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Old 11-09-2013, 03:46 PM   #1
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Wet carpet!

After 8 trips to the dealership and a call to Chrysler (called Chrysler after the 7th), they were finally able to seal the leak that was flowing down both a pillars. One week later the driver side is wet again. I took it in for a 9th trip and now there is a leak where the panels meet over the radio and the carpet is still wet. The dealership says they are out of ideas. What do you guys think?
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Old 11-09-2013, 03:51 PM   #2
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Did you purchase it new?

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Did you purchase it new?
used with 9000 miles. It had no problems when I got it. I had one little leak that got worse the more I took it in.
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Old 11-09-2013, 04:04 PM   #4
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If it's in the warranty period they still own the problem. Not sure what the dealership landscape is but maybe take it to another one? Find out who you can call at Jeep as we'll. I would blow up the lines and write letters till they are sick of me if necessary. After all you are just asking to get your Jeep fixed.
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Does it only leak when you park in a certain place? I have an occasional leak that only occurs when I'm parked in a certain spot. That particular orientation (slight uphill and tilt to the drivers side) flows water down the passenger pillar and around the seal.

If I park the Jeep pointed the other direction or in a different spot with a slightly different incline it doesn't leak.

If it keeps occurring no matter how you park and you want to keep that Jeep you may need to pull carpet and use the bedrug product or Herculine it.
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Old 11-09-2013, 04:27 PM   #6
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Does it only leak when you park in a certain place? I have an occasional leak that only occurs when I'm parked in a certain spot. That particular orientation (slight uphill and tilt to the drivers side) flows water down the passenger pillar and around the seal.

If I park the Jeep pointed the other direction or in a different spot with a slightly different incline it doesn't leak.

If it keeps occurring no matter how you park and you want to keep that Jeep you may need to pull carpet and use the bedrug product or Herculine it.
Last I checked there is no bed rug for JKs available. Has this changed?

Herculiner SUCKS. Use monstaliner.

But seriously, OP should not have to run carpetless just because of a leak with a stock top and stock doors. Carpet has a significant improvement in a lot of things.
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Last I checked there is no bed rug for JKs available. Has this changed?

Herculiner SUCKS. Use monstaliner.

But seriously, OP should not have to run carpetless just because of a leak with a stock top and stock doors. Carpet has a significant improvement in a lot of things.

Yes, Bedrug is available for JK's now. To the OP, same thing happened to me. I brought it numerous times to get "Fixed", even did a lemon claim. The Chysler rep wrote basically that Jeeps leak and take it to arbritration.

I ended up Bedrug'n it and called it a day. i am very happy otherwis.
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Old 11-09-2013, 05:21 PM   #8
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I actually mentioned that to them the past trip. My sister got her license so I've been in the street. I parked on the slanted driveway during a small rain and (I didn't even think about it getting wet because I thought it was fixed) three days later I lifted the mats to vacuum and the floors were wet.
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Yes, Bedrug is available for JK's now. To the OP, same thing happened to me. I brought it numerous times to get "Fixed", even did a lemon claim. The Chysler rep wrote basically that Jeeps leak and take it to arbritration.

I ended up Bedrug'n it and called it a day. i am very happy otherwis.
Won't bedrug still stink after a while?

Jeeps leak, eh? Then why are they so heavily marketed to soccer moms?

I mean, my jeep leaks a little. In a typhoon. And when i have half doors on. And my god, the times ive left the top down overnight and woke up at 3am to go to work and found it downpouring into my jeep.....when the weatherman said it wouldnt rain...
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Won't bedrug still stink after a while?

Jeeps leak, eh? Then why are they so heavily marketed to soccer moms?

I mean, my jeep leaks a little. In a typhoon. And when i have half doors on. And my god, the times ive left the top down overnight and woke up at 3am to go to work and found it downpouring into my jeep.....when the weatherman said it wouldnt rain...
Nope, it basically plastic... will not mold.
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I took my razor blade knife, and cut holes at inconspicuous spots in my floor carpet around the drain holes (and removed all drain holes)... I cut out portions of my carpet under my seats, under my mats, and a few other places to help with drying...
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Nope, it basically plastic... will not mold.
Can't it still get mildewy tho? I've had my hard top get mildew on it when it sat in a damp garage. I had mildew on the fiberglass, glass, and plastic.
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I just cleaned up my jeep today and noticed that my passenger side is soaking wet as well.... also the compartment in the door was full to the brim with water almost. Ive never even noticed leaking over there before!

Seems like this is a pretty common problem lol
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I just cleaned up my jeep today and noticed that my passenger side is soaking wet as well.... also the compartment in the door was full to the brim with water almost. Ive never even noticed leaking over there before!

Seems like this is a pretty common problem lol
I noticed with my Jeep that water would accumulate in the rubber molding itself on the passenger side. There are little holes in the hollow door molding at different points (I assume to allow air out so it will compress). In my case it seemed that water would enter a hole in the rubber molding up on the A pillar and then run down inside the hollow molding and dump itself out in the door sill via another hole. I cut a "V" in the molding just as it makes the turn at the bottom of the A pillar and that seems to allow the water to escape before it makes the turn to the door sill. I haven't had serious leaks since modifying the molding and take care to not park on a gentle upward incline when it rains hard.
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Can't it still get mildewy tho? I've had my hard top get mildew on it when it sat in a damp garage. I had mildew on the fiberglass, glass, and plastic.
You can get mildew on anything. You can get it on tile in a shower....
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You can get mildew on anything. You can get it on tile in a shower....
Exactly, so you probably wouldn't want bed rug to get wet either or that could smell. It'd probably be easier to get rid of mold on it though
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I noticed with my Jeep that water would accumulate in the rubber molding itself on the passenger side. There are little holes in the hollow door molding at different points (I assume to allow air out so it will compress). In my case it seemed that water would enter a hole in the rubber molding up on the A pillar and then run down inside the hollow molding and dump itself out in the door sill via another hole. I cut a "V" in the molding just as it makes the turn at the bottom of the A pillar and that seems to allow the water to escape before it makes the turn to the door sill. I haven't had serious leaks since modifying the molding and take care to not park on a gentle upward incline when it rains hard.
Good idea. Ill try that. I've had my front carpets out for over a year because I wanted to stop caring about leaks. With my hard top back on I'd like my carpets too
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Good idea. Ill try that. I've had my front carpets out for over a year because I wanted to stop caring about leaks. With my hard top back on I'd like my carpets too
Could you possibly post a pic of where u cut the V?

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Old 11-17-2013, 07:51 PM   #19
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When I bought my jeep it was used with 33,000 on it about a month ago. Then I noticed that both the driver and the passenger floorboard was wet underneath however I disregarded it as possibly the tops were left off during rain or something like that, anyway I dried it out and I thought I would see what happens.

It has not happened again until last night however there's not been much rain. Suddenly I've got wet for boards again. On the passenger side it looks like it's leaking from a door seal. However on the driver side I can't find where it's coming in. it almost feels like it's coming in underneath the door at the plastic edge (threshold) at the bottom where you can't see it. That doesn't really make sense. I and I'm planning on going back out there tomorrow morning to take another look butt it looks like I will be taking mine to the dealership before it goes out of warranty.
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Old 11-17-2013, 09:47 PM   #20
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Just wait. They fixed my door seals about 4 times saying that's where it was coming from. Then they said it was from the dripping down the door. Then the a pillar. It's been over a week and I'm waiting for the dealership and Chrysler to figure out what the "next step" is.
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When you and others are are referring to the pillar, are you referring to the section between the doors?
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Never had a leak. The only water I ever had was the drip from the roof when you open the door during or after rain. My warranty is about to expire so I thought I would take care of a few minor issues before it ran out. I had some coupons for oil change, tire rotation and had them look at other things. So the Jeep was there for 4 days. In the meantime while it was there we had a pretty heavy rain. I went to pick it up and the guy drove it around. Then he went to get the paper floor protector out. It had turned to mush from sitting in water. So I have the honor of a Jeep that only leaks when it is at the dealer. I dried it out and left the mat out. After a week it felt dry so I put the mat back in. Put a couple hundred miles on it got home lifted the mat and it was soaked. So even though the carpet feels dry to the touch it is still full of moisture. It has been two weeks and I still get a soaked floor mat with condensation if I put it in. So I am leaving the mat out until it is completely dry. If I did not keep my jeep under cover for the past two weeks I would swear it was leaking. But it has been in a dry area.
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Ouch! Sorry to hear that. We were expecting rain last night so I went out and put towels up against the doors at the bottom to see if I could identify where it was coming from.

I went out there just a little while ago to find that the passengers side was damp and the driver-side was soaked. It looks like the water is coming down the seal on the front side of the door and entering somewhere along the inside of the channel.

You may be able to see it from these photos. So off to the dealership this week.
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At the upper front window corner of the door seal, there's a very fine lip that is designed to direct the water coming of the top rain gutters to the outside of the seal...... most likely due to packaging when the seal is made, that small lip can take a bad fold and direct the water to the onside of the seal, follows the seal to the bottom of the door, where it builds up and goes over the door jamb into the carpet.

Although my driver door was fine, my passenger door had the bad fold and first rain soaked my carpet.... I used a little piece of plastic to push the lip back in place where it should be, and removed it after a few weeks in place.... the lip had taken its intended shape back and I've had a dry jeep since..
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At the upper front window corner of the door seal, there's a very fine lip that is designed to direct the water coming of the top rain gutters to the outside of the seal...... most likely due to packaging when the seal is made, that small lip can take a bad fold and direct the water to the onside of the seal, follows the seal to the bottom of the door, where it builds up and goes over the door jamb into the carpet. Although my driver door was fine, my passenger door had the bad fold and first rain soaked my carpet.... I used a little piece of plastic to push the lip back in place where it should be, and removed it after a few weeks in place.... the lip had taken its intended shape back and I've had a dry jeep since..
I have looked at mine and cannot tell where there may be a problem with the seal. Can you describe or show me with a picture where you are talking about?
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I have looked at mine and cannot tell where there may be a problem with the seal. Can you describe or show me with a picture where you are talking about?
Sure... here are 2 pics.... as said, that lip I'm pointing at, is supposed to go lay deep inside behind the windshield frame, to allow the water that drips towards the front of the hardtop rain gutter to follow the outside of the seal along the front of the door.... if the seal does not lay deep enough when the door is closed, the dripping water follows the inside of the seal and ends up on your carpet....

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Sure... here are 2 pics.... as said, that lip I'm pointing at, is supposed to go lay deep inside behind the windshield frame, to allow the water that drips towards the front of the hardtop rain gutter to follow the outside of the seal along the front of the door.... if the seal does not lay deep enough when the door is closed, the dripping water follows the inside of the seal and ends up on your carpet....
This looks to be the case. I can see where the water is running in. Since it's under warranty I am taking it on Friday for the dealership to look at it. Going to see what they will do about it before I start messing with it.

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Update on my situation that I hope helps others.

I went into the dealership today and they did some testing in which they found no leak. So they took me back to talk to the mechanic and to show him what I had found. From that he suspected that I was correct that the leak was from the door seal. He changed out the front door seals and noticed that there had been an updated design change in them as well.

He did say that he has changed out different seals, all the way to defective Freedom Tops for similar leaking problems which made it sound somewhat common to me. That may not be the case but there have been a number of complaints.

Now I won't be able to tell for certain till it rains so I will keep my fingers crossed.
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Just wait man. Find a comfy chair in their waiting room. Itll be your second home.

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