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Old 12-08-2010, 07:14 PM   #31
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maybe it be a V6...

Cummins is currently developing a V8 & V6 diesel engine for Dodge's half ton trucks. It is unknown when the 1500 Ram will receive a diesel, but Chrysler has chosen Cummins to design and manufacture a light duty diesel for applications smaller than the 2500 & 3500 Ram. Here is a sneak peak at the V6 being designed as a half ton diesel.

Disclaimer: Very little information has been released on the Cummins V6. Much of the information that has surfaced is speculation, especially performance data. This page will be updated frequently as more exact specifications are released by the manufacturer, so be sure to check back.

Rumor of The Moment: The release date of the V6 Cummins has been pushed back; the engine is still in development though prototypes are being tested.

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Manufacturer: Cummins
Configuration: V6, 90-degree
Displacement: 4.2 liters, 256 cubic inches
Head Material: aluminum heads
Block Material: iron block
Bore: 3.70 inches
Stroke: 3.94 inches
Turbocharger: single variable geometry turbocharger (VGT)
Fuel System: Common rail, direct injection
Engine Weight: 663 lbs.
Horsepower: 270 hp @ 3,800 RPM
Torque: 420 lb-ft. @ 1,700 RPM
Intended Applications: 1/2 ton Dodge Ram 1500, Dodge Durango,
Fuel Mileage (est): 22.1 mpg combined city & highway driving (44% improvement). 25 mpg highway, 20 mpg city.

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Eeeek aluminum headed diesel
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Old 12-08-2010, 11:09 PM   #34
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Those aren't good mpg numbers for a diesel.
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Old 12-09-2010, 11:52 AM   #35
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still, a great engine, yes i am green with envy, what is diesel costing over there now?
You might want to sit down before you read this. I won't be held responsible for anybody fainting.

Diesel is 1.22 per litre on average which equals 5.55 per gallon which equals $8.75 per gallon at current exchange rates.

You think you have high prices over in the US, I was amazed when I filled up my rental car in Las Vegas and it cost me peanuts.

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Yes they're making six door model and it will have a five liter diesel

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that diesel is really not much of an improvement over a hemi. a tad bit more torque, but considerably less horsepower.
the mileage isn't good enough to justify the loss in horsepower. same problem i have with the smart car. the mileage isn't good enough to justify how awful the car is.
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that diesel is really not much of an improvement over a hemi. a tad bit more torque, but considerably less horsepower.
the mileage isn't good enough to justify the loss in horsepower. same problem i have with the smart car. the mileage isn't good enough to justify how awful the car is.
Torque: 420 lb-ft. @ 1,700 RPM
there is not a hemi made that gives that much torque below 2000 rpm. Perfect for big tires and offroading
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cept when you need tire speed
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I did read up on a fellow who installed a cummins 4BT into a samarai or geo tracker or something like that.... That b series cummins is a bullet proof one (Having used many in marine appplications). I would love to see a 6BT (210 HP 440 torque...) YAH! in my Jeep.
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cept when you need tire speed
Horsepower: 270 hp @ 3,800 RPM
It's good for at least 3,800 RPM....that a high number for a diesel...plenty of tire spin
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that diesel is really not much of an improvement over a hemi. a tad bit more torque, but considerably less horsepower.
the mileage isn't good enough to justify the loss in horsepower. same problem i have with the smart car. the mileage isn't good enough to justify how awful the car is.
Torque is more important to jeep driving than horsepower. The diesel beats the hemi hands down
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Torque is more important to jeep driving than horsepower. The diesel beats the hemi hands down
Horsepower is just pub talk. There's a famous saying, 'Horsepower sells engines, torque wins races'. Horsepower is good for high speed, torque gets you there quickly.

I have 170bhp but 302 lb.ft torque.
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MAybe for you 3800 is enough, but see how that works when you find some deep mud and can't clean your tires out
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You might want to sit down before you read this. I won't be held responsible for anybody fainting.

Diesel is 1.22 per litre on average which equals 5.55 per gallon which equals $8.75 per gallon at current exchange rates.

You think you have high prices over in the US, I was amazed when I filled up my rental car in Las Vegas and it cost me peanuts.

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Eeeek aluminum headed diesel
i wouldn't be afraid of anything cummins puts out. duramax has used alum. heads and they are now pretty good.
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cause its a ford engine
its a navistar engine. ford had about as much to do with building the 6.0 as they did with building your jeep.

a 5 liter v8 diesel would weigh way to much. im guessing you'd need at least a d 60 to suport it. so basically not going to happen.. ever. ive seen a few tjs with the 4bt 3.9l and they are really over powered. somthing even smaller would be ideal.
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its a navistar engine. ford had about as much to do with building the 6.0 as they did with building your jeep.

a 5 liter v8 diesel would weigh way to much. im guessing you'd need at least a d 60 to suport it. so basically not going to happen.. ever. ive seen a few tjs with the 4bt 3.9l and they are really over powered. somthing even smaller would be ideal.
Navistar is a International brand who makes the Powerstroke for Ford,
These are new Cummins v6 and v8 engines. Yes Cummins is owned by Ford, but it is not the same as Navistar.
663 pounds for the V6 sounds reasonable in a JKU
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Cummins is not owned by Ford

Please stop spreading this false rumors for years and years.
Here is a Major Holder list. I don't see Ford in there.
CMI Major Holders | Cummins Inc. Common Stock Stock - Yahoo! Finance
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Yep cause if they did, they woulda had the 6bt in the trucks along time ago. I love the 7.3's, but anything after that they can keep.
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Please stop spreading this false rumors for years and years.
Here is a Major Holder list. I don't see Ford in there.
CMI Major Holders | Cummins Inc. Common Stock Stock - Yahoo! Finance
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thanks for the correction that was a rumor i have heard for years
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Navistar is a International brand who makes the Powerstroke for Ford,
These are new Cummins v6 and v8 engines. Yes Cummins is owned by Ford, but it is not the same as Navistar.
663 pounds for the V6 sounds reasonable in a JKU
yes in know. i was replying to the other guy who said the jeep in the video had a ford engine not the op. the 6.0 is not made for ford. they are used in a wide variety of applications. the 6.0s in fords are different and most would argue made with weaker parts.



to clear up the cummins ford thing, just go to cummins website and look under FAQ. it says right there ford owned a small amount of shares in the 80s and only for a few years. they were never a controlling party in the company.
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i want to see how this diesel does pulling a heavy trailer at highway speeds. passing, uphill grades, etc. i'll reserve full judgment until then. like was mentioned, torque is great for low speed crawling, but there are situation where wheel speed is needed, especially in a big wheelbase pickup. not saying it can't hold its own, but again, what will the price difference be over the hemi and will it be worth it in the real world?
i will say it's about DAMN time someone is putting a diesel in the lighter frame trucks. they should have done this 15 years ago.

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