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Old 10-16-2013, 06:53 AM   #1
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Waxing a brand new Jeep (or car in general...)

Hello all,

I know waxing is a pretty taboo subject in the jeep community as is, but I'm hoping to get some opinions and anecdotes from people who have done this.

I ordered my brand new '14 and a week after I got it (so about 3 weeks after it was built) I waxed it. I live in New England, park outside year round and near tons of trees that put sap all over the place. I find wax to be invaluable due to the protection it provides in this regard. It's nice to have my Jeep looking good, but before I get flamed, it's mostly for protection and I think everyone here understands that, especially New Englanders.

Anyways, I came in to work the next day and told a co-worker I did this. He said I shouldn't have waxed it for 6 months because the paint needed to dry. I started freaking out and did three things:

1. emailed someone on this forum who's opinion I trust on such things, who said that it was the most ridiculous thing they ever heard and that new paint is extremely strong right out of the oven (at least from the factory, where it is oven baked)
2. emailed Chrysler who said it was recommended that you wait 4-6 months to wax a new vehicle *(no where to be found in the owner's manual)*
3. scoured the internet which has a vast array of opinions

I am really looking for someone to weigh in who either waxed their jeep the first day they owned it (hopefully someone who bought it right off the truck like I did) and can vouch for the fact that their paint didn't melt off, or someone who knows a lot about paint and whether or not this is true.

As of now, the paint seems fine. Is it gonna start running like Ivan Ooze?

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I just bought a 2014 mid August and I waxed it two weeks after it arrived at the dealer. I checked with a local body shop guy(worked at Lexus for 10 years) that has worked on my other car after some idiot backed into me and he said that the factory bakes the paint at such a high heat anymore that it's dry before it leaves the factory. Also, said that I could go ahead a wax my wife's bumper as well at anytime after I picked her car up.

So, I say wax!

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I heard it is a good idea to wait 4-6 Weeks after a paint job before waxing. I bought my 14 JKUR on 8/26, with a build date of 8/16. I've waxed it twice. First time on 9/16. I've not noticed any problems whatsoever. While not in New England, I'm in KC and we use a lot of salt here, so I wanted good protection for this winter. I think you'll be fine, wax on, wax off!
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I agree with the original forum member that you emailed. I personally filmed the entire front of my '12 days after I took ownership. I also had it waxed not long (around a week) after that (I waited the amount of time that the guy that applied the film). I would stay away from using any "cleaner" waxes for as long as possible, mostly because I think the paint is still a little soft.
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This is a good question. I have always waited until a 6 month to one year period, depending on the season, before waxing a new car or Jeep. The catch is that I don't have any solid reason why. Growing up, I remember my Dad waiting almost a year to wax cars and me getting excited when it was time to help.

It seems silly that paint would need the time to dry, but I will offer one tidbit. At my company, we wrap our promotional vehicles for marketing purposes. We had one in a front end collision two years ago, and the wrapping company asked us to wait at least 3 months before wrapping to avoid damage to the paint. We wrapped it immediately anyways, and the last time it was naked, it looked just fine.

I am also very interested in hearing if anyone knows any of the facts about this.
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Not waxing a car when new was a good idea. 30 years ago. Modern paint with clear coat I wax as soon as possible. Start the protection right away.
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Waxing my jeep makes its skin feel soft as a young womans breast. Just wonderful.
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Old 10-16-2013, 07:44 AM   #8
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Wax away. Did you ever watch a dealer "prep" a new car. I always wax any new car I get in the first week to remove the silicone based junk the dealer smears all over the car. Makes it looks shiny but does not protect. I don't understand the people that tell you the paint needs to dry since the paint has a clear coat layer. And by the way, I don't use wax, I use car polish.
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Also use a clay bar to get rid of any of the rough feel particles out of the clear.
You'd be amazed at how much smoother they feel after using the clay bar on them.
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That old adage of waiting is a load of garbage now. Mine was built 4/1, and I was doing a full paint correction/sealant using clay, my Porter Cable and Menzerna products on 5/1. I've never waited more than a week after taking delivery of a vehicle to put paint protection on. My sealants are polymer though instead of a traditional carnuba based wax. I'm detail obsessed. Doesn't matter how dirty I get my vehicles so long as they are protected and I clean them immediately afterwards.


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Zerin can you list the products you are using? My Jeep is Flame Red I'm can never get a straight answer out of anyone about finding the BEST UV protectant wax. I want to keep my rich red color w/o fading.
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Well, apparently I started a shitstorm .

Thanks a lot for the responses, good to know that my paint isn't gonna melt off like butter.

I'll report back if I have any issues, but honestly my jeep looks beautiful right now.
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Also use a clay bar to get rid of any of the rough feel particles out of the clear.
You'd be amazed at how much smoother they feel after using the clay bar on them.
I do this:

1. clay bar
2. polish
3. wax

supposedly, that's how you're supposed to do it. maybe someone more experienced than me can confirm that.

products I use are: Meguiar's clay bar kit, meguairs ultimate polish, and meguiars ultimate paste wax. $50 at auto zone.

this is the second time waxing a car for me. first was my '13 sahara.
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You can wax it as soon as you drive it home. It would be a good idea to give it a good washing and clay bar it first. But no harm will come to the paint waxing it as soon as you get it home.
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You can wax it as soon as you drive it home. It would be a good idea to give it a good washing and clay bar it first. But no harm will come to the paint waxing it as soon as you get it home.
That's exactly what I did
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Zerin can you list the products you are using? My Jeep is Flame Red I'm can never get a straight answer out of anyone about finding the BEST UV protectant wax. I want to keep my rich red color w/o fading.

I'm in Texas so the sun down here is oppressive. Prior to this Jeep I've had several red Audis which I used the same products I'm using on my Wrangler. Ask 10 people what products they use and you'll likely get 10 different answers. This is what has worked for me though. Keep in mind some of this stuff is for more intensive paint correction. On a newer vehicle you can just claybar, final polish or glaze (if you want) and seal. Polishes aren't sealants, remember that.

Final Polish - Menzerna Final Polish PO85rd Menzerna PO85rd Final Polish

Finishing Glaze - Menzerna PO115C Finishing Glaze - Menzerna Finishing Glaze PO115C

The difference between the two is that the final polish is ever so slightly abrasive where the glaze is not abrasive at all.

Sealer/UV Protection - Menzerna Power Lock - Menzerna Power Lock Polymer Paint Sealant

This stuff is not exactly cheap ($25 for 16oz) but the results are amazing and a little goes a long way. You can layer it on very easily if you need to and the rich deep colors after you are done is amazing. Last a good while as well.

The results are absolutely stunning, especially on darker deeper colors like Red.



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I'm in Texas so the sun down here is oppressive. Prior to this Jeep I've had several red Audis which I used the same products I'm using on my Wrangler. Ask 10 people what products they use and you'll likely get 10 different answers. This is what has worked for me though. Keep in mind some of this stuff is for more intensive paint correction. On a newer vehicle you can just claybar, final polish or glaze (if you want) and seal. Polishes aren't sealants, remember that.

Final Polish - Menzerna Final Polish PO85rd Menzerna PO85rd Final Polish

Finishing Glaze - Menzerna PO115C Finishing Glaze - Menzerna Finishing Glaze PO115C

The difference between the two is that the final polish is ever so slightly abrasive where the glaze is not abrasive at all.

Sealer/UV Protection - Menzerna Power Lock - Menzerna Power Lock Polymer Paint Sealant

This stuff is not exactly cheap ($25 for 16oz) but the results are amazing and a little goes a long way. You can layer it on very easily if you need to and the rich deep colors after you are done is amazing. Last a good while as well.

The results are absolutely stunning, especially on darker deeper colors like Red.



Beautiful audis man! you did a great job with them
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Sealer/UV Protection - Menzerna Power Lock - Menzerna Power Lock Polymer Paint Sealant
how is this stuff on the black plastic/rubber trim?
does it cloud like wax if you get some on the black?
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Don't do it. That's why I tape off anything I don't want my buffer/product to touch.

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how is this stuff on the black plastic/rubber trim?
does it cloud like wax if you get some on the black?
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You do nice work zerinS4!
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Waxing my jeep makes its skin feel soft as a young womans breast. Just wonderful.
I missed this one!!

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How did you do it? By hand, or with an orbital buffer? I made the mistake of using my orbital buffer on my wife's Honda Civic... Big mistake. The paint/clear coat started to spider web.

It's pretty sad how some manufacturer's skimp on the paint process to save money.

If you did it by hand you will have ZERO problems...
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How did you do it? By hand, or with an orbital buffer? I made the mistake of using my orbital buffer on my wife's Honda Civic... Big mistake. The paint/clear coat started to spider web.

It's pretty sad how some manufacturer's skimp on the paint process to save money.

If you did it by hand you will have ZERO problems...
I did it by hand actually, so that's good to hear. I did a clay bar, ultimate polish, and ultimate wax (meguiars) all by hand.

Really sad to hear about the Honda. What ended up happening with it? How long did it take for the issues to show up? What year was it? Sorry for all the ?'s.

I did mine 2 days ago, and haven't noticed any swirls at all in my paint.
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I have always waxed my new vehicles as soon as I got them home. I believe waiting 4-6 months would do more damage to the paint than waxing right away.

As others mentioned, I highly recommend using a clay bar firs to get anything embedded in the paint from rail dust, etc.

I'm also partial to synthetic waxes and use Zaino as it will last a Long time. A "polish" isn't really necessary on a brand new vehicle since there really shouldn't be much imperfections in the paint brand new.

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That old adage of waiting is a load of garbage now. Mine was built 4/1, and I was doing a full paint correction/sealant using clay, my Porter Cable and Menzerna products on 5/1. I've never waited more than a week after taking delivery of a vehicle to put paint protection on. My sealants are polymer though instead of a traditional carnuba based wax. I'm detail obsessed. Doesn't matter how dirty I get my vehicles so long as they are protected and I clean them immediately afterwards.
Maybe you can help me do mine one day
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That old adage of waiting is a load of garbage now. Mine was built 4/1, and I was doing a full paint correction/sealant using clay, my Porter Cable and Menzerna products on 5/1. I've never waited more than a week after taking delivery of a vehicle to put paint protection on. My sealants are polymer though instead of a traditional carnuba based wax. I'm detail obsessed. Doesn't matter how dirty I get my vehicles so long as they are protected and I clean them immediately afterwards.


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Great info so far. I myself am very green when it comes to waxing. My Q is what about vinyl?
I have a big star on my doors. I assume as I noticed on the white jku that I would want to tape that off.
I might want to reconsider my stars. I want my commando green to last for decades. I know that scratches and dents are coming but I plan on having her for many years. I had my last ride for 10 years and knew nothing on waxing or dish soap and ended up with a burnt up faded paint job.
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Great info so far. I myself am very green when it comes to waxing. My Q is what about vinyl?
I have a big star on my doors. I assume as I noticed on the white jku that I would want to tape that off.
I might want to reconsider my stars. I want my commando green to last for decades. I know that scratches and dents are coming but I plan on having her for many years. I had my last ride for 10 years and knew nothing on waxing or dish soap and ended up with a burnt up faded paint job.
That's a very interesting question, and I'd like to know too. I had a commando green '13 too and had stars on it.

Let's keep the info and anecdotes coming guys, this has been great!
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Thanks for the time ZerinS4 !!!! I'll look into your recomendations. Your car looks stunning!
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Traditional wax (carnuba) will build up at the edges of the decals, although you can run your nail along it to clean it up. Won't hurt it. I can't speak for all synthetic waxes, however the stuff I use (zaino), you can wax right over it, including plastic trims, etc, and it wipes right off, no residue or build up. With UV blockers, I'm sure it will also help from decals fading over time. That's just my experience (more so with my past camaros, etc)

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