weekend travels in snow - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > JK Jeep Wrangler Forum > JK General Discussion Forum

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on WranglerForum.com
Old 02-16-2010, 01:06 PM   #1
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: 513
Posts: 78
weekend travels in snow

Greetings all,

Just wanted to remind everyone to take it easy in the snow...

This past long weekend, we received about ten inches of snow. I took the '10 JK out to see what she could do. Boy was I in for a surprise. I almost lost it on two occasions.

1. While descending a very steep decline, I hit a patch of ice, and the Jeep started to slide to the right edge of the road. I counter steered, but the ice kept pushing me to the curb. The deep/thick snow on the edge prevented me from rolling over the curb. I was in 4 Wheel Drive/High, driving very slowly/cautiously

2. I exited the highway and fishtailed coming off of the exit ramp. I hit a large remnant of accumulating snow/slush. I lifted the throttle and let the Jeep finds its course... I'm wondering, should I have not lifted the throttle as abruptly?

I was lucky on both occasions... I had the Jeep in 4 Wheel Drive High the whole day...

I did notice during the descent of #1 above, the Jeep did not automatically compression brake, like it does when I shift into Low (4 spd-automatic) while driving in 2 Wheel Drive... Did the fact that I was in 4 Wheel Drive, prevent the Jeep from compression braking? Should I have downshifted into 4 low? This was pretty scary!

I consider myself to be a safe/veteran driver. The above incidents demonstrate that a novice driver can be fooled by mother nature.

Pls take care out there when driving in inclement weather. 4 wheel drive has its limitations, even in the snow...

B/R & V/R,

BB

BenDiem is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-16-2010, 01:27 PM   #2
Jeeper
 
dj_chizzle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 858
Send a message via AIM to dj_chizzle
My thoughts...

1. Ice + gravity = not a good combination. If you were driving as slowly and cautiously as you said, it doesn't sound like there was anything else you could have done.

2. Sounds like perhaps excessive speed might have been an issue.

Having 4WD does not make us invincible out there.

__________________
'04 Unlimited, Light Khaki Metallic
dj_chizzle is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-16-2010, 01:42 PM   #3
Jeeper
 
JIMBOX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 9,914
In ice, there's really nothing you can do, unless you have an open field in your sliding direction, but

In the JK 4wdHi or 2wd, the Auto will only drop in gears under acceleration (power) based on the ECM curve-

When you are coming downhill or slowing-you have to physically pull the shift lever back to 2nd/1st, it won't doit by itself

I use 2nd a lot, in 2wd, when I pull the trailer for downhills, in 4wdLo-it's a whole different ballgame

Slow down and try to stay clear of the brakes, you might practice playing with the ebrake (lightly), it will keep power (4wd)and steering in the front and let you drag the rear, (lightly) I said

JIMBO
__________________
"ya gotta have class"
JIMBOX is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-16-2010, 02:32 PM   #4
Jeeper
 
JeepQuattro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Cleveland, OH
Posts: 139
Not ice, but 50 mph through snow plow push off piles, I was impressed with my Jeep. I was merging onto the express lanes (from freeway to freeway) and a semi decided to do a last second cut over. He had no clue i was there so i had to cut over through about a foot and a half of heavy stuff. 4 high and my skinny blizzaks cut right through without any loss of control. The semi driver at least gave me the apologetic "my bad' gesture as i drove by.

All season tires or mud tires are not designed for snow and ice, get the right shoes on your ride to match the conditions. I wish everybody would do this, or at least stay out of my lane
__________________
-
-
-
-
-

And if your bottle's empty
Help yourself to mine

HERE'S TO LIFE
JeepQuattro is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-16-2010, 03:04 PM   #5
The Bad Guy

WF Supporting Member
 
daggo66's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: NJ exile living in Baltimore
Posts: 22,205
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenDiem View Post
Should I have downshifted into 4 low?
DO NOT attempt that maneuver! 4L is for crawling at low speeds. You can only be rolling 2-3 mph when attempting to engage 4L.
__________________
Tom

"I've got two things in this world, my balls and my word and I don't break them for no one."
daggo66 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-16-2010, 03:38 PM   #6
kik
Jeeper
 
kik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,726
Images: 1
That reminds me of the movie The day the earth stood still. Sorry Jeep Quattro, "your lane". Unfortunately, the only thing designed for ice are certain types of tracks. Your tires and my Rubi's are going to slide. The only thing that helps with road conditions is slow speed. But, if I'm your way, or in your way, you're more than welcome to pass me. Being a Jeeper I'll wish you well for a safe trip.
kik is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-16-2010, 04:34 PM   #7
Jeeper
 
JeepQuattro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Cleveland, OH
Posts: 139
Not that i want to start an argument, but Blizzaks are an ice designed tire. I can explain the concept of how and why things slide on ice and how the tire acts to mitigate the slip, but don't take my word for it, look it up.
I'm not saying they are the best product for driving on ice, just saying they are designed for ice and snow driving and are way better than all seasons and mud tires.
The most important thing on any car or truck are the tires, any car guy knows that. Get a pair of blizzaks and I assure you, you will agree, Rubi rubber is garbage for winter ROAD driving. I have blizzaks on my all wheel audi as well, i take driving seriously, I just wish others did too.
__________________
-
-
-
-
-

And if your bottle's empty
Help yourself to mine

HERE'S TO LIFE
JeepQuattro is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-16-2010, 06:11 PM   #8
Jeeper
 
JeepQuattro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Cleveland, OH
Posts: 139
BTW, I am not saying anybody here does not take driving seriously, on the contrary, I love Jeep fans because they have passion and knowledge on their rigs, i just want to let people know that the proper tires make a world of difference in winter driving.
__________________
-
-
-
-
-

And if your bottle's empty
Help yourself to mine

HERE'S TO LIFE
JeepQuattro is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-17-2010, 08:26 AM   #9
Jeeper
 
superdavis78's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Corbin, KY
Posts: 301
My 07 Rubi went perfect in the snow and ice we got here in KY. I used 4 high on a couple occassions and was impressed with the BFG MTR's.

superdavis78 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Jeep Wrangler Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The last person to post in this thread wins.... 02Prove Off-Topic 252722 Today 05:06 AM
Snow Chains Vaultzz General Jeep Discussion 3 10-22-2009 06:54 PM
Snow Wheeling in Ohio This Weekend! G54 General Jeep Discussion 18 03-09-2008 08:20 PM
Deep Snow 4 Wheelin... EnigmaMan General Jeep Discussion 11 10-24-2007 02:46 AM
YO Ranch Wheelin' Weekend jeeptales On The Trail 6 07-30-2005 04:17 PM



» Featured Product

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:00 AM.



Jeep, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to Chrysler Motors LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with the Chrysler Motors LLC