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Old 02-19-2013, 01:31 PM   #91
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Guys, I ordered a pair of the non-projector type mentioned in the thread. I'm the guinea pig... I'll let you know how it goes.

2X 3157 3156 White 12W High Power Samsung 2323 Car LED Light Bulbs DRL Backup | eBay
These are NOT cree LEDs...they are simply SMD LEDs.....they do not put out that much light. CREE LEDs are the kind used by rigid industries in their lights. SMD leds are used for accent lighting, not direct lighting. They are also pointed to the sides, not out the back.


Guys, pay attention, I know these ebay adds are full of fluff, so make you the description says CREE LEDs and AT LEAST 1 Cree LED is facing forward.

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These are NOT cree LEDs...they are simply SMD LEDs.....they do not put out that much light. CREE LEDs are the kind used by rigid industries in their lights. SMD leds are used for accent lighting, not direct lighting. They are also pointed to the sides, not out the back.

Guys, pay attention, I know these ebay adds are full of fluff, so make you the description says CREE LEDs and AT LEAST 1 Cree LED is facing forward.
Thank you for clarifying this. Much appreciated.

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These are NOT cree LEDs...they are simply SMD LEDs.....they do not put out that much light. CREE LEDs are the kind used by rigid industries in their lights. SMD leds are used for accent lighting, not direct lighting. They are also pointed to the sides, not out the back.

Guys, pay attention, I know these ebay adds are full of fluff, so make you the description says CREE LEDs and AT LEAST 1 Cree LED is facing forward.
So what Cree led options are there?
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:18 PM   #94
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So what Cree led options are there?
Ive been happy with the ones I've posted in the first page. Just search CREE 3157 and see what you get.

These are the ones I run
2pcs 3157 3156 White CREE Q5 5W LED 12 5050 SMD Backup Light Bulbs w Lens | eBay
These are without a "projector" and may be a tad wider, but not quite as far-throwing....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pair-of-5-Wa...f3b784&vxp=mtr
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Guys, I ordered a pair of the non-projector type mentioned in the thread. I'm the guinea pig... I'll let you know how it goes.

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Can't wait to hear back from you
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You guys who installed the 2pcs 3157 3156 White CREE Q5 5W LED 12 5050 SMD Backup Light Bulbs w Lens | eBay, did you have to put a resistor on the circuit?

I havent got my Saumsung ones yet, but from NFRs2000NYC's response, I dont have high hopes for them. I'll report what happens when I do. I thought there was some sort of parabolic reflector in there. I guess not.
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[QUOTE="brycero"]You guys who installed the 2pcs 3157 3156 White CREE Q5 5W LED 12 5050 SMD Backup Light Bulbs w Lens | eBay, did you have to put a resistor on the circuit?

No resistors required. Just plug & play!
And more usable light than stock.
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You guys who installed the 2pcs 3157 3156 White CREE Q5 5W LED 12 5050 SMD Backup Light Bulbs w Lens | eBay, did you have to put a resistor on the circuit?

I havent got my Saumsung ones yet, but from NFRs2000NYC's response, I dont have high hopes for them. I'll report what happens when I do. I thought there was some sort of parabolic reflector in there. I guess not.
You don't need any form of resistors. They work just fine. Plug and play baby.
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You guys who installed the 2pcs 3157 3156 White CREE Q5 5W LED 12 5050 SMD Backup Light Bulbs w Lens | eBay, did you have to put a resistor on the circuit?

I havent got my Saumsung ones yet, but from NFRs2000NYC's response, I dont have high hopes for them. I'll report what happens when I do. I thought there was some sort of parabolic reflector in there. I guess not.
Nope. They worked perfectly.
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Just thought I'd let you guys know, I ordered these 2pcs 3157 3156 White CREE Q5 5W LED 12 5050 SMD Backup Light Bulbs w Lens | eBay and made a few low ball offers they rejected but they DID accept my last offer which was 24.99. It might take one more day before you can place your order but I'm not in a hurry and its cool to save 5 bucks!

Now off to find more things to buy for my Jeep that isn't even built yet!
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Thanks Paleh0rse, overtblown and NFRs2000NYC. I'll get those too and put up a pic of the two i got and the difference.
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Ok, guys, I have the results:
I replaced the driver side with the 2X 3157 3156 White 12W High Power Samsung 2323 Car LED Light Bulbs DRL Backup | eBay (I'll refer to this as the Samsung bulb going forward) first, then the passenger side with the 2pcs 3157 3156 White CREE Q5 5W LED 12 5050 SMD Backup Light Bulbs w Lens | eBay (I'll refer to this as the projector from here out). I took overblown's advice and offered 24.99 for the projector bulbs and they took it (thanks, overblown).

The first comparison is the stock vs the Samsung
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I realized that just taking a picture of the rear of the JK was not evidence enough because the projector may have been aimed at me, I took these comparisons as well:
This is one stock bulb as it lights up my messy garage (I'm standing in front of the Samsung tail light at the moment):
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Now I am standing in front of the tail light with the stock bulb:
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Now I have put in the projector in the passenger side, so I took this standing in front of the Samsung tail light:
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I'll leave you to your own conclusions, but a final thought is that if I could get the projector to aim a bit down, I think that would be ideal, since I do not really need to see the tree tops, just the road. I would rather have more light at the ground behind, to the left, and right of the JK than providing reading light to the ISS. If there is a bulb that was more like a wide angle lens, I think that would be perfect.

Another note, these pics were taken without the Rugged Ridge black Euro tail light guards in place. This particular tail light guard has a bar going right across the reverse light bulb, so I have a reduction in light output from this poor design. I guess I'll just have to buy a back bumper with lights to make up the difference. So sad...
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So you got two projectors for 24.99? Those make a HIGE difference. Would be nice to have them aimed further down like you said, but might be worth adding to my growing wishlist of mods :-)
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So you got two projectors for 24.99? Those make a HIGE difference. Would be nice to have them aimed further down like you said, but might be worth adding to my growing wishlist of mods :-)
That is correct, per overblown's directions, if you offer them 24.99 (and I tried 23.99, but they wouldnt take it), they'll sell it to you for that price.
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I'm pretty sure krauto has them now too, Krautoparts.com
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I concur with the above photos. Clearly, the projectors are far brighter, however, they focus the light more for throw than scatter. For reverse lights, I would rather have a "flood" beam rather than a "spot" beam....but IMHO, still better than stock.
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Here is a thought that I am going to try to my lights.....the projector in front of the LED is clear right? We all agree that more scatter is what we want right? Look at the rigid industries D2s. You see how the driving and spot lenses are clear but the flood is diffused? I'm thinking of taking some sandpaper and clouding up the projector....that should provide a bit more scatter and hopefully, some more light towards the ground as well.
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I heard CREE LED's can generate alot more heat than SMD LED's. I wonder if its safe to use in the tail light housing?
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I heard CREE LED's can generate alot more heat than SMD LED's. I wonder if its safe to use in the tail light housing?
I don't think it should be a problem because they have a pretty large heat sink built in to them, and I don't plan on ever being in reverse for long enough to melt anything.
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You should see how much heat the incandescent bulbs generate. The LED lights don't make me nearly the heat they do so the overall temperature in the house and get to come down
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Here is a thought that I am going to try to my lights.....the projector in front of the LED is clear right? We all agree that more scatter is what we want right? Look at the rigid industries D2s. You see how the driving and spot lenses are clear but the flood is diffused? I'm thinking of taking some sandpaper and clouding up the projector....that should provide a bit more scatter and hopefully, some more light towards the ground as well.
Keep us posted on whether that works or not. Might also try applying a film like this: Amazon.com: Kittrich Rolled Adhesive Bookcover, 18 Inches x 9 Feet, Clear, 1 Roll (03-750-12): Office Products if you think i t wouldn't melt?
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I heard CREE LED's can generate alot more heat than SMD LED's. I wonder if its safe to use in the tail light housing?
They are still cooler than a regular bulb. Don't worry about it.
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They are still cooler than a regular bulb. Don't worry about it.
And much brighter than stock
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Here is a thought that I am going to try to my lights.....the projector in front of the LED is clear right? We all agree that more scatter is what we want right? Look at the rigid industries D2s. You see how the driving and spot lenses are clear but the flood is diffused? I'm thinking of taking some sandpaper and clouding up the projector....that should provide a bit more scatter and hopefully, some more light towards the ground as well.
I would suggest going the film route or something else that is a little less permanent... just in case it didn't work. Great idea, though, and I can't wait to see the results!
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I would suggest going the film route or something else that is a little less permanent... just in case it didn't work. Great idea, though, and I can't wait to see the results!
Well, I've been building audio systems (for show cars) for a long time, and whenever we wanted the plexiglass to glow and diffuse the light, we would scuff it up, so the theory is sound. I guess I can try it by placing a piece of scuffed plexi over the light just to see if the effect works in this application.
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Brycero, thanks for the pics. I haven't got my JK yet so I can't install. They are definitely a huge improvement over stock but you are right about the aiming.

Z-TJ those sound interesting too. Please post the results and some pictures if you can!
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You wouldn't mind posting some close up pics of that would you? I bought the $30 eBay lights and while they are whiter light, I don't think they are that much brighter. The light is more focused and has less spill IMO. I would be interested in knowing more about how you did the Rigid's. Do they come on with a switch or when you are in reverse? What problems you encountered, detailed photo's etc. if you have some time of course.
They come on when you put it in reverse and also Manually with a switch. The complete install is in the link below

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Installed the V3 Tritons 3156/3157. Quality made for sure. There plug & play. Much brighter than stock. Only negative is there is an additional socket adapter. This adds then of course a possible problem with another connector. Wattage rating is same as stock. Operating hours are stated at 50,000. Long time! Wife likes them. Costlier though.
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Waiting on my CREE 5 W that I ordered Monday. Should have them Friday I will report back. Thanks for the tips on $ offer and the pictures, I should be in good shape combined with my back up camera. I was going to do the four inch recessed bumper light mod, but I'm holding off to see if these new bulbs do the trick. I do like that rampage recovery bumper which would solve the problem also............

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