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Old 01-10-2011, 06:12 PM   #1
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What Air In-Take

Hi, I'm new on this sit and I'm pretty sure I'm older than most , so I need some help. This is my third jeep in over 30 years and I love them. I have a 2010 Jeep Wrangler Sport and want a new in- take. I do not want one that is too loud. Please let me hear your guys opinions.

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Old 01-10-2011, 06:14 PM   #2
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What is wrong with the stock one?

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Old 01-10-2011, 06:17 PM   #3
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There's probably millions and millions of R&D in the stock intake.
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I'm looking for a little more power and milage. What is R&D??
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Old 01-10-2011, 06:46 PM   #5
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The stock intake is as good as you're gonna get. It's all hype that the aftermarket stuff will give you buckoos more mileage and power..

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I saw some benefit from an intake. It's not ALL hype. Here's my review: (http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/my-...iew-73660.html)
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Old 01-10-2011, 07:08 PM   #7
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Ok, makes sence how about just changing the air filter?
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Old 01-10-2011, 07:23 PM   #8
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Stock filter is still your best bet. You want more power you're looking at a supercharger or a Hemi swap.
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Old 01-11-2011, 01:56 PM   #9
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I put a K&N on my 2010 Sport and I have tracked the milage of every gallon of gas since I bought the Jeep (new). There is absolutely no difference in the mpg after the install. However, it does sound really cool when I accelerate.
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A "really cool sound during acceleration" is a good reason to spend the bucks. Just don't expect improvements in performance or economy.
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A "really cool sound during acceleration" is a good reason to spend the bucks. Just don't expect improvements in performance or economy.
I promise--I have a little more pull with my aftermarket intake. Really, I do. It's certainly not anything to throw a party over, but it's there--I honestly downshift less on the highway. Sixth gear is in fact more functional than it used to be. The sound is cool too.
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I promise--I have a little more pull with my aftermarket intake. Really, I do. It's certainly not anything to throw a party over, but it's there--I honestly downshift less on the highway. Sixth gear is in fact more functional than it used to be. The sound is cool too.
Have any Dyno proof? You can call me a doubting thomas if you must...but in the world of snake oils and filters I rarely believe other people's butt dynos.

I am willing to say its a possibility on a JK...but I'd need a real dyno to say your butt dyno isn't faulty.
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Have any Dyno proof? You can call me a doubting thomas if you must...but in the world of snake oils and filters I rarely believe other people's butt dynos. I am willing to say its a possibility on a JK...but I'd need a real dyno to say your butt dyno isn't faulty.
Sure, I bought a few hundred dollars worth of dyno time just to test the air intake I got for free so I could convince people on forums. I'll make sure to let you know how the wind tunnel results come back for that bug guard I'm considering.

No I didn't run dyno tests. Though I haven't seen any dyno proof they don't work either. Just lots of opinions and theorizing.

The manufacturer provides a "dyno" chart that shows around 13 hp at 5k RPM. Of course, that's undoubtedly the very best read they got out of 100 tries, and nobody drives a JK anywhere near 5k RPM anyway. I'm sure the real results are less than that at any reasonable driving RPMs. They can't entirely fabricate the chart, however.

In any event, I do in fact downshift from 6th to 5th less frequently on the hills between Durham and Raleigh. Previously, I did in fact lose speed no matter how hard I mashed the gas pedal if I didn't do this. This is no longer the case except for the two largest hills. That is a legitimate change and not quite "butt dyno." If you haven't already, you can read my review.

(Apologies in advance for the sarcasm . . . I just couldn't help it. All in good fun. )
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R&D is Research and Development. There is a huge difference between the effectiveness of a stock and after market airfilters.

Auto manufacturers spend millions and millions on the entire intake for your jeep. K&N probably spends nothing on the filter except how to make their filter material fit your make and model.

After market filters let more air into the engine, which adds HP, but they also let more debris. All that junk that's sitting on top of your engine has a better chance making its way inside if you use an after market filter.

but they do sound better.
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Old 01-11-2011, 04:24 PM   #15
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Thanks everyone for the info.
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Have any Dyno proof? You can call me a doubting thomas if you must...but in the world of snake oils and filters I rarely believe other people's butt dynos.

I am willing to say its a possibility on a JK...but I'd need a real dyno to say your butt dyno isn't faulty.
Really....you want somebody to dyno an air filter?
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Get either the AFE or Airaid CAI, both are very well made and the Airaid seals against the hood and comes with a metal heat shield. If you have a few more dollars get the Vortec CAI the filter is encased in it's own box something similar to the stock unit but it looks a lot cooler. I too believe a CAI is a better intake when compared to the restrictive stock one, as to all this supposed money Jeep is supposed to be throwing at air flow testing of their intakes is a load of crap, all they are interested in is if it will pass all the new emissions requirements and sound levels, they don't waste money on how well it flows.
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as to all this supposed money Jeep is supposed to be throwing at air flow testing of their intakes is a load of crap, all they are interested in is if it will pass all the new emissions requirements and sound levels, they don't waste money on how well it flows.

Really? They don't care about air flow and MPG?
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Adding a CAI without including high performance exhausts is definately a waste of money but if you add the exhausts plus Superchips Flashpaq you will definatley get more horsepower and MPG. I did all three on my 2010 Wrangler Sport and am very pleased with the results. Before install ing Khumo 33x12.5 tires on 17x9 wheels, I was getting about 17 MPG. After the tire and wheel install, it dropped to 15.3 but with the above performance package I am gettting 18.7 MPG and lot's more power.
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Adding a CAI without including high performance exhausts is definately a waste of money but if you add the exhausts plus Superchips Flashpaq you will definatley get more horsepower and MPG.
Did you make all of those changes at once? I ask because doesn't that leave no way to determine which one--or which combination--produced the improvements you've seen?

I'm aware that a Superchip is pretty much beyond reproach--everybody with an auto transmission seems to love them. A lot of folks on this forum have put them in and done nothing else, yet experienced very good results. (You do have an auto trans, right? I have a manual, so no Superchip for me.)

I also did indeed see an improvement by adding my intake, while it was undoubtedly modest. (I should mention that the intake was a gift that I had no intention of buying on my own, given how much reading I do here. So I truly expected it to do nothing but sound different. I was pleasantly surprised.)

Finally, as I understand it, the 3.8 runs best with a little bit of back pressure, which is what is provided by the stock exhaust. So I've always heard that free flow exhausts actually drain horsepower in a JK, though I have no personal experience with this and no dyno tests to prove it.

Anyway, my point is just that I'd expect you to see palpable (if modest) gains from adding just an intake or just a superchip (for an auto). Is it not possible that your "package" has in fact added some power (superchip + intake) while also deducting some (exhaust)?
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I know jeeps are not Harleys but I changed to a K&N filter on my Harley, ran dyno before and after. Cannot remember if increase 7HP/11 ft tor or 11HP/7 ft tor. so it is worth a chance. I saw a post were someone was considering put clear top replacements on the freedom top, so why not try to get more HP instead
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Old 01-13-2011, 07:23 AM   #22
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You'll get the most HP if you take all the air intake parts off.

All you need to do to incrase HP is to allow more air in and more air out. It's magic.
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Because there is a chance that after market air intake filters or systems might be bad for my engine, I will stick with the stock set up.
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Old 01-13-2011, 05:31 PM   #24
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Well, I wouldn't go as far as "be bad for your engine". Aftermarket intakes just let in more air than the stock does. Letting in more air means letting in more of those little particles that wear the engine.

In my opinion changing the stock air filter regularly gets you the least wear when it comes to those particles.

But the aftermarket does sound cooler.
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I have the aFe stage 2, its nice but they don't come with an emissions sticker yet so I can't recommend it. I do however like the sound , ease of install, look and the very slight increase in power.
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Old 01-13-2011, 05:44 PM   #26
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Its all a play on air.....the more air you let in the more fuel you need to complement it, then you will also need a way for more air to escape....

If your going to Spend a couple hundred on a CAI, you may as well spend a couple more on a Flashpaq, the spend a couple more hundred on a 3 inch cat back exhaust.

When ya get it all done you will notice a difference...

Let me see....Mopar CAI 340.00/Superchips 299.00/3 inch cat back 199.00

That will buy alot of fuel!!
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Old 01-15-2011, 07:58 PM   #27
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Well, I got my Airaid put on today and made the hour drive home. The sound is just right, not loud until you get on it and then it's still not over taking.

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