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Old 05-30-2012, 01:14 AM   #1
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Using a high-lift jack as a winch....fact or fiction...

I saw this product on Amazon while browsing for Jeep stuff and this sparked my interest...

Amazon.com: Hi-Lift Jack ORK Off-Road Kit: Automotive

If one is stuck and without a winch, is it really possible to use tow straps and a high lift to drag your rig out by yourself??? Seems like a great solution when you are alone and are either winchless or your winch craps out on you.

Curious as to what you guys think about this method...

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Yes you can see how on the hi-lift web site you use it as a ratchet to pull your rig out the mud.

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Old 05-30-2012, 01:18 AM   #3
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here is a how to video.
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Old 05-30-2012, 01:22 AM   #4
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If you HAVE TOO it's ok, but I'm careful with anything hi lift related. I'd rather use a come along personally.
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Old 05-30-2012, 01:25 AM   #5
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I realize the winch makes things a LOT easier, but can this be used instead of a permanently mounted winch?
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And again YES but like jkaufman_95 said if your going to use it like that might as well just get a come along its a poor mans winch. And trust I have used one when I was younger and not making better money in life.
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Old 05-30-2012, 01:46 AM   #7
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For me it's not about the money. I use my Jeep 99% for on road purposes, but plan on doing at least one expedition trip a year, so driving around with a winch seems like a waste 99% of the time. A come along (as I've read) serves only one function where as the highlift can do the same thing as a come along, plus it can actually lift. My question was, is it ok to only have a high lift for an emergency for that 1% of the time where you might need help...it seems the answer is yes.
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For me it's not about the money. I use my Jeep 99% for on road purposes, but plan on doing at least one expedition trip a year, so driving around with a winch seems like a waste 99% of the time. A come along (as I've read) serves only one function where as the highlift can do the same thing as a come along, plus it can actually lift. My question was, is it ok to only have a high lift for an emergency for that 1% of the time where you might need help...it seems the answer is yes.
Yes, I hate high lifts with a passion but the do come in very hand for a lot of jobs not just jeep related ones. I used mine to pull old fence post out one time. Saved me a lot of digging.
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Old 05-30-2012, 11:27 AM   #9
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The come along is much safer that's why I suggested it hi lifts have a reputation as "the widow maker"
I've never actually used my hi lift off road. But I've used it for a few other things
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Old 05-30-2012, 01:16 PM   #10
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The come along is much safer that's why I suggested it hi lifts have a reputation as "the widow maker"
I've never actually used my hi lift off road. But I've used it for a few other things
Are they really that dangerous??? I figured that if you used one as a winch, the strap would snap WAY before the jack gave out no?
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Are they really that dangerous??? I figured that if you used one as a winch, the strap would snap WAY before the jack gave out no?
Its not so much a catastrophic failure such as it "giving out" but more of the handle getting away from you and smashing your face in. And some straps can take a much higher load then the hi lift
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Old 05-30-2012, 01:50 PM   #12
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High lift brand are great and the handles are bomb proof. Knock off brands get you into trouble with shoddy gears and pinched seem handles. The jack is only as safe as the person using it. Know its capacity limits
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Are they really that dangerous??? I figured that if you used one as a winch, the strap would snap WAY before the jack gave out no?
the reputation is because its mostly used in pretty shady situations. like, your jeep is jammed up on rocks all crooked, you jack it up and push it over to better ground or your trying to use it in slick mud and it shoots out from under the jeep and takes your arm with it... or sometimes people will jack 'em (used to do this bumper jacks to) and crawl under it then get squished when it falls...

Follow simple rules, good jack points and common sense and you'll be ok. Take your chances, and you'll loose a limb right quick!
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Here's a good thread on this very topic, with lots of informative answers from Jimbo: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/is-...ice-96087.html

Here's a very good article showing proper Hi-Lift technique. I haven't read it in a while, but my recollection is that I came away with a reasonable understanding of why they're so dangerous: Overland Journal: Jack of all Trades

Presently considering one of these for hand recovery: http://www.expeditionswest.com/equip..._rat_winch.htm
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I saw this product on Amazon while browsing for Jeep stuff and this sparked my interest...

Amazon.com: Hi-Lift Jack ORK Off-Road Kit: Automotive

If one is stuck and without a winch, is it really possible to use tow straps and a high lift to drag your rig out by yourself??? Seems like a great solution when you are alone and are either winchless or your winch craps out on you.

Curious as to what you guys think about this method...
Yes you can absolutely use it to get yourself out. Before I got a winch I used it to get myself out of bumper deep mud an it worked great. You can expect to be there for a little while though because it isn't really a quick process.
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Ill never rely on one thing to get me out it might be parinoid but i have a8k winch comalong snatch block straps tree saver dlinks hijack on my list as well as a come along. Id rather be over prepared with plenty of options get a hijack and use it as a jack get a come along and use it as a come along
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Here's a good thread on this very topic, with lots of informative answers from Jimbo: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/is-...ice-96087.html

Here's a very good article showing proper Hi-Lift technique. I haven't read it in a while, but my recollection is that I came away with a reasonable understanding of why they're so dangerous: Overland Journal: Jack of all Trades

Presently considering one of these for hand recovery: http://www.expeditionswest.com/equip..._rat_winch.htm
I quoted the rat pack a few weeks ago in a thread a the best portable recovery option period. Glad to see others considering this. You will love it.
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Or the vehicle/jack rocks and you get a nasty ding in your sheetmetal from the Hi-Lift. Nice to have but almost a last resort.
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Old 05-30-2012, 02:42 PM   #19
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I quoted the rat pack a few weeks ago in a thread a the best portable recovery option period. Glad to see others considering this. You will love it.
Pretty sure you gave me the idea . . . .
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Pretty sure you gave me the idea . . . .
Line speed under full load can be comparable to electric winches, but more work : D

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