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Old 05-23-2013, 02:43 AM   #1
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Hey everyone, its my first post on the forum, and I was looking for some financial, and mechanical tips, advice, and help with a new jeep.

So here's the story, my old man was an avid off roader. A proud owner of a fully rebuilt 1973 Ford Bronco, and a "work in progress" 1969 Ford Bronco. He would take me everywhere in that bronco, and soon I developed a taste for it too. So by the time I was 16, a drivers license, and my first job. I bought a 1995 jeep wrangler YJ.

Now, two years later, and a heafty some of cash with upgrades, and repairs, here I am. 18 just finishing high school and my first college course. Getting ready to head off to the big city for school. A good 6 hour drive from my home town. Problem is, the old girl won't make it that far anymore. She's just got too many miles on her. So my father offered me a choice. Sell the old red one I hold dear, and he'll buy a brand new 2013 wrangler sport right off the line (so long as I take over the payments once I'm done university) and give it to me. As much as I hated to say yes, I did. I thought to myself, its good money over bad. My old 95 is gunna keep breaking down and getting worse, and that old girl owes me nothing more. She was a great jeep, and a perfect first vehicle.

(Sorry for the life story, heres the cut to the chase) But now, here I am with a 2013 stock wrangler sport, and honestly? If just doesn't look right. Here's a list of things i want to do, and I'm looking for your guy's pro advice and veteran knowledge.

1. I wanna replace those factory "dinky" tires with some nice 35"s preferably dick cepeks. Or any tire I can use for the offroad I'm putting her through. Also, will I need to cut the flares to make those fit?

2. For those tires, I'm gunna need a lift. So whats the best kind of lift for low income student such as myself? I'm looking at atleast a 2.5" - 3" lift maybe a 4" lift? What's the best option to fit those 35s?

3. A hefty brush guard, and a winch to match. What is the best one you have used? And what will be my best "bang for the buck" choice?

4. How difficult will all this be considering all the technical advances from that old 95 to this new 13?

5. Finally, I'm looking for some extra light. Where can I get a rugged, sturdy light bar for my new baby?

Any help from you pros will be greatly appreciated, cheers!

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Old 05-23-2013, 06:29 AM   #2
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You won't like this advice but here it goes:

35's cost money as you are well aware. Not only that once you go 35's you are going to have to regear, period. So there is more cash outlay. Even though you will most likely just be running pavement your gas mileage will die with 35's and stock sport gearing. But I do agree that the stock sports look wimpy so, pick up some rubi tires, they are 32's and won't effect your MPG.

More advice you won't like, just leave it stock till you are out of school. No sense spending money where and when it is not needed. You may want to get some ACE rock rails to keep other peoples doors away from yours.

If you are really bent on modding before going off to school, then give us a dollar figure to shoot for so we would know if s budget boost is best or full on competition lift.

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Old 05-23-2013, 06:36 AM   #3
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1. A lot of people (myself included 315/70/17) run duratracs as a nice balance between offroad and onroad
2. 35's will fit with a leveling kit and trimmed flares.
3. On a budget? cut your stock bumper into a stubby and get a winch plate.
4. All of those previous mods i mentioned are fairly easy.
5. not sure on this one.
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You won't like this advice but here it goes:

35's cost money as you are well aware. Not only that once you go 35's you are going to have to regear, period. So there is more cash outlay. Even though you will most likely just be running pavement your gas mileage will die with 35's and stock sport gearing. But I do agree that the stock sports look wimpy so, pick up some rubi tires, they are 32's and won't effect your MPG.

More advice you won't like, just leave it stock till you are out of school. No sense spending money where and when it is not needed. You may want to get some ACE rock rails to keep other peoples doors away from yours.

If you are really bent on modding before going off to school, then give us a dollar figure to shoot for so we would know if s budget boost is best or full on competition lift.
I agree to the extent that you shouldn't start modding it until out of school. To me the money you want to mod with should be going to your father to help pay for the jeep. It's the responsible an respectful thing to do in my opinion. But if you do choose to mod on a low budget a 2.5" budget boost an 35's will work fine. You won't have to regear for 35's but gas mileage will drop. I have a 13 sport with 3.21 gears an it has plenty of get up an go with the 35's I have on mine an I'm still getting 18mpg.
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I'm in agreement to save your money, however, all I hear is gas mileage this and that. I was around 18ish stock 3.21's and now am 17 with a lift and 35's. Not a huge difference. As far as rehearing it is not a necessity like some will have you believe. Sure 3.21's eat a little bit of power and mpg's but I have no complaints with my setup. Once you start hard core wheeling then you may want a gear change. Good luck in college!
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. You won't have to regear for 35's but gas mileage will drop. I have a 13 sport with 3.21 gears an it has plenty of get up an go with the 35's I have on mine an I'm still getting 18mpg.

WOW that is impressive. We went to 35's with our Rubi and mpg went to 12. Regear brought us up to 15.
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WOW that is impressive. We went to 35's with our Rubi and mpg went to 12. Regear brought us up to 15.
I wonder if it's transmission related? I can push I to 18 mpg if I'm easy on the throttle.
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i can still get 20mpg on the highway w/ my 35s and snorkel and 3.73s
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I wonder if it's transmission related? I can push I to 18 mpg if I'm easy on the throttle.
I have a pretty light foot. It takes a bit of time from 0-20mph but after that an shifting it picks up speed quick. I don't mind it at all, I'm in no hurry, but other people behind me might get upset at times lol. But my suggestion for the OP is to do A LOT of research. Look into lift kits, quality brands(teraflex, rock krawler, aev, metal clock, ect. an sizes. See how many added components it take to run a certain size lift(trackbars, control arms, ect.). Look into body armor an bumpers. Look into tire sizes an wheel sizes plus the weight of each. Then after you want all of what you found hold off get your money straight an buy things over periods of time
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i have a pretty light foot. It takes a bit of time from 0-20mph but after that an shifting it picks up speed quick. I don't mind it at all, i'm in no hurry, but other people behind me might get upset at times lol. But my suggestion for the op is to do a lot of research. Look into lift kits, quality brands(teraflex, rock krawler, aev, metal clock, ect. An sizes. See how many added components it take to run a certain size lift(trackbars, control arms, ect.). Look into body armor an bumpers. Look into tire sizes an wheel sizes plus the weight of each. Then after you want all of what you found hold off get your money straight an buy things over periods of time
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I agree with some others...just drive it as it is while you're in school and mod it later. Even stock, it's a great all-purpose vehicle. But if you insist:

Instead of 35s, go with 33s. Less money out of your pocket, and you can run them at stock height. You may need spacers or wheels with less backspacing to avoid rubbing, but that's a good "bang for the buck" option. Once you're out of school and making your own money, it'll probably be time to replace the tires, and then you can go all out.

If you really want to lift it, get a budget boost. It won't change the stock ride, but it will be taller and the factory rake will be gone if you choose your kit carefully.

Do the stubby bumper mod and get a winch plate (already suggested). I have had good results with my Q9000 winch and they aren't terribly expensive.

None of these modifications is difficult to do and nothing takes a special tool.
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If you are on a budget, stick to 33s. 35s open up a can of financial worms that I wouldn't want to deal with as a student. Axle beefing, regear, gas hit, need a rear bumper/tire carrier, etc etc....

Get "the combo" from DiscountTire and don't look back.
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Oh man...that is a great picture!
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Thanks for all the great replies guys. I guess the smarter and more respectable decision would be to wait until after school, and fully compensate the generous gift my father gave me.

But in response to the first post, I guess I'm budgeting for around 2 grand to start off with. Plus many of you convinced me to go with 32s. I mean its cheaper, and I ran them ob ky old 95 and they were just fine!

But could you guys explain this "budget lift"? I'm looking at that just before I head off to calgary for school before september.

Thanks again guys for all the replies, I can tell I'm gunna really benifit from being on these forums. Especially from all of you veterans on here to give me some well needed advice!
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If your looking for a light bar option, Rugged Ridge has a windshield light bar for a couple hundred. Holds up to five 7" lights and is built tough (rubbed a few trees without a scratch) also some windshield light brackets a fairly inexpensive. Most aftermarket bumpers will have light mounts also.

As for the "budget lift", those usually consist of some springs and spacers without shocks. Around 2-2.5" of lift. My wife just put on a Tera Flex 2.5" w/shocks ($700) with 33" on stock rims and Tera Flex 1.25" wheel spacers ($180 for 4). It looks and rides great with no rubbing and no fender mods.

Hope this helps and good luck.
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Thanks for all the great replies guys. I guess the smarter and more respectable decision would be to wait until after school, and fully compensate the generous gift my father gave me.
That's a tough decision to make! Your dad may never say it, but he will be very appreciative.
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But could you guys explain this "budget lift"? I'm looking at that just before I head off to calgary for school before september.
A budget boost typically consists of coil spacers for the front and back along with some other goodies, depending on the kit. They will lift your rig anywhere from an inch to two inches. I had a friend who ran a budget boost for quite a while and was very happy with it.
Here's an example. Rock Krawler Suspension RKJKBBLT - Rock Krawler Budget Based Long Travel 1.75" System for 07-13 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK - Quadratec

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