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Old 06-05-2011, 07:33 AM   #1
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Utility Trailers?

I have a 2011 Wrangler 2 door.
A few months ago there was a contest for a very cool utility trailer, I think it was from a Colorado company, anybody know the company?

Any tips of where to find a "cool" 4x6 utility trailer for home use, back and forth to Cape Cod. I know there are a ton of landscape type trailers out there, I was hoping to find something a bit cooler looking and with tires that can take a 200 mile round trip easily.

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a lot of the adventure style trailers start off as cheep landscape trailers. then the guys or girls state building them up. get tires that are the same as whats on your rig. maybe lift it up a little so its level with the jeep and have fun. no need to buy an over priced one

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There are probably 1000 different types/styles of off-road trailers and rather than wasting your time with my ideas--

Go to google and checkout --Off-Road Trailers---

That will get you PAGES of different types/styles/costs/ideas, you can't believe how many of the off-road world use trailers !!

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I have a 2011 Wrangler 2 door.
A few months ago there was a contest for a very cool utility trailer, I think it was from a Colorado company, anybody know the company?

Any tips of where to find a "cool" 4x6 utility trailer for home use, back and forth to Cape Cod. I know there are a ton of landscape type trailers out there, I was hoping to find something a bit cooler looking and with tires that can take a 200 mile round trip easily.

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The 'contest' trailer you're thinking of is probably the Pikes Peak Trailer.

I thought it looked fantastic! But, it seems to have a steep price tag attached.
Many people buy cheap Harbor Freight trailers ( $300-ish ), and use it as a platform to build the kind of trailer you're looking for. ( I may do this next year ).

I managed to get my hands on a 4x8 trailer super-cheap; it was in a sad state of disrepair.
I stripped it down, fixed some welds, put on a new tongue, repainted, new wood, new axle & springs. I should finish it up in a day or two. It looks very similar to the Pikes Peak, but 4x8.
With the initial cost of $250, and another $250 for the axle & springs, I think the lumber / steel / hardware brought my total build price up to about $750 or $800.
My only concern is that it's going to be too big for my Lil Jeep to tow reasonably. If that's the case, I'll sell it off & build a new one for next year.
Seeing the prices on trailers, I should be able to make enough off this one to recoup what I have into it, and pay for most -maybe all- of my next build.

I'll be posting up a thread in the "Builder's corner" today or tomorrow, if you're interested.
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Old 06-05-2011, 09:34 AM   #5
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Here's one of mine:



here's the most recent acquisition:
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your second photo (most recent acquisition) is perfect for me! Where did you find that? size? Cost? Thank you very much.
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Craigslist is your friend.....check your area but this one is in CT

M416 Army Stevens Jeep Trailer
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Old 06-05-2011, 11:07 AM   #9
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that's a great price on the M416 at $1250....I'd jump on it in a heartbeat if I weren't 3000 miles away.

There are minor variations in different models. Unless you're really into the minutea of collector details, that linked one already restored is a steal IMHO.

As a user of a 1942 Bantam for nearly 20 years before a military collector filled it with greenbacks and lured it away from me, they are a perfect user-size for small hauling needs.
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that's a great price on the M416 at $1250....I'd jump on it in a heartbeat if I weren't 3000 miles away.
IMO $1250 is a bit on the high side. YOu can come by some real nice deals if you take your time and search the right places like expedition portal.
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Looks great, how does it connect to a typical draw bar and ball?
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You will need a pintle hitch like this one for most ex-military trailers.

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Thats a great combo hitch and I have one also, but


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You will need a pintle hitch like this one for most ex-military trailers.

If you're towing off-road, you should get either/both a Lock&Roll or a Max Coupler hitch- they are strong and QUIET all the time --(google them)

Course if your trailer can use ONLY a LUNNETTE, then you'll need jp90s suggestion !!

I have allofem for my trailer and I use the Lunnette on my jeep for an anchor point



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Do you folks with a trailer use a transmission cooler? I have auto transmission.
Thank you.
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2007 thru 2011--REQUIREMENT !!


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Do you folks with a trailer use a transmission cooler? I have auto transmission.
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Google ---JK jeep auto aux cooler-

REAMS of info-

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2007 thru 2011--REQUIREMENT !!






Google ---JK jeep auto aux cooler-

REAMS of info-

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Jimbox,

I see the cooler hanging off the radiator. What is the ribbed thing hanging off the back of the bumper?
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Heh Heh. a couiple years ago, when I was researching the overheating problems with the 42rle auto tranny---


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I see the cooler hanging off the radiator. What is the ribbed thing hanging off the back of the bumper?
I had stuff left over from racing my '72 Cuda" and I had a "race" frame mount 500cc finned aluminum tranny oil cooler, that I had used with my B&M mod A727 Dodge auto-

It's notta real requirement, but since my Stock plastic "air dam" has beem goned ! I wanted some more cooling while I'm towing my trailer up hills off-road and now my tranny RARELY gets over 170° F-so it was just added insurance-

I seem to remember "MOROSO" being the mfg--

I think that just a B&M aux cooler in front of the A/C condenser, should be good enough !!

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It's notta real requirement, but since my Stock plastic "air dam" has beem goned ! I wanted some more cooling while I'm towing my trailer up hills off-road and now my tranny RARELY gets over 170° F-so it was just added insurance-

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So... your stock cooler has an aux cooler which has it's own aux cooler?

How much extra fluid did you have to add?

The reason I ask is, I was using my 7.5 X 12 foot utility trailer yesterday to haul a dresser for an elderly lady (90+) that my wife helps on the weekends. Near the end of the trip, up and down 2 Causeways, I noticed a "hot motor" smell. I'm not positive it was me, but why not take all the precautions I can?

And, yes, I plan on getting a smaller trailer in the future. But right now, I'm building a house and have to haul 16' lumber. Besides, I paid $200 for it 12 years ago, and the only money I have in it is 2 sets of lights and registrations.



Countless trips to the dump. Hauled 4 Harleys to the Keys. And still going strong. Everybody borrows it. And it gets parked in it's own garage. Until I put the garage door on. Then the hard top is finding a new home.
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SD, there is no "stock cooler" it's an auto tranny fluid line that loops thru the bottom of the A/C condenser-it doesn't get anywhere near the radiator-


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So... your stock cooler has an aux cooler which has it's own aux cooler?

How much extra fluid did you have to add?

The reason I ask is, I was using my 7.5 X 12 foot utility trailer yesterday to haul a dresser for an elderly lady (90+) that my wife helps on the weekends. Near the end of the trip, up and down 2 Causeways, I noticed a "hot motor" smell. I'm not positive it was me, but why not take all the precautions I can?

And, yes, I plan on getting a smaller trailer in the future. But right now, I'm building a house and have to haul 16' lumber. Besides, I paid $200 for it 12 years ago, and the only money I have in it is 2 sets of lights and registrations.



Countless trips to the dump. Hauled 4 Harleys to the Keys. And still going strong. Everybody borrows it. And it gets parked in it's own garage. Until I put the garage door on. Then the hard top is finding a new home.
So, I have an 18,000 GVW aux cooler mtd in front of the condenser and a 500cc-finned alum aux cooler, mounted above my Elocker motor, both are IN LINE from the tranny "HOT LINE" (bottom), to the tranny "COOL LINE" (top) and The stock JKU (warmer) cooler is outta the loop and is just retired !!

You can add the aux cooler if front of the condenser for about $75 bucks and a LOTTA guys do that--works fine-

Mine took an additional 6to 8 oz of ATF-4-

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SD, there is no "stock cooler" it's an auto tranny fluid line that loops thru the bottom of the A/C condenser-it doesn't get anywhere near the radiator-
Let me see if I have this correct. Your install completely bypassed all this?

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You can add the aux cooler if front of the condenser for about $75 bucks and a LOTTA guys do that--works fine-

Mine took an additional 6to 8 oz of ATF-4-

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So... You have it set up straight from tranny to new cooler(s) and back to tranny? Completely bypassing the A/C condenser connections? Would there be any benefit to leave that in-line?

Thanks for the info. As hot as it is here, I really have to look into this. I'm not hauling heavy loads, but the causeways really put a hurting on me. My trailer is bigger than my JK.
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Heh Heh, yup, I've bypassed all the stock JKU auto tranny cool equipt., but it's totally worthless anyway-except-


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Let me see if I have this correct. Your install completely bypassed all this?



So... You have it set up straight from tranny to new cooler(s) and back to tranny? Completely bypassing the A/C condenser connections? Would there be any benefit to leave that in-line?

Thanks for the info. As hot as it is here, I really have to look into this. I'm not hauling heavy loads, but the causeways really put a hurting on me. My trailer is bigger than my JK.
If there is tranny trouble-then I've VOIDED my warranty, as far as the tranny goes--but after operating/towing/hill climbing for over 2 years, the tranny has never gotten over 200 ° (especially now with the regear) and the optimum op temp for the 42rle is 180° F-

It's not uncommon for the stock auto-under load, to reach 300° F and the ATF-4 flash point is 374°- the failures/fires that have happened (a couple) have been from the fluid boiling outta the dipstick and falling down on the passenger side exhaust manifold--

It's actually kinda rare, but it ain't gonna happen to me-see the XJ/TJ autos used the radiator bottom for auto tranny cooling (detroit has forever)-I think Chrysler hired a couple outta work Iraq "used camel" salesmen" to design the JK cooling sys !!!!


-This will all change with the new "jesus" engine and 5sp auto--

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It's not uncommon for the stock auto-under load, to reach 300° F and the ATF-4 flash point is 374°- the failures/fires that have happened (a couple) have been from the fluid boiling outta the dipstick and falling down on the passenger side exhaust manifold--

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I think that is where i get the "hot motor" smell.

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Hi all,

This is Dave Williams - owner, designer, and builder of our trailers. I noticed a spike in referrals to our website from wranglerforum.com and wanted to check it out. I found this thread with a reference back to a contest we supported earlier in the year. A few comments about our business and specifically about some of the comments made in this thread.

I have owned a TJ since HS, and still own it

We are active in the offroad community and build our trailers truly to be taken off road.

While our prices may seem high if you compare them to any of our competitors you will find that we are at the low end of price and high end of value.

I design each trailer interactively with the client and then hand build them. There is literally nothing that cannot be altered. Since we don't use jigs, pre-fabs, molds, etc., we are only limited by imagination (and budget).

I use the highest quality components. Example: BFG AT 33s as stock tire, 3500 axles, ultra lube hubs, etc.

The material costs alone, especially with the cost of US made steel, are higher than most folks would guess.


I appreciate the opportunity to post and would be happy to answer any questions including any from folks who wish to fab their own.

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Hi Dave,
I inquired about a week ago. Jen informed me you are totally booked with builds for 2011 and into 2012, she said my trailer would be ready spring 2012.
I am sure your trailers are great, but a year wait is too long for me.
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^X3 on the M416. They match up with the JK very well and you'll hardly know your pulling it. Also X2 on the Maxcoupler...it is the only way to go. Just be careful, like the Jeep, the trailer mods start emptying the pocket quick.
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some very nice trailers in here. If I was to build and offroad trailer, I'd probably start with a HF 4x4' trailer and upgrade it from there. I can find those usually new (with coupons) for under $200. I own their HD 4x8" and I paid $300 out the door for it.
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No offense to anyone, but a trailer that bolts together, will not last off-road. It will need continous maintenance and beefing up. Just sayin'

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