the whole thing off and probably lift it up. I havent tried it cuz I dont want to scratch stuff up, but I'm betting I could remove those two bolts and steal the whole deck with the trunk locked. Im torn between just finding some security bolts or returning the whole thing. I will say that there are two places on each side where you can drill into the body and secure it with two more bolts, but it's much the same.
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I just put mine on last night as well. Mine used two bolts on each side through the predrilled holes on each end in your picture. Did you have to drill your own hole?

I have to admit I'm a bit concerned about how secure this thing is as well. When my tailgate is closed, I can still push the deck forward enough to get my hand between the tailgate and deck and at the very least start pulling/bending the deck up.

Doesn't seem very secure to me at all. Maybe I did something wrong, but I followed the directions exactly.
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Guys thanks for pointing out these flaws. I was dead set on one of these for my 2012. But this is rediculous. Anything you do to make it harder for a thief to remove (spot weld the bolts, etc) is going to make it a total pain every time you want to take it out and carry something large.

The whole thing now seems useless to me. You saved me about $500.
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Quick question, and possiblye a stupid one. I just received my Tuffy rear deck enclosure a few days ago and have not had time to even open it yet. Can the tops be changed from hardtop to soft top without disturbing or having to undo anything from the Tuffy enclosure?

The reason I am asking is I would like to install the enclosure tonight if I have time but I am also expecting my TrekTop NX any day now. I don't want to install it tonight and then have to remove parts or mess with it when the soft top shows up. If there is anything that has to be undone I will just wait until my TrekTop shows up and do them both at the same time.

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Quick question, and possiblye a stupid one. I just received my Tuffy rear deck enclosure a few days ago and have not had time to even open it yet. Can the tops be changed from hardtop to soft top without disturbing or having to undo anything from the Tuffy enclosure?

The reason I am asking is I would like to install the enclosure tonight if I have time but I am also expecting my TrekTop NX any day now. I don't want to install it tonight and then have to remove parts or mess with it when the soft top shows up. If there is anything that has to be undone I will just wait until my TrekTop shows up and do them both at the same time.

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I would wait, and install the Tuffy after you do the TrekTop. I'm not sure how the TrekTop attaches to the tailgate bar (or if it even uses the stock one).

I have an aftermarket Off Road Heroes top that comes with it's own tailgate bar, which I can attach to the rear window and then install with the Tuffy lid still in place. But when I had my OE soft top on (with the OE tailgate bar), I had to remove the Tuffy lid to take off the rear window.

I don't have a hard top, so I can't help you there.
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I just received my Tuffy rear deck enclosure a few days ago and have not had time to even open it yet.
Also, as the posts above yours indicate, you can expect to have to make a few minor modifications to the Tuffy deck to make it more secure. Pretty sure I already mentioned the allen bolts in the lid to you.

The 1/2" bolts that attach the frame to the tub are another area you may need to mess with, especially in order to install/remove the hard top.
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I would wait, and install the Tuffy after you do the TrekTop. I'm not sure how the TrekTop attaches to the tailgate bar (or if it even uses the stock one).

I have an aftermarket Off Road Heroes top that comes with it's own tailgate bar, which I can attach to the rear window and then install with the Tuffy lid still in place. But when I had my OE soft top on (with the OE tailgate bar), I had to remove the Tuffy lid to take off the rear window.

I don't have a hard top, so I can't help you there.
Thanks. I guess I will wait until my TrekTop shows up to install the deck enclosure. I am anxious to install it but I don't want to get in a hurry and take one step forward and have to take three back.

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Thanks. I guess I will wait until my TrekTop shows up to install the deck enclosure. I am anxious to install it but I don't want to get in a hurry and take one step forward and have to take three back.

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You could install everything, then just remove the lid. The lid and the back plate that runs parallel to your back seat come out very easily...it's about a 5 minute process.

That would at least give you an idea of what (if anything) you'll need to do with the bolts that mount the Tuffy frame to the tub to simplify installing/removing the hard top.

The only thing on the Tuffy that MIGHT interfere with installing the TrekTop would be the lid itself, where it slides under the tailgate bar and snugs up against the tailgate.

And you can remove the lid itself in less than a minute.

It took a little trial-and-error to figure out the most efficient way for me to remove/install my soft top rear window with the Tuffy box in place.

Obviously, I'm kinda re-thinking my previous answer to wait until after you install the TrekTop. Mainly because I'm not sure how the TrekTop installs.

Man, I hate waffling.
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Got mine the other day and want to install it this weekend. I am a little concerned now with how secure it really is. I also have a hard top but am not too concerned about it on with the HT cause I plan to take it out when the HT is on for the winter. This will be for topless/soft top use only.

KBwolf do you have any pics of where you did the spot welds? I may do this too.
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I've decided to keep my deck, but am still a bit disappointed.

For everyone worried about spot welding and later removal, if you spot welded every bolt except the two that bolt the whole thing to the tub, you will still be able to remove all the parts. The metal pieces are well done and solid.

The model made for 07-10 has some points on the inside that bolt to the tub, making it much more secure. I was VERY happy with that one but it's traded in now. This one, not so much. I think the weak points are the allen wrench bolts on the deck portion which can be spot welded without affecting its function or normal removal. The other weak point is the two bolts to the tub.

I ran around town a bit today looking for some kind of security bolts to swap out with the 'steal me' bolts they shipped with the product. No one seems to carry them. Some of the guys I spoke with said the bolts exist but you have to order them in bulk...

So.... I'm just going to swap out those two bolts with a Torx bolt for now and later on if I decide I'll probably never remove the side devices I'll just drill out the torx part of the bolt. Also, I'll probably get a piece of steel in a rectangular shape and drill and tap it to accept the bolt and use that as a nut underneath. That way, no one could just reach under it and unscrew it.

As with any security deterrent, it's not gonna stop a pro, but hopefully it will make the less intelligent or less motivated move along.
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Got mine the other day and want to install it this weekend. I am a little concerned now with how secure it really is. I also have a hard top but am not too concerned about it on with the HT cause I plan to take it out when the HT is on for the winter. This will be for topless/soft top use only.

KBwolf do you have any pics of where you did the spot welds? I may do this too.
Sorry dude, I'm on the road for the next week, so can't take photos for you.

You can either spot-weld the allen screws to the Tuffy box lid, or use red Loctite on em. Either way will prevent anyone from removing the screws, but won't affect your ability to remove/install the Tuffy lid when you want.
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Sorry dude, I'm on the road for the next week, so can't take photos for you.

You can either spot-weld the allen screws to the Tuffy box lid, or use red Loctite on em. Either way will prevent anyone from removing the screws, but won't affect your ability to remove/install the Tuffy lid when you want.
K, thanks. The Loctite is a good idea too. Thanks again.
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I finally got my deck and installed it in my 2012 2 dr jk. While the materials are solid and everything fits, I'm very disappointed that the whole thing is held to the body by 2 (two) bolts which can easily be removed even with the rear shut and locked.

Tomorrow I'll look for some security bolts to replace the generic ones that came with the deck. For $450 I expected better. I really liked the one I had in my 08 jku, but this one has immediately put me off.

Here is a top view of one of the two bolts that holds the entire thing on.


This is from inside looking out.

Seriously, anyone with a 1/2 inch wrench could take the whole thing off and probably lift it up. I havent tried it cuz I dont want to scratch stuff up, but I'm betting I could remove those two bolts and steal the whole deck with the trunk locked. Im torn between just finding some security bolts or returning the whole thing. I will say that there are two places on each side where you can drill into the body and secure it with two more bolts, but it's much the same.
This is odd to me, as someone else pointed out. I just installed mine using 2 (on each side) of the hardtop torx bolts into the hardtop holes. Those torx are certainly more secure than a half inch bolt like you've pointed oit. I dont even think i see the hardtop holes on your jeep... somethings fishy with your setup.

I can take pics of mine later if you want, to help explain.
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The mounting holes that you use are different between the 2dr and 4dr. That's probably why his setup looks fishy to you. The 2dr uses a single bolt through the middle of the bracket rather than placing one at each end of the bracket
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This thread has bee quiet for a month, but I have two questions about these things:

1. I want to put my dogs in the back of the Jeep. Not all the time- maybe like once every three months. I understand I can remove the top deck, but is there any sharp, angular metal after removing it that would endanger a dog riding back there?

2. How much does the top deck weigh? I'm wondering if my wife could remove it on her own...

Also, any more reports on the security/functionality?
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This thread has bee quiet for a month, but I have two questions about these things:

1. I want to put my dogs in the back of the Jeep. Not all the time- maybe like once every three months. I understand I can remove the top deck, but is there any sharp, angular metal after removing it that would endanger a dog riding back there?

2. How much does the top deck weigh? I'm wondering if my wife could remove it on her own...

Also, any more reports on the security/functionality?
There kind of is a corner created by the filler bracket that is exposed when the lid is off. That said, I wouldn't hesitate to put my dog back there, and you could throw a towel or something over it as its pretty small. Really the other mounting pieces that are exposed are pretty well rounded I think.

Top deck is 10-15 lbs I would say. It is more awkward to get it out then heavy as you have to angle it past the roll bars.

Overall I like it now after having it for a month or so. Having a place that's mostly secure when I'm not in it, and from the wind when I'm driving topless is great. It isn't completely sealed right against the back door on either side of the lid; not sure if that's my fault or not yet as I haven't looked into it further. Not enough to get an arm in, but enough for water to get in. Hope this helps.
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I added a metal plate to cover up the removal screws underneath.
And used the hard top HEX bolts for security reason that hopefully most thieves don't carry a HEX T-40 socket in their thievery tool bag.
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There kind of is a corner created by the filler bracket that is exposed when the lid is off. That said, I wouldn't hesitate to put my dog back there, and you could throw a towel or something over it as its pretty small. Really the other mounting pieces that are exposed are pretty well rounded I think.

Top deck is 10-15 lbs I would say. It is more awkward to get it out then heavy as you have to angle it past the roll bars.

Overall I like it now after having it for a month or so. Having a place that's mostly secure when I'm not in it, and from the wind when I'm driving topless is great. It isn't completely sealed right against the back door on either side of the lid; not sure if that's my fault or not yet as I haven't looked into it further. Not enough to get an arm in, but enough for water to get in. Hope this helps.
Great! Thanks for getting back to me! 10-15 pounds sounds manageable- I was imagining that deck being like 50 pounds, which would be a pain the butt for my wife AND myself! I think I'll look into getting one of these...
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Can anybody comment on the seal between the bestop trektop NX tailgate bar and the tuffy security deck top? Pictures would be great. I have the trektop NX already on my JKU ('11) and the tuffy deck is being shipped, but before I order the OEM / Mopar tailgate bar, I just wanted to get some opinions on what I have currently.

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Also, if anybody is looking to get one of these, they're 20% off at Tonneau Covers, Lift Kits, Winches, Leveling Kits, Tires, Wheels & Tonneau Cover Truck Parts by 4 Wheel Parts right now. Plus free shipping.
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Also, if anybody is looking to get one of these, they're 20% off at Tonneau Covers, Lift Kits, Winches, Leveling Kits, Tires, Wheels & Tonneau Cover Truck Parts by 4 Wheel Parts right now. Plus free shipping.
FYI, I just put the '11-'12 one in my cart to double check and it's only about 10% off.
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FYI, I just put the '11-'12 one in my cart to double check and it's only about 10% off.
Right you are. I looked at the advertisement and just assumed it would be $20. More like 9%. Still, 45 bucks off, not bad.
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Plus it is on back order for at least a week.
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I think 10% is the best you will find on this. That said, it is ~$45 off and a good deal. Got mine from 4 Wheel Parts a couple months ago when they had 10% off. They got it in the next day and I picked it up.
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As I drove thru the rain today without installing my windows and got water all over the Tuffy lid, I decided I want to take some steps to prevent it from scratches and rust. I'm not willing to pay $80 for the diamond plated vinyl that Tuffy sells for it so I'm considering bedlining it.

Anyone thought of this, done it, or have a reason why it's a bad idea?

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