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Old 05-12-2009, 10:04 PM   #1
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What are dealers selling 09 JK's for?

I'm new to the board. Have owned/own an '03 Freedom Edition and an '04 Sport and have been looking into a new Unlimited. With the econoy being what it is and car sales being what they are what kind of prices are dealers moving '09's at? Has anyone purchased one inthe past few months? How are the incentives/how much are the dealers working with you to move the vehicle? Thanks in advance!

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I purchased a Unlimted X w/ 23S package, dual tops, and more a couple weeks ago. It stickered exactly for $31k and I got it for just over $26k. That was EPP and the $1000 rebate. They also gave me $400 additional off.

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I got a 2009 X with 23S package/soft top for $19k. Plus 0% financing
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A dealer in my area is advertising an '09 Jeep Wrangler X for $17,399.00 ( including all rebates & incentives ). I called them up & they said that is the correct price & they have only 1 at that special rate.

I called 4 other closer dealers to see if they could match that price & they laughed at me ( one said the jeep probably didn't exist ).

Is this price legitimate or will I be taking a long ride for nothing? MSRP on the Jeep is 21,460 according to their web site, are new bare bones Jeeps really this cheap?

I was going to buy a used BMW Z4 convertible but if I can get a brand new jeep for the same price ( or less ) I cant pass that up.

Is the main difference between the basic X & the S package AC & the larger wheels? I could care less about AC & would prob buy custom wheels anyway.

I put around 2k miles per year on my car ( I work about 200 yards from my office ) so would only be using the jeep for trips to the store or beach etc ( ie offroading or a long comfortable commute isnt relevant to me )

any feedback would be great, going to the dealer this weekend.

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...and the Sahara's are going for close to $30k in the SF Bay Area.
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Just bought mine for 19,900 plus doc/destination fee. South Carolina
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Just bought a new Sahara a couple weeks ago, MSRP 28900, got it for 23200 after $1000 rebate and employee pricing. Talk to the Fleet Department, they don't earn comission, they just want to move vehicles. gave me an extra $1700 off.
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Unlimited with 23s package and hard top. Few other goodies too, stickered at $28,600. Got it for $21,400 with my '97, 140,000 mile GC thrown in.

That was with EPP discount. Since that ended, not sure haw they are being discounted.
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I am from New Orleans --- living in Mandeville.....
Wouldn't say I had the best experience with my dealership, but the price was good.
4-door Rubicon was stickered for $37k+ and I got it for $29k including extended warranty. I went in there with a laissez faire attitude, but with lots of sales orders and windows sitckers from dealers around the country, not just Edmunds.com printouts, and I got what I wanted.

That being said, what do you want? You say new Unlimited but nothing specific on the trim, options nor ballpark you want to stay in for pricing.....I will help you as much as I can just provide more details....
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Right now, there's $1000 in rebates in the Northeast, and most other regions. There's also up to $2k available on old-stock vehicles that your dealership won't tell you about The amount varies on how long the vehicle's been on their lot- Mark W.
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A dealer in my area is advertising an '09 Jeep Wrangler X for $17,399.00 ( including all rebates & incentives ). I called them up & they said that is the correct price & they have only 1 at that special rate.

I called 4 other closer dealers to see if they could match that price & they laughed at me ( one said the jeep probably didn't exist ).

Is this price legitimate or will I be taking a long ride for nothing? MSRP on the Jeep is 21,460 according to their web site, are new bare bones Jeeps really this cheap?

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just bought one this weekend at orlando dodge, they had three sitting there for that price. got em down to 16800
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Almost every time a dealership does a "one at this price" deal, it ends up being "sold" immediately after advertising. It's usually a cheap trick to drum up sales and traffic.
The amount you can get off the price DOES vary from dealer to dealer- if you really want to spend hours pinching pennies, go to a huge dealership and try to negotiate a loser deal with them. Try towards the end of the month.
As stock depletes, however, don't expect them to be given away- we're not getting ONE new CDJ until they finish the bankruptcy proceedings, so be smart.
Otherwise, if you don't like having your stones busted, find a small dealer that treats you respectfully, and ask for their best price. Don't be a jerk. Just ask what rebates are available, and ask if they can knock that down a bit. Tell them you plan to service it there, and they may "find" a bit more $ to knock off. That's how we do business, and it's a lot easier both on we, the salesmen, and you, the customer. Customers that try to lowball as bubba did just don't bother coming to us, as they've heard we don't de-value our vehicles like that. Dealerships that do make it worse for everyone- Mark W.
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if only all dealerships were as honest as you say yours is. i guess if someone came into your shop and wanted to pay sticker you would tell them "no" and give them a discount.
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Hah- I've had that happen, actually. That's how my first car deal went. The people came in, loved the Grand Cherokee Laredo, loved the MSRP. I gave them the rebates, and made a customer for life, that easily. If a NEW customer doesn't ask for a better price, we'll give them the rebates on that vehicle. If they're a returning customer and don't ask, we'll knock off a few extra bucks, depending on the model.
This is still a business, and our margins aren't near what they would be at a larger dealership, so we can't afford to have break-even and loser deals. We keep it friendly, and easy, and provide top-notch service- which is why our service department is consistently the #1 in the nation! Gotta love that Even if we have too little inventory (sniff) Mark W.
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Almost every time a dealership does a "one at this price" deal, it ends up being "sold" immediately after advertising. It's usually a cheap trick to drum up sales and traffic.
The amount you can get off the price DOES vary from dealer to dealer- if you really want to spend hours pinching pennies, go to a huge dealership and try to negotiate a loser deal with them. Try towards the end of the month.
As stock depletes, however, don't expect them to be given away- we're not getting ONE new CDJ until they finish the bankruptcy proceedings, so be smart.
Otherwise, if you don't like having your stones busted, find a small dealer that treats you respectfully, and ask for their best price. Don't be a jerk. Just ask what rebates are available, and ask if they can knock that down a bit. Tell them you plan to service it there, and they may "find" a bit more $ to knock off. That's how we do business, and it's a lot easier both on we, the salesmen, and you, the customer. Customers that try to lowball as bubba did just don't bother coming to us, as they've heard we don't de-value our vehicles like that. Dealerships that do make it worse for everyone- Mark W.
This is also called "a bait and switch" and is highly illegal. If a dealership is offering that sale and then say its gone when you get there and try to sell you something with a higher price you can nail them on it. They might try to say that it is an in stock item only but you can make them prove that they dont have any in stock and they also have to prove that they had at least one in stock when then started the ad.
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Almost every time a dealership does a "one at this price" deal, it ends up being "sold" immediately after advertising. It's usually a cheap trick to drum up sales and traffic.
The amount you can get off the price DOES vary from dealer to dealer- if you really want to spend hours pinching pennies, go to a huge dealership and try to negotiate a loser deal with them. Try towards the end of the month.
As stock depletes, however, don't expect them to be given away- we're not getting ONE new CDJ until they finish the bankruptcy proceedings, so be smart.
Otherwise, if you don't like having your stones busted, find a small dealer that treats you respectfully, and ask for their best price. Don't be a jerk. Just ask what rebates are available, and ask if they can knock that down a bit. Tell them you plan to service it there, and they may "find" a bit more $ to knock off. That's how we do business, and it's a lot easier both on we, the salesmen, and you, the customer. Customers that try to lowball as bubba did just don't bother coming to us, as they've heard we don't de-value our vehicles like that. Dealerships that do make it worse for everyone- Mark W.
I'm getting the barebones version for a reason. ( don't make alot of money ) I orignally wanted to buy a used auto for no more than 15k so I'm already way over budget. If I can get a brand new jeep in the 17's or even 16's its worth it to me to stretch for a brand new vehicle. Some people pinch pennies out of need not just being cheap .

I called a more local dealership & they told me they would match any advertised price so I'm gonna head over there tommorrow & see what they can do.
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I hear you amigo- there's a reason I started with a 6-speed, basic X with 3.73's and AC as the only option. I work there, and I got them to give us a good deal, but it's still a stretch for us right now.
There may be some out there with no A/C in 6-speed. That would be your best bet If you plan to expand later, 3.73's are pretty common to find, and it's only a $50 option, and worth EVERY penny when you don't have to re-gear later for up to 33's! Mark W.
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A dealer in my area is advertising an '09 Jeep Wrangler X for $17,399.00 ( including all rebates & incentives ). I called them up & they said that is the correct price & they have only 1 at that special rate.

I called 4 other closer dealers to see if they could match that price & they laughed at me ( one said the jeep probably didn't exist ).

Is this price legitimate or will I be taking a long ride for nothing? MSRP on the Jeep is 21,460 according to their web site, are new bare bones Jeeps really this cheap?

I was going to buy a used BMW Z4 convertible but if I can get a brand new jeep for the same price ( or less ) I cant pass that up.

Is the main difference between the basic X & the S package AC & the larger wheels? I could care less about AC & would prob buy custom wheels anyway.

I put around 2k miles per year on my car ( I work about 200 yards from my office ) so would only be using the jeep for trips to the store or beach etc ( ie offroading or a long comfortable commute isnt relevant to me )

any feedback would be great, going to the dealer this weekend.

thanks,

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With the S package you get power windows, locks, bigger wheels and tires, remote locks, security alarm, tinted windows, leather steering wheel, cruise control, floor mats, tow hooks, temature/compass gauge, etc... Of course this is on the Unlimited X 23S...may vary on regular Wranglers.
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With the S package you get power windows, locks, bigger wheels and tires, remote locks, security alarm, tinted windows, leather steering wheel, cruise control, floor mats, tow hooks, temature/compass gauge, etc... Of course this is on the Unlimited X 23S...may vary on regular Wranglers.
Correct on the 2dr being different. The S package does not include the power package, but you need the S to get the power option.

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I know you can get the Wrangler Unlimited 4 door for 19k but thats stripped down to nothing. If anyone has heard of a cheaper price on the 4 door let me know. thanks.
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I'm getting the barebones version for a reason. ( don't make alot of money ) I originally wanted to buy a used auto for no more than 15k so I'm already way over budget. If I can get a brand new jeep in the 17's or even 16's its worth it to me to stretch for a brand new vehicle. Some people pinch pennies out of need not just being cheap .

I called a more local dealership & they told me they would match any advertised price so I'm gonna head over there tommorrow & see what they can do.
The original 4-dr we were considering was 6-speed, softtop. No power options, 225 tires/steel wheels and the only option it had was $50 floor mats. At the time of EPP pricing they were willing to come down to about 19k.

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We bought our Sahara Unlimited just before the end of the all the discounts the dealers were offering.
With all the bells and whistles it has on it, the sticker was in the neighborhood of 30K.
Figuring in all the discounts and tradein, we were out the door for 18K.
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^ Well, with trade-in considered....I was very close to being out with them owing me $.....
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This is also called "a bait and switch" and is highly illegal. If a dealership is offering that sale and then say its gone when you get there and try to sell you something with a higher price you can nail them on it. They might try to say that it is an in stock item only but you can make them prove that they dont have any in stock and they also have to prove that they had at least one in stock when then started the ad.
I thought "bait and switch" only applied to retail sales not on automobiles. Even if it did apply to cars, the sale was advertised as a one car only first come first git deal. No false advertising there. Gees, am I defending car sellers? Gotta stop that.
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I paid $5000 less for my Jeep at a larger dealer in another state. The smaller ones near me could not compete. They are on the hit list published today.
I'm sure they made next to nothing on it but on someones sales chart they looked great.... at least they were selling produce and getting them on the street.
The place where I bought my Jeep looks safe for now.

I would have used the places closer to me for service if I needed it. Doubt I will need any items serviced by a Jeep dealer anyway. If I do I can drive to the place a bunch of times for the $5000 I saved in the other state.
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Just got back from the closer dealer that said they could match, well they couldnt/wouldnt match. Best price they gave me on a barebones jeep X manual with no AC was $18,700 ( sticker was 21,240, they claimed they paid 20k for it so would be losing money on anything under 18,700 ). The other dealer is 60 miles away, just called them & they still have the jeep for 17,399 but the color has since changed from silver to white ( one of the only colors I don't want ). It seems that is an older '09 so it qualifies for an extra 2,000 factory to dealer rebate, best they can do on any color I want is 18999.

I got a speeding ticket on the way home as well

hmm what to do?
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I would get the white one and use the $$$ you save on other stuff.

It will hide the scratches a lot better also.
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Just got back from the closer dealer that said they could match, well they couldnt/wouldnt match. Best price they gave me on a barebones jeep X manual with no AC was $18,700 ( sticker was 21,240, they claimed they paid 20k for it so would be losing money on anything under 18,700 ). The other dealer is 60 miles away, just called them & they still have the jeep for 17,399 but the color has since changed from silver to white ( one of the only colors I don't want ). It seems that is an older '09 so it qualifies for an extra 2,000 factory to dealer rebate, best they can do on any color I want is 18999.


hmm what to do?
Used the internet - check the internet sales prices and find one you like.
I see 81 pct of MSRP at a lot of dealers here in Md. that would be $17,200 and includes destination but not tax or tags.

There's limited inventory, but there are vehicles out there.

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Used the internet - check the internet sales prices and find one you like.
I see 81 pct of MSRP at a lot of dealers here in Md. that would be $17,200 and includes destination but not tax or tags.

There's limited inventory, but there are vehicles out there.
Any sights you can recommend? All the ones I have been using only show MSRP for new vehicles. The only way I found the $17,399.00 deal was a newspaper ad.

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