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Old 08-28-2012, 01:23 PM   #91
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Where ? Thats awesome.

I called valley and he did not even know what a sleeve was lol
Said "usually gussets big trucks running 40's and never touched a Jk"

Guess a no go here lol
LMAO!

Endangered Species in MA. He talked to me for like 30 minutes about that & lifts for my new Rubi. Real nice guy & seemed very knowledgeable. I'd definitely bring it there, I've heard great things about them.

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I drove my rubi stock for 18 months. C's bent after a few months.
Excuse my ignorance, but how can you tell if you have a bent C? Is it something you can see or is there some measuring that needs to happen?

Nevermind, I think I just found my answer.


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Tire leaning in and excessive negative camber.

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Old 08-28-2012, 01:50 PM   #93
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LMAO!

Endangered Species in MA. He talked to me for like 30 minutes about that & lifts for my new Rubi. Real nice guy & seemed very knowledgeable. I'd definitely bring it there, I've heard great things about them.
I know someone that had work done there.
They left a hub bolt lose and it sheared off on the knuckle

So...... What part of MA ? Lol
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Excuse my ignorance, but how can you tell if you have a bent C? Is it something you can see or is there some measuring that needs to happen?

Nevermind, I think I just found my answer.
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Old 08-28-2012, 01:51 PM   #95
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I know someone that had work done there.
They left a hub bolt lose and it sheared off on the knuckle

So...... What part of MA ? Lol
Haha, awesome! not sure where outside of springfield I think.
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Haha, awesome! not sure where outside of springfield I think.
Sweet..... Looks like I'm going to have it done there
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Old 08-28-2012, 01:57 PM   #97
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Sweet..... Looks like I'm going to have it done there
Maybe we can get a discount if we go together.
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Maybe we can get a discount if we go together.
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Damn, I wish I'd seen this a yrear ago before I bought my used Rubicon.

Looking at my front tires, it looks like my passenger side is leaning in slightly at the top, whereas the driver side doesn't. Not a huge amount, but noticeable. I had it aligned when I put tires on and they didn't tell me anything was out of whack. I have been rotating my tires at 3k to keep things even, so this should help me out as far as irregular wear.

Was starting to save up for my 2.5 lift and new tires. Guess I need to have this looked at first.
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Artec JK Armor Kit

Hey, thought I would chime in. Thanks for the heads up on the thread! Below is an illustration of some of the features of the JK Armor Kit, as well as an installed pic.



Here is a pic of the kit fully installed by our friends over at
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:29 PM   #101
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Great pics of the installed ARTEC kit. The gussets even look beefier than others that I have seen. Has anyone figured out the %age of increase in structural rigidity over stock JK axles? (Looks impressive!)
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:36 PM   #102
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Hey, thought I would chime in. Thanks for the heads up on the thread! Below is an illustration of some of the features of the JK Armor Kit, as well as an installed pic.

Here is a pic of the kit fully installed by our friends over at
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That looks like a lot of welding/heat. Easier to mess up if the person does not know what they're doing ?
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What is the degree of difficulty of installing the C gussets with ball joints remaining installed? I know zero about welding, but did read you can mess them up with heat if you don't cool the welds quickly. Will a competent welder get the job done easily and not damage ball joints? Or is it dicier than people let on?
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Old 08-29-2012, 03:15 PM   #104
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Almost wish I hadn't seen the Artec kit!


I just now pulled on the trigger on the Rockslide R-SE Bombshell Outer Axle Housing Kit, but just the outter sleeve parts (on the right).

For gussets, I went with Synergy's inner C gusset kit.


And the TeraFlex Front Axle Tube Sleeve (just noticed backordered... dang; called back Q and got it changed to the Synergy sleeve -- and DANG that is back ordered as well... )



Some axle seals... and


And Rancho dif' cover.

That should buy me (literally) some confidence. A little bit, anyway.

Now if I could just learn to drive the jeep and pick my lines better...
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Almost wish I hadn't seen the Artec kit!

I just now pulled on the trigger on the Rockslide R-SE Bombshell Outer Axle Housing Kit, but just the outter sleeve parts (on the right).

For gussets, I went with Synergy's inner C gusset kit.

And the TeraFlex Front Axle Tube Sleeve (just noticed backordered... dang; called back Q and got it changed to the Synergy sleeve -- and DANG that is back ordered as well... )

Some axle seals... and

And Rancho dif' cover.

That should buy me (literally) some confidence. A little bit, anyway.

Now if I could just learn to drive the jeep and pick my lines better...
Wait..... There is an outer sleeve ?
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Driving by Braille is an approved method!
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Old 08-29-2012, 03:43 PM   #107
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Driving by Braille is an approved method!
And I read to the deaf too!

Regarding the outer sleeve - yea, there's more

If I total it up, my "new" axle will be 623% stronger than the original

So much for working on the free mods (but hey, I did pull the carpet).

Perhaps I should chop my fenders and put my wallet away

Hey, I just thought of something -- now I need to learn to weld...
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Very precise.
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ARMOR!
ARMOR!

That's gorgeous.
Now you just need to scratch it up a bit.
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Those synergy skid plates are SEXY. They look even better beat up.
Those pics were right after the install in April. I have banged them up a bit since then.

FWIW, the skids in the pics are Rock Hard, not Synergy.
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Tough decision time:
Artec, PureJeep, or Synergy.

I am only doing gussets and truss.
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That looks like a lot of welding/heat. Easier to mess up if the person does not know what they're doing ?
It is a fair amount of welding, however the instructions provided in the kit will guide a person through the entire process. We do reccomend that a proficient welder install this kit and follow the guidelines to ensure proper install.
The biggest thing is patience, you cannot go and weld the whole thing on in one pass or you are going to warp your axle tubes (kind of contradictory to the purpose of the kit). It is important to skip weld and jump back and forth around the axle, allowing it to cool down slightly between welds.
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Tough decision time:
Artec, PureJeep, or Synergy.

I am only doing gussets and truss.
Just FYI, we are the only company to offer a truss that spans the entire length of the axle. Also, our inner C gussets are made from 1/4" material instead of 3/16".

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I'm sold. Artec kit is in my future for sure.

My only concern is the amount of crap that will get in there and stay in there. You'll need to grind off the paint to do the welds, but won't be able to repaint inside to seal it up. Gonna rust quick.
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That is one of my big issues with a truss. How do you paint the axle tubes?
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Just FYI, we are the only company to offer a truss that spans the entire length of the axle. Also, our inner C gussets are made from 1/4" material instead of 3/16".
Seriously, dude: You are making me doubt myself, haha. Good looking product, for sure.
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Tagged to hear the weld dressing answer...
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Some pretty nice kits out there. Anyone use the jks kit?
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I think the Artec/Synergy style look much stronger than the JKS.
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I think the Artec/Synergy style look much stronger than the JKS.
I am just looking for experiences. I have installed several brands, never a jks. Past experience with jks has left little doubt there products are top notch.

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