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Old 11-19-2011, 06:08 PM   #31
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Were you out on the road and one blew, what is the strategy, given maybe being 400 miles from home?
Pull out your tool kit and change it?

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Old 11-19-2011, 10:28 PM   #32
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I'm sure Bill will be here to tell you the same thing, I've got both, actually I've got Cibie Z-beams that I bought from Hilldweller...the Cibies are superior, period...what is important is to get the right bulb for them and have all your aux. lighting to compliment the headlights...

There is more to this discussion, especially about foreground lighting and white/blue and long range sight for the human eye...

Get the Cibies .............
I'm confused on which bulb to get. Philips or Osram?
Going with cibes. Which (cheaper) backup bulb to get?

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Old 11-20-2011, 12:12 AM   #33
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I have been running the rallylights.com Hella H4 conversion for a few months now with Hella 80/100 bulbs. Fantastic light with great cutoff. I have yet to be flashed. I have been on the road with my wife passing by in the Jeep and me in my in my little commuter. The lights are not blinding at all. Even if you go with less powerful bulbs the rallylights.com kit is an impressive improvement over stock. Well worth the investment.
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Old 11-20-2011, 12:15 AM   #34
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I used the kit in the thread below. The relay mounting is different than the instructions due to battery placement next the Jesus Motor™ in the 2012s, but it is a dramatic, legal improvement for just a couple hundred dollars. Get the Phillips Xtreme bulbs with the kit.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/ral...all-73538.html
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Old 11-20-2011, 05:50 AM   #35
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The more I night drive with the Phillips bulbs in the more I really like my lighting. The low beam pattern is VERY good. High beam is much better. I just ordered a second (spare) set to have on hand as I've noted several state about low bulb life.

Frankly, I would highly suggest that anyone cosidering headlight changes FIRST change to the Phillips bulbs. Then if your happy your only out 30-odd bucks. If not, you still have great bulbs for yout upgrade. Seems like a win-win.

Many thanks to 'Hilldweller" for his efforts.
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Old 11-20-2011, 06:19 AM   #36
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Question on BULB spares:

What is the anticipated 'normal use' length before replacement on the DS 70/65 setup? And do you carry them IN the rig or leave at home until needed?

Were you out on the road and one blew, what is the strategy, given maybe being 400 miles from home?
I only had one blow "on the fly" ---- and I carried spares. Swapped them both at the same time.
Headlights are so important that maybe swapping them regularly at the time-changes isn't a bad idea? Fall back, change your bulbs; spring ahead, change your bulbs.
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Old 11-20-2011, 07:03 AM   #37
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I'm confused on which bulb to get. Philips or Osram?
Going with cibes. Which (cheaper) backup bulb to get?
From my use, the Osram 70/65's seem to be a better fit for the Cibies....

The Phillips are too white for me, but they are a great bulb and may work for your night vision..?

I'm currently testing some cheap Wagner "off the shelf" bulbs from my local NAPA, just for availability when I need a couple bulbs quickly...so far the 60w Wagner H-4's aren't too bad, yesterday I picked up some NAPA Harley bulbs for testing next week driving to work.

It's my opinion that with the bypass harness, new Cibies and H-4 bulbs you will see a great improvement with nearly any H-4 bulb....I'd say go with the Osram 70/65's though...
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Old 11-21-2011, 07:42 PM   #38
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Cibies and harness from Daniel Stern Lighting

I installed Cibie lenses and reflectors with built-in parking light (future use), Osram 70/65W Bilux H4 bulbs, and a new harness in my 2011 JK Wrangler. (Based on information a gathered from this forum.) The difference is worth the cost ($376.38) and the time for install (about 2 hours).

I bought the harness wired for driving lights, again, for future use, so the cost is a little higher and the harness is slightly more complex. But, now adding driving lights will be a cinch.

I do a lot of night driving on Interstates and backroads in Pennsylvania and Maryland and the stock lamps were just terrible. The eye fatigue alone made the upgrade worth the work.

I like the cutoff of the Cibie lenses and no one has flashed their brights at me, even with the offroad Bilux bulbs.

Go ahead, pull the trigger and contact Daniel Stern Lighting.

The first picture is of the relays on the firewall behind the battery. You will see a gray-jacketed wire labeled, "L Headlight," running along the firewall. Tip: Label the wires before you run them. The second is of one of the Cibie lenses.


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Old 11-22-2011, 05:33 PM   #39
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I used the kit in the thread below. The relay mounting is different than the instructions due to battery placement next the Jesus Motor™ in the 2012s, but it is a dramatic, legal improvement for just a couple hundred dollars. Get the Phillips Xtreme bulbs with the kit.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/ral...all-73538.html

I just got my Crush 2012 in today. I've been looking at upgrading to the kit you keep mentioning. I'm not a wrench type guy, but have done some in the past. How hard would it be to do this conversion? Any write-ups on exactly how to do it? Estimate in time to complete?
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Old 11-22-2011, 05:47 PM   #40
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I'm done the same Dan Stern upgrade kit. Took the guy I hired $60 to do the whole job, barely an hour.

I'm so pleased with the choice, I'm planing on the fog light upgrade as well. It's hard to find local in stock dealers with housing units without the whole kit that I don't need.

Looking at a variety of switches, but discovered my harness came WITH a spiffy switch.

Per someone here tip, it might even mount in the cig lighter. We'll see soon.
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Old 11-23-2011, 07:43 AM   #41
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I just got my Crush 2012 in today. I've been looking at upgrading to the kit you keep mentioning. I'm not a wrench type guy, but have done some in the past. How hard would it be to do this conversion? Any write-ups on exactly how to do it? Estimate in time to complete?
Very easy job, maybe an hour....here's some tips for you..

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/ral...all-73538.html
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Old 11-23-2011, 08:51 AM   #42
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I just got my Crush 2012 in today. I've been looking at upgrading to the kit you keep mentioning. I'm not a wrench type guy, but have done some in the past. How hard would it be to do this conversion? Any write-ups on exactly how to do it? Estimate in time to complete?
I did the Rallylights Hella H4 Headlight conversion and it took me about an hour or so to do.

I had to remove the front grill that doesn't require any tools unless you have problems removing the fasteners. I used a lot of zip ties to attach the wiring harness that came with the kit to another harness that was already mounted under the hood following the same path where I had to run the new wiring to both Hella headlights. I needed a screwdriver to remove the stock headlights and install the new Hella lights. I don't recall using any other tools.

If you want to permanently attach the wiring harness relays then you might need to drill a hole under the hood. I just zip tied them to some existing harnesses that were under the hood near the battery.
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Old 11-23-2011, 09:00 AM   #43
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Awesome. Good to know it's not hard at all. The lights in it are absolutely terrible from factory!
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Old 11-30-2011, 06:35 PM   #44
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I've been reading headlight threads from years ago as my first mods are going to be lighting related. I think I'm set on LED aux lighting (pending some responses in another thread) but haven't decided on a factory upgrade yet. I was THIS close to going the Trucklites route before stumbling on Hilldwellers thread/review. So, at this time (Dec 2012) it seems the Cibie/Osram H4 conversion is still the way to go. And the Hella would be a great 2nd choice.

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