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Old 03-01-2012, 10:38 PM   #1
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wash/wax question

had my white sahara a week now, time for a wash. Can i get some advice on products (looking at wolfgang). Also when is a good time to wax it, now or wait a few months since its brand new? do you guys wax every few months and then just wash/dry/gloss every week or so?
any info would be great thanks again everyone

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It is fine to wax it now the paint has already cured. I typically wax my vehicle once every 2 months. The wax will protect the vehicle on and off road. I use a collinite wax and it is amazing! You apply it with a wet sponge and wipe it off with a dry terry cloth. You can do the whole Jeep in about 20 minutes.
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what color? this department is my specialty, but depends on what color your jeep is for what products to recommend.
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hey bigmike its a white 4door sahara with white hardtop..
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with white you dont need to use anything special, id def use a polymer based wax "tougher wax" I recommend meguiers for polymer , they last longer then carnauba but dont usually give the depth that carnauba gives. Your truck being white that doesnt really matter. every 2 weeks is when i usually wax, carnuaba if you dont take care of it usually lasts about 30 days. i keep it up with the wax as you dry spray wax stuff in the down time "stuff actually works very well". You could get away with waxing every 2 months, i recommend hitting the paint with a cleaner wax prior to whichever you use.

As far as washing. i use a microfiber mit, i rinse the mit off constantly while i wash cause im anal about dirt getting trapped in it, bucket with a grate in the bottom of it "so the mit doesnt sit in dirt" and i usually use either blue coral or turtle wax zipwax car wash, i feel those 2 sud the best. then i dry with a couple terrycloth towels i usually hit it with the spray wax. After dry i go over with a microfiber towel and spray detailer if necessary. hope this helps
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Here is an alternative to using a wash mit. Invest in a Shurhold 6" extra soft brush and handle. Used these on my gell coat boats and vehicles for years. No worries of grinding something into the paint and makes the washing job much faster and easier.
I love the Collinite on my boats but be carefull on the Jeep with all the black plastic as it will stain. I bought some of the Turtle Wax Ice that many promote on this site. Very easy to use and wont stain the plastic but lacks the shine and durability of Collinite.
The 303 is very good for the plastic and rubber, just make sure you work it in till dry.
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had my white sahara a week now, time for a wash. Can i get some advice on products (looking at wolfgang). Also when is a good time to wax it, now or wait a few months since its brand new? do you guys wax every few months and then just wash/dry/gloss every week or so?
any info would be great thanks again everyone
Which Wolfgang products are you looking at? They're good stuff, but definitely a premium cost as well. Their Spritz Sealant (basically a spray wax) is VERY easy to use though and should last similar to the normal version of the sealant (around 6 months). I think I did the whole Jeep including the hard top, headlights, and wheels in about 20 minutes. The only thing I didn't use it on was the fenders, bumpers, and mirrors which get 303.
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Old 03-02-2012, 07:43 AM   #9
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this will answer mamy of your questions....

Auto Detailing Facts, auto detailing Tips, How to detailing Guides, how to polish, how to wax, DIY detailing, do it yourself guides

i love the new BLACKFIRE line of products. the polish & seal is amazing! one step. your paint is cleaned and sealed.

on the trim, i use chemical guys new look trim restorer.

here is a pic. just detailed......

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I generally wash/wax mine twice a year, unless I'm in a local parade--

I started with an immediate coat of MOTHERS california CARNUBA "GOLD" cleaner wax and that has protected the paint for over 3 years now-I still useit after wash



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I generally wash/wax mine twice a year, unless I'm in a local parade--

I started with an immediate coat of MOTHERS california CARNUBA "GOLD" cleaner wax and that has protected the paint for over 3 years now-I still useit after wash

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I will tell you is a great product for light color trucks, cars...is Dodo Juice Light Fantastic
Dodo Juice Light Fantastic Soft Wax, Dodo Juice soft waxes, carnauba wax, dodo car wax, wax for light cars, white carnauba wax
and if you want to try it out before you pay $70.00 - you can get it for $13.99
Dodo Juice Light Fantastic Soft Wax, Dodo Juice soft waxes, carnauba wax, dodo car wax, wax for light cars, white carnauba wax
Come back after and hit it with Red Mist - AWESOME product
Tropical Protection Detailer, Dodo juice Detailer, Dodo juice red mist

I have used many waxes and even FUZION and I like Dodo better...Arctic has used Blackfire and he has some awesome results...

If you want the BEST bang for your buck - then get Collinite 845 - which has a huge protection and lasts a long time
Collinite Liquid Insulator Wax #845, liquid wax, heat-resistant wax, car wax

As far as waxing it - remember it is the prep which is the most important step in the process, not the LSP (Last step product - wax or sealant) When I picked up my new Jeep I needed to polish it and clean the paint. You will have to do that also.
So wash - 2 bucket method
Clay
Polish if needed, or clean the paint
Sealant or Wax

I wax about every 3 months depending on what wax I use. There have been studies that report after two coats of wax, you are not gaining anything...

Also on the trim - UTTG, a little pricey, but LASTS a long time! - and a little GOES A LONG WAY!
http://www.autogeek.net/ultima-tire-trim-guard.html


I hope that helps!
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You can get as into this as you want to. I plan on a full detail this weekend. Starting with was, clay bar, polish, and then wax. I use a Carnuba Wax as I ahve a Red Jeep and like the deep gloss that it provised. You have White, so use a Synthetic Sealant. I have heard great things about Mothers FX. It is also available at local stores for a fairly cheap price. Just remember, nothing lasts forever and it will take intermittent maintenance.

I use So Cal Jax Wax products - they have a store close to me. I detail it about one a month (or as time allows). Nothing like a nice shiny Jeep with the top and doors off, driving around on Saturday night.
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You can get as into this as you want to. I plan on a full detail this weekend. Starting with was, clay bar, polish, and then wax. I use a Carnuba Wax as I ahve a Red Jeep and like the deep gloss that it provised. You have White, so use a Synthetic Sealant. I have heard great things about Mothers FX. It is also available at local stores for a fairly cheap price. Just remember, nothing lasts forever and it will take intermittent maintenance.

I use So Cal Jax Wax products - they have a store close to me. I detail it about one a month (or as time allows). Nothing like a nice shiny Jeep with the top and doors off, driving around on Saturday night.
that socal jax stuff is good stuff, just not readily available at most shops, expensive to last time i checked.
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do you guys wax every few months and then just wash/dry/gloss every week or so?
Drive around in the rain, or through a stream. It is a Jeep after all.
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Do not use a brush of any kind and I wouldnt use any terry cloths either atleast not on the paint. Go with good microfibers only (not autozone or walmart). As some have stated its in the prep, get that right first and then your LSP's will protect and shine. Most detailers will use a sealant first (blackfire, etc) then top it with a paste wax. The sealant will last 3-6 months with the wax lasting 1-2 months. So you wont have to seal it everytime you wash.

1st time- Wash clay polish ( use a 1000 watt halogen to check your work) wash again, glaze (optional), sealant, wax (you can just use 2 coats of sealant with no wax)

1 month later- wash and wax (you may want to clay depending on your driving habits)

A lot of the OTC- over the counter waxes are actually sealants - meguires etc.

This can get very expensive if you want to do it right. I first thought I was doing good spending $70 at autozone and now have about $600 invested in detailing supplies.
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Arctic and Jimbo - do you clay bar/polish/wax over the black hood decal or work around it?
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Arctic and Jimbo - do you clay bar/polish/wax over the black hood decal or work around it?
worked around it. you can use a spray detailer on it.
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I just wax aroundit--not to tough either, it's tough stuff, but !


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Never have used soap of any type to wash vehicles. Two mitts. One for the lower areas, one for the upper areas. No bucket, just mitt and flowing water. Soap has a degreasing agent that sucks the life out of rubber, plastics and paint. Ever see the rubber gaskets around windows and trim all cracked? Soap sucks the oils out that keep them stable. Also without soap you do not have to wax as often because you are not breaking down the wax with chemicals which soaps contain.
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Jeeps look better with dirt and grime on them in moderate amounts. I've owned mine for close to 4 months and only washed it twice.
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Never have used soap of any type to wash vehicles. Two mitts. One for the lower areas, one for the upper areas. No bucket, just mitt and flowing water. Soap has a degreasing agent that sucks the life out of rubber, plastics and paint. Ever see the rubber gaskets around windows and trim all cracked? Soap sucks the oils out that keep them stable. Also without soap you do not have to wax as often because you are not breaking down the wax with chemicals which soaps contain.
Good point, soap (dawn) is good though when you are wanting to start over and get the wax off. Wont hurt to use it once a year but I wouldnt use it more then that
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They do make auto soap, designed for plastics/clear coat and rubber safety, but

Even though I only wash mine generally twice a year--

I do the same thing CC does--use a mitt and the wax wipes dirt/grime clean--don't need soap nomo !

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I just use whatevers at the local power washer.
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I used to do the whole Zaino regine but I'm too lazy now. Mostly use Turtlewax ice and spray detailer in between washes if not too dirty.
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Arctic and Jimbo - do you clay bar/polish/wax over the black hood decal or work around it?
I just turned in my mustang which had the black matte stripe on the hood, roof, deck lid - I clayed mine, but did not polish or wax it.

I have used so many products to clean and protect it - Mother's Black to Black was horrible - I used UTTG on it and buffed it off, worked well. Then I found this product: Chemical Guys Meticulous Matte Detailer 16 oz.
This worked awesome on it and also used it on my matte black wheels...
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Never have used soap of any type to wash vehicles. Two mitts. One for the lower areas, one for the upper areas. No bucket, just mitt and flowing water. Soap has a degreasing agent that sucks the life out of rubber, plastics and paint. Ever see the rubber gaskets around windows and trim all cracked? Soap sucks the oils out that keep them stable. Also without soap you do not have to wax as often because you are not breaking down the wax with chemicals which soaps contain.

That only applies to stuff like using Dawn/etc. to wash with. A good high quality car washing "soap" will not strip the wax/sealant. Some even have additives to refresh it and put some gloss back (though they can be streaky to dry in some cases).

The other alternative is the new rinseless washes which are completely different. They contain none of the same "soap" compounds that even the high quality washes do. Instead they are designed to pick up and encapsulate the dirt so it doesn't scratch, but then you directly dry the panel after washing it. No rinsing first.

You can use it on some pretty dirty vehicles, but if it's been off-road you will want to pressure wash off the mud and grime first. If you are just washing normal DD grime instead of a vehicle that's been off-road (i.e. you don't need to rinse junk off and are starting with a dry vehicle) you can literally wash with 3 gallons of water. Great for states with water restrictions.

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