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Old 01-28-2011, 06:28 PM   #1
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We want to hear what you want..

I have a general idea on the front bumper we want to build, but i want to see from JK owners what things you want out of a bumper or things to keep of the bumper.

Thanks for the input everyone

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Old 01-28-2011, 06:47 PM   #2
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Stubby bumper with a thin profile, so that it doesn't look bulbous like most JK bumpers do. Don't try to cover that chin guard that hangs down from the frame. let us just cut that thing off.

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I like the stubby because it shows off the tires which is a major investment on a Jeep. But I like the beefy bumper so the Jeep looks husky with a winch and hoop.
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Old 01-28-2011, 07:10 PM   #4
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trim, stout, useful for basic mount points
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I would like to see a decent price on a good bumper.
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Old 01-28-2011, 08:00 PM   #6
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Stubby bumper with a thin profile, so that it doesn't look bulbous like most JK bumpers do. Don't try to cover that chin guard that hangs down from the frame. let us just cut that thing off.

Factory fog lights

winch hoop

attachment points for D-rings
Every thing he said , only a mid width
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Old 01-28-2011, 08:25 PM   #7
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I second the...good bumper for a decent price....been lookin for a rear bumper/tire carrier combo...they are priced way to high in my opinion,i mean,its just steel,not carbon fiber...if anyone can steer me to a good site,let me know....already checked Quadratec
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and yes,im looking for a front bumper also
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Old 01-28-2011, 08:48 PM   #9
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I would like to see something that follows the original form of the vehicle. Meaning, the folks at jeep put a little thought into the design of the factory bumper and how it works with the whole look of the jeep. If you can follow the same contours as the factory bumper but make it heavy-duty with mount points etc. as well, I would buy it.
Most of all it should be functional, work with airbag system, and not void the warranty.
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I second the...good bumper for a decent price....been lookin for a rear bumper/tire carrier combo...they are priced way to high in my opinion,i mean,its just steel,not carbon fiber...if anyone can steer me to a good site,let me know....already checked Quadratec
here is a good thread--http://jk-forum.com/showthread.php?23194-Front-BUMPER-comparison
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I would like to see something that follows the original form of the vehicle. Meaning, the folks at jeep put a little thought into the design of the factory bumper and how it works with the whole look of the jeep. If you can follow the same contours as the factory bumper but make it heavy-duty with mount points etc. as well, I would buy it.
Most of all it should be functional, work with airbag system, and not void the warranty.
Good luck!
This makes sense to me.
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Something along the lines of Rugged Ridge's XHD line would be good. The ability to change my bumper from one config to another, in a short time, is a good thing.
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Old 01-28-2011, 09:27 PM   #13
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I second the...good bumper for a decent price....been lookin for a rear bumper/tire carrier combo...they are priced way to high in my opinion,i mean,its just steel,not carbon fiber...if anyone can steer me to a good site,let me know....already checked Quadratec
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I really like to see the Rugged Ridge XHD with end caps, I think it looks real nice. I also like the high rock bumpers...
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I want to see a bumper that allows the use of the factory air dam or build a bumper with a built on air dam. I have a rugged ridge stubby and my only complaint is that without the factory air dam, mud gets EVERYWHERE in your engine bay. Im actually having to replace my engine fan because of it.
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Most of all it should be functional, work with airbag system, and not void the warranty.
Airbags work with all bumpers. The sensor is not in the bumper.

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Factory fog lights

winch hoop

attachment points for D-rings
Agree with these.

I would prefer a mid-width bumper, a rear bumper and tire carrier that matches, and I like the Lod bumper design that really protects the winch.
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Great info everyone keep them coming.
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Old 01-29-2011, 12:05 PM   #18
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Love the look of the RoadRhino bumpers. But can only find them on eBay. Build something like that and I'll take a front and rear bumper.
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Airbags work with all bumpers. The sensor is not in the bumper.
I really do not know, because I did'nt help design the vehicle. But after reading this on the description of the Mopar Bumper on the Mopar website: "The front bumper is designed to meet all Chrysler occupant protection requirements and is compatible with your vehicle`s airbag system." Logic would tell me that there could be some bumpers that *are not* "compatible with your vehicle`s airbag system".
The main point I was trying to get across was that IMO a bumper should be functional, work with airbag system, and not void the warranty.
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Airbags work with all bumpers. The sensor is not in the bumper.

Agree with these.

I would prefer a mid-width bumper, a rear bumper and tire carrier that matches, and I like the Lod bumper design that really protects the winch.
You are wrong about the bumpers man. As of 6 months ago, the only aftermarket bumpers that actually worked with the vehicles airbag system were the mopar offroad bumper and aev bumper.
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You are wrong about the bumpers man. As of 6 months ago, the only aftermarket bumpers that actually worked with the vehicles airbag system were the mopar offroad bumper and aev bumper.
I'm not sure about the effect on the vehicles airbag system with an aftermarket bumper. The only thing that I could see is that if you were to hit something with an aftermarket bumper the airbags could go off easier due to the bumper being more solid and not absorbing the impact as much. There are no sensors in the bumper so it must be something else.

I do know that aev has the "crush cans" on their bumper but I highly doubt their design has actually been tested enough to ensure it does not hinder the airbag system. Really only one way to test that and I don't think it's in the budget for aev.
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But after reading this on the description of the Mopar Bumper on the Mopar website: "The front bumper is designed to meet all Chrysler occupant protection requirements and is compatible with your vehicle`s airbag system."
That strikes me as a really self-serving statement by Chrysler. Also note that it actually does NOT say that no other bumper works with the airbag system.

If Chrysler could claim expressly that aftermarket bumpers generally won't work, they surely would. To the contrary, the way this statement is written does not exclude the possibility that ALL aftermarket bumpers work with the airbag system.

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You are wrong about the bumpers man. As of 6 months ago, the only aftermarket bumpers that actually worked with the vehicles airbag system were the mopar offroad bumper and aev bumper.
What basis do you have for this claim? It may well be right, but it doesn't make practical sense to me, so I'm curious where you heard it.
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Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner, ... for the most hideous looking Jeep bumper ever designed. DON'T build it like this one, LOL.


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You are wrong about the bumpers man. As of 6 months ago, the only aftermarket bumpers that actually worked with the vehicles airbag system were the mopar offroad bumper and aev bumper.
Sorry, but not wrong. Some bumpers like the ARB and AEV have crush cans, but the airbag sensors are in the drivers and passengers seats and changing the bumper does not have any affect on the sensor.
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Sorry, but not wrong. Some bumpers like the ARB and AEV have crush cans, but the airbag sensors are in the drivers and passengers seats and changing the bumper does not have any affect on the sensor.
If you say so but I know for a fact that my airbags will not deploy on my jeep with my rugged ridge xhd bumper.
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If you say so but I know for a fact that my airbags will not deploy on my jeep with my rugged ridge xhd bumper.
How do you know? Why would this be true?
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If you say so but I know for a fact that my airbags will not deploy on my jeep with my rugged ridge xhd bumper.
I have the same bumper. Please explain. I was under the impression the sensors used accelerometers and triggered the airbags when a certain "deceleration threshold" is met.

That is what I use as the basis of my theory that a bumper without crush cans (only difference) will activate the airbags in less of an impact than would a crush can equipped bumper. Is that enough to say a non crush can equipped bumper will not work with the airbag system? For legal reasons, yes. The airbag system should function with any aftermarket bumper. Not exactly as designed or intended but that is the sticking point.
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How do you know? Why would this be true?
Because i hit a snow covered embankment at 40 mph and came to a dead stop less than a month ago and i definitely didnt have any airbags deploy.
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Because i hit a snow covered embankment at 40 mph and came to a dead stop less than a month ago and i definitely didnt have any airbags deploy.
Unless your airbags are not working for another unrelated cause I would have to guess the snow slowed you down enough so you did not have a rapid enough decel to trigger the bags. Looks like were gonna have to go stress test it to make sure. Mind if I borrow the keys? Haha.

Hope you were not hurt by the way.
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Id like a bumper with these great features, but also it would be really nice if it could be built strong enough for hitting objects, hard.

Also just putting this out there, a mounting point for onboard air inside the bumper? Yes yes? The jk is alreadyva small vehicle use up as much space as you can

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