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Old 10-17-2011, 10:57 AM   #1
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Undercoating???

My cousin who owns several Jeeps told me to get my Jeep undercoated, I was curious what everybody in here thinks about it? He seemed to believe it was a no-brainer

Keep in mind I live in Ohio, and experience very salty winter

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DIY with Rustoleum...if there is any rust already there, spray it with Rustoleum Reformer 1st
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I wouldn't do it, especially if they are going to drill any holes!
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My cousin who owns several Jeeps told me to get my Jeep undercoated, I was curious what everybody in here thinks about it? He seemed to believe it was a no-brainer

Keep in mind I live in Ohio, and experience very salty winter
Unless the terminology is being used for both. Undercoating is for sound deadening. "Rustproofing" is different. I still wouldn't have a dealer or company sell you on "rustproofing". A JK is rust proofed as part of the manufacturing process. It is practically impossible for the frame and undercarraige not to rust unless you treat every component yourself with some of the products that were mentioned. A dealer or company are not going to do that. They'll drill and spray into the body where you don't need it.
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Sup to you but really is unnecessary.

I would never pay to have it done but thought about DIY

There are write-ups around on these forums.
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:20 PM   #7
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I have a different situation...

My dealer do the undercoating for FREE as an added value BUT
my main concern is if the quality of the product is good

It's rubberized so I'm not sure if it's against rust
It says it is against rust but not sure if the quality is good

Have anyone heard about this brand?

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Old 10-17-2011, 12:26 PM   #8
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Talking Por15

POR15 <--- I would do some searches about this. It seems to get a lot of love for doing undercoating. I'm currently trying to research up for when I pull the trigger on a new JK. Any advice on using it or experience would be cool.

If you are undercoating make sure not to paint the exhaust unless your using high temp paint.
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Old 10-18-2011, 06:32 AM   #9
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So for a non-DYI'er for the time being, is undercoating/rustproofing still not really needed to get from the dealer/specialist? I also live in a pretty salty area and I've seen my mom's car (granted it is 15/16 years old now) rust all over the place because she's not treated it.

I'd probably be fine with it rusting after 15 years, but I'm just worried if I don't treat it that it'll start rusting through the doors or somewhere visible in like 3-5 years.
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Old 10-18-2011, 08:20 AM   #10
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I've been driving for over 50 years and have never had a rig with 'rust coating'. But that's in states that don't saute the highways with salt.
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I'd check with the dealer to see what type of warranty the rustproofing has. I just bought a 2012 last month and this rustproofing is guaranteed for life (under body and paint) plus as an added bonus they offered me free oil changes for life with the package.
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12 years ago I bought a cabin in the mountains in Utah. And have since that time spent from late November into May there annually. This year I sold my 5 year old Jeep Commander - mainly due to the fact that everything underneath was rusting out. Bolts. Nuts. Air conditioning lines (that run to the back of the vehicle). Every time work had to be done on it, more stuff would break (nuts 'n bolts 'n stuff).
I'd been in SoCal most of my life, and didn't understand the *need* for caring for the undercarriage due to salt. We're talking in the mountains - not the valley. It snows about 5-6 months out of the year, and the highway gets salt/sand on it. I did start washing the underside when possible after the first few winters... when it was above 32 in the valley. And many times the day I'd drive down, it would not be.
That said, I spoke with my neighbors. Everyone up there says *undercoat* / *wash* / check for spots in the undercoating that get chipped out and re-do. A constant vigil.

Bought my new Wrangler when I sold the Commander. Had it undercoated. I'm in SoCal now 'til November, and am familiarizing myself with the undercarriage... (been under there putting on skids / changing oil / and just looking around ... spraying Fluid Film on nuts/bolts... and preparing for the battle. I WANT this vehicle to last. I found a place in SLC that lets you pay to use a lift. I can get it washed, put it on the lift, and keep an eye on things. I plan to use the POV system where needed along with their undercoating... Will keep you posted as the winter comes and goes. This is serious snow country, and I'm up in the thick of it at 8000'. 780" of snowfall last winter...
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I'm in MA and I too am concerned with road salt. Next summer, I am going to prep and touch up any spots that appear to be rusting underneath. I am using POR15 which comes highly recommended by the body shop here at work and was reinforced by the threads in this forum. I would have done it this summer but my son's jeep 92 YJ has been getting all the POR15 attention. His is in fantastic shape for a 92. His had been painted by a PO but just needed some attention here and there.
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I'm in MA and I too am concerned with road salt. Next summer, I am going to prep and touch up any spots that appear to be rusting underneath. I am using POR15 which comes highly recommended by the body shop here at work and was reinforced by the threads in this forum. I would have done it this summer but my son's jeep 92 YJ has been getting all the POR15 attention. His is in fantastic shape for a 92. His had been painted by a PO but just needed some attention here and there.
POR15 works great... unless it rusts from the inside out...
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I live in Newfoundland, the saltiest, nastiest, place around that will ruin a vehicle in no time. I've had all my vehicles undercoated to date and they do last a long time. My 2nd last car was a Corolla which I had undercoated/lifetime rust protection done 6 years ago. Looking at this car's underside is a testiment to rustproofing. It works, Period! If you live in a salty area where the department of transportation salts the roads, you owe it to yourself to get it done if you are planning on keeping the vehicle. Would never buy a used vehicle that didn't have it done from new...I've walked away from several, even at the dealer. A rusty undersided vehicle is an absolute turn off....
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I can not speak for POR-15, but I have used KBS ( KBS Coatings - Paint Over Rust - Stop Rust Paint - Gas Tank Sealer - Gas Tank Liner ) on my 2004 TJ. I will recommend... stopped the rust and added rust protection.
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Anything you do to protect against rust is GOOD!
Especially where salt is a possibility.
When I bought my Compass I had the dealer do their rustproofing with their guarantee for five years, on top of that each year I had additional anti-rustproofing applied by an independent source, cost about $80/yr, with their guarantee as well.
I don't want to see rust!
I plan do treat my Wrangler the same, when it finally is produced.
(I previously ran a BMW for 14years, over 260,000kms - and it had very marginal rust only starting in the front fenders and rocker panels when I gave it up)
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2011 JK asked dealer about the undercoating and they said they do it for free on new Jeeps. Looked under mine and no undercoating. Ask the service department and they undercoated for free. With the winters and salt in VA, it was recommended to have the vehicle undercoated.

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