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Old 06-11-2012, 10:20 PM   #31
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Not sure about TX. In VA both open carry (no permit required) and concealed carry (permit required) is allowed. My understanding of the law in VA is that concealing from common view while readily accessible is "concealed" (requiring a permit). Using that definition I wouldn't carry in that pocket without a permit in any state that has a similar definition of "concealed".
Sorry to get on a soap box, but if this video doesn't bring a tear to your eye regarding the so called government of the USA I do not know what will.

Dr. Suzzy Hupp witnessed both of her parents getting shot at a Luby's here in Texas.

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Thank you for that intelligent response. I had the RR neoprene seat covers and they were NOT waterproof.
Sorry daggo, wrong thread.

I thought you were arguing about the Giants repeating.

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Sorry to get on a soap box, but if this video doesn't bring a tear to your eye regarding the so called government of the USA I do not know what will.

Dr. Suzzy Hupp witnessed both of her parents getting shot at a Luby's here in Texas.

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Saw her speak at a rally in PA. Very moving story.
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Sorry daggo, wrong thread.

I thought you were arguing about the Giants repeating.
Nah, I wouldn't argue that. Defending a Superbowl championbship is extremely difficult. They will be tough though because Eli is entering his prime.
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Here's the waterproof testing.

Wet Okole Waterproof? - YouTube

Does anyone know why I cant embed these things?
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Saw her speak at a rally in PA. Very moving story.
Yeah, She is a "True Patriot" in my book. She is one of my hero's. I have "JESUS", G. Gorden Liddy, Martin Luther King Jr. Ollie North and very few others, but Suzzy Hupp is on my "A" list for sure.

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<iframe width="560" height="315" src="Wet Okole Waterproof? - YouTube" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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I've got leather seats in my 2012 Rubicon Unlimited (Didn't want leather but had no choice as late as I bought the Jeep) so I'm looking for some good waterproof seat covers. I don't see how neoprene is waterproof when you still get wet when wearing a wetsuit. Are there any good waterproof seat covers out there that will fit the 2012 unlimited seats and fit snugly? I heard the seat covers by Bestop are wonderful but can't find any that fit my Jeep . Can anyone offer advice?

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I am still not getting why leather is a worse choice then cloth?

Won't cloth just soak right through and start to smell after multiple rain storms?
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Ok, Thanks, but in the State of Texas, or any other State that is not consealed! No loss on your part, just saved you from getting busted is all. Consealed means nobody can see it?

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In TX you can have your gun in your car withOUT a CHL...if you are a law abiding citizen. You can also use deadly force if you feel your life is in danger (ex. shooting someone while they attempt to rob you while you are in your vehicle)

Eventually I will go and get my CHL, but until then it's riding shotgun...no pun intended.
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I am still not getting why leather is a worse choice then cloth?

Won't cloth just soak right through and start to smell after multiple rain storms?
I'm just not a huge fan of leather...it's easier to clean but once it starts to crack from sun damage etc it makes the vehicle look much much older in my opinion. Not to mention it gets scratched an torn up by the dogs claws. I guess with leather I just want to keep it looking new and that won't happen if I leave the top off in the sun or it gets caught in a rain shower. So if I get good waterproof seat covers it keeps looking great so when I go to trade it in someday it helps my value.
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In TX you can have your gun in your car withOUT a CHL...if you are a law abiding citizen. You can also use deadly force if you feel your life is in danger (ex. shooting someone while they attempt to rob you while you are in your vehicle)

Eventually I will go and get my CHL, but until then it's riding shotgun...no pun intended.
A CHL is great for purchasing and if you want to carry on your person. Some places are still prohibited but it's nice to have the option as the criminals carry regardless of what others think.

I carry for a living so I feel naked without one. It's rare I don't have one on me but if I don't it's at least close by.
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Are Wet Okole Seat covers truly waterproof?

There are areas where water could leak. Cut-outs for seat belts, buttons, headrest posts are essentially holes and water will leak through a hole. Standing water will also eventually leak through seams. Wet Okole seat covers will protect your seats from wet bathing suits, wet suits, and other summer and winter sports clothing that gets wet in normal use.

So, sounds like they are not exactly "waterproof" either.
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Are Wet Okole Seat covers truly waterproof?

There are areas where water could leak. Cut-outs for seat belts, buttons, headrest posts are essentially holes and water will leak through a hole. Standing water will also eventually leak through seams. Wet Okole seat covers will protect your seats from wet bathing suits, wet suits, and other summer and winter sports clothing that gets wet in normal use.

So, sounds like they are not exactly "waterproof" either.
the first statement made was that neoprene wasnt waterproof.

the point I made was that the neoprene is waterproof. The stitches where the needles make tiny holes may let a fraction of the total water through.
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After! IGGEE!!!! I really like these! Waterproof!!
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Are Wet Okole Seat covers truly waterproof?

There are areas where water could leak. Cut-outs for seat belts, buttons, headrest posts are essentially holes and water will leak through a hole. Standing water will also eventually leak through seams. Wet Okole seat covers will protect your seats from wet bathing suits, wet suits, and other summer and winter sports clothing that gets wet in normal use.

So, sounds like they are not exactly "waterproof" either.
Thanks, hadn't read that but it does make since. Still sound better than just the plain ole neoprene seat cover though.
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For those who have the Iggees.....When I think of "synthetic leather" I think of something like Naugahyde or vinyl-like material which is not what I want. What exactly does it feel like? Does it breath at all? How well does it hold up to abrasion, or that screwdriver that I'm going to forget is in my back pocket?
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What about the AEV Cordura seat covers , The video shows them to be waterproof. And made of 1000 Cordura , Very strong stuff.

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What about the AEV Cordura seat covers , The video shows them to be waterproof. And made of 1000 Cordura , Very strong stuff.

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I have them. I did a review thread:

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/aev...ew-145450.html

Maybe not as aesthetically pleasing as some of the other covers, but very durable and functional... and waterproof.
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Just curious...are the AEV Cordura Seats anything like Marathon Seat Covers?

No offense but those AEV's look a bit sloppy. Marathons are on my wish list, but I was hoping for a better fit.
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I've been looking at the Wet Okole covers for my JKU, and after getting off the phone with them, decided they can go pound sand.

I wanted the seat covers in "color match" plus half piping. But I wanted the headrests to be black with full piping, and I would have also liked to logo in color match on the headrests instead of the seat (never even asked them about that).

The furthest I got with the "Customer Service" rep was, "You have to order the color match seat and head rest, and then order an extra set of headrests with the piping that you want." So these seat covers are nearly three times as expensive as their competitors, are "custom made" and I have to buy extra headrests to get the color combo I want? They have pics of a Jeep with the exact combo I want in their gallery and the rep said, "Yes, they had to order an extra set of head rests." That is total BS. I can't even find a price for just the head rests, and I'd need four of them. I'm sure that would be at least $100. In other words you need to buy $xxx of headrests that you know you don't want, nor will you use, and spend an additional $xxx to get the ones you want.

After doing a lot of searching on the internet, it looks like people who have them rate them highly (but is that because they were so expensive, did they try anything else, what did they compare them too?), but their customer service got extremely low ratings. Now I see why.

If they are "custom made" when ordered, how hard can it be to make the headrests different than the seats? It boggles my mind.

If anyone from Wet Okole is on here, your product may be "great", but with that kind of service I would never purchase from you or your company. I'll buy some that are closer to what I want at around half the price and use the money I save to buy some other goodie for my Jeep.

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With that said, can anyone recommend a good alternative to the Wet Okole covers? I'll probably hit up a couple of local upholstery shops and see what they can do as well. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
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I've been looking at the Wet Okole covers for my JKU, and after getting off the phone with them, decided they can go pound sand.

I wanted the seat covers in "color match" plus half piping. But I wanted the headrests to be black with full piping, and I would have also liked to logo in color match on the headrests instead of the seat (never even asked them about that).

The furthest I got with the "Customer Service" rep was, "You have to order the color match seat and head rest, and then order an extra set of headrests with the piping that you want." So these seat covers are nearly three times as expensive as their competitors, are "custom made" and I have to buy extra headrests to get the color combo I want? They have pics of a Jeep with the exact combo I want in their gallery and the rep said, "Yes, they had to order an extra set of head rests." That is total BS. I can't even find a price for just the head rests, and I'd need four of them. I'm sure that would be at least $100. In other words you need to buy $xxx of headrests that you know you don't want, nor will you use, and spend an additional $xxx to get the ones you want.

After doing a lot of searching on the internet, it looks like people who have them rate them highly (but is that because they were so expensive, did they try anything else, what did they compare them too?), but their customer service got extremely low ratings. Now I see why.

If they are "custom made" when ordered, how hard can it be to make the headrests different than the seats? It boggles my mind.

If anyone from Wet Okole is on here, your product may be "great", but with that kind of service I would never purchase from you or your company. I'll buy some that are closer to what I want at around half the price and use the money I save to buy some other goodie for my Jeep.

(Breathe) In good, out bad. Serenity Now...

With that said, can anyone recommend a good alternative to the Wet Okole covers? I'll probably hit up a couple of local upholstery shops and see what they can do as well. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
That does seem a bit crazy to me. Being custom I don't know why it would matter if you wanted mismatching headrests. Maybe it is more a technical limitation of their order system and their work around is to order second set of lone headrests? Or maybe the CS rep you talked to didn't have a clue what they were talking about. In either case I don't blame you for not ordering from them after that experience.

I've not owned any seat covers other than WO so I can't fairly compare them to something else but they do seem to be very high quality and I've not been disappointed in what I paid for them. My only sore spot is how freaken long they take to get them. I ordered a set for a truck I had a few years ago and they took about a month, we ordered a set for my wife's JKU and they took about a month, I ordered a set for my JKU on May 17th and they just shipped yesterday meaning it will still be the end of the week until I have them if I'm lucky.

Not really related but maybe this will make you laugh or make you feel a bit better about your CS experience with WO. I called my Jeep dealer last week looking for a price on something. They connected me with parts and the parts guy asked me my year and model. I said I have a 2012 JKU and there was a pause in response and then following was said:

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Does anyone with these Okole seat covers have leather seats and if so do you think they can trap humidity between the covers and the leather? Trying to determine if it will damage the leather long term. Debating just buying some of the seat towels for those hot days.
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Does anyone with these Okole seat covers have leather seats and if so do you think they can trap humidity between the covers and the leather? Trying to determine if it will damage the leather long term. Debating just buying some of the seat towels for those hot days.
Of course they will. Leather, or cloth, but cloth will breath better. I miss the day when I had water proof seats from the factory in my "1983". Just took it to the car wash without a top and sprayed it down with now Worries!

Now we have all of this fancy stuff from the OEM and we have to spend more cash to get back to the basics! Carpet in or out, seat covers or not, skid plates or not, back seat or no back seat? ect... What a PITA!

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Neoprene is waterproof.

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I've got leather seats in my 2012 Rubicon Unlimited (Didn't want leather but had no choice as late as I bought the Jeep) so I'm looking for some good waterproof seat covers. I don't see how neoprene is waterproof when you still get wet when wearing a wetsuit. Are there any good waterproof seat covers out there that will fit the 2012 unlimited seats and fit snugly? I heard the seat covers by Bestop are wonderful but can't find any that fit my Jeep . Can anyone offer advice?

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Neoprene is waterproof, the reason you get wet while using a wet suit is because your suppose to be wet, hence the name. By filling your wet suit with a small amount of water, the waterproof neoprene holds that water inside the suit against your skin. Your body heat heats the water, and keeps you warm.
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I've got leather seats in my 2012 Rubicon Unlimited (Didn't want leather but had no choice as late as I bought the Jeep) so I'm looking for some good waterproof seat covers. I don't see how neoprene is waterproof when you still get wet when wearing a wetsuit. Are there any good waterproof seat covers out there that will fit the 2012 unlimited seats and fit snugly? I heard the seat covers by Bestop are wonderful but can't find any that fit my Jeep . Can anyone offer advice?

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neoprene can be waterproof just check out a DUI Cf line of drysuits..... it's a different type of neoprene..... crushed I think. They probably use the same process for seat covers! good luck!

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