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What changes do you hope to see in the 2016 redesign?

41K views 298 replies 171 participants last post by  Freedom JK 
#1 ·
I've wanted a Wrangler for a few years now, but just couldn't bring myself to pull the trigger. I've had a few concerns, most notably, the problem with leaks, especially from the freedom tops. I'm sure many, if not all of my concerns will be taken care of with the 2016 model.

That said, what changes do you want to see with the 2016 redesign? Here are mine....

1. Redesigned roof that eliminates leaks
2. Diesel engine
3. More headroom
4. Doors that hold open in a set position
5. More durable hard top that isn't prone to scratching
6. No carpet option

I love the look of the current Wrangler so I hope they don't do anything to drastic with the look.
 
#129 ·
You guys realize that instead of getting info from Jeep owners like us they will poll soccer moms as to why they bought a new Jeep Wrangler and traded it after 6 months.

What most of you guys don't get, after seeing some of these requests, is that Chrysler had to get X amount of units sold at X amount of profit.

That means more soccer mom stuff and less D60's, and fold down front windshields and what not.

I'll tell you right now, we will be lucky to still have removable doors with the revamp coming. They will try to lighten it up, make the interior nicer, better mpg anyway they can.


Personally, as long as I can take my doors and top off and get a better interior, I don't care. I get the feeling a lot of you guys are going to be let down though......
 
#131 ·
You guys realize that instead of getting info from Jeep owners like us they will poll soccer moms as to why they bought a new Jeep Wrangler and traded it after 6 months.

What most of you guys don't get, after seeing some of these requests, is that Chrysler had to get X amount of units sold at X amount of profit.

That means more soccer mom stuff and less D60's, and fold down front windshields and what not.

I'll tell you right now, we will be lucky to still have removable doors with the revamp coming. They will try to lighten it up, make the interior nicer, better mpg anyway they can.

Personally, as long as I can take my doors and top off and get a better interior, I don't care. I get the feeling a lot of you guys are going to be let down though......
Completely true. Every other jeep vehicle has followed this path. Comfort, safety, fuel mileage and all that over off road prowess. It'll be a sad day to see a wrangler with a non removable windshield... But people can live with that. Now if you can't take the doors off there will be problems.
 
#137 ·
I am with TOK and KBoB on this one.

The Cherokee...oh, where do I begin. It's a minivan with four doors. Somehow we went from the XJ to this abomination. What the XJ should be is the Wrangler for all the folks in this thread that said they wanted a windshield with more slope and no folding, who don't care about the removable doors, who want a more robust leak proof roof, better seats and more options for the interior. The XJ should bridge the gap between the off-road capability of the Wrangler and the amenities that modern consumers expect in their vehicles. Hell, you could make it on the JK unlimited frame/suspension/t-case/drive line.

The Wrangler, despite being unfriendly to soccer moms, moves how many units? How does the Wrangler's sales volume compare to the rest of the Jeep model line? The Wrangler is about the only thing Jeep does right...doing it as wrong as the rest of their models isn't going to help them. Hell, it's the only vehicle from Chrysler I am ever likely to own because it ISN'T an attempt to imitate something someone else is doing or concede capability to conformity.

As far as stuff I'd like:
- totally agree with Line-X option inside and out
- agree with off-road options a la carte
- spare needs to mount lower and off the bumper/frame
- agree with better roll cage, and...
- ...slope the windshield and forget folding it to enhance the structural rigidity
- water proofing option for the interior bits

There are probably a few other things.
 
#139 ·
Better lights..in, out and all around. Seats that can be rinsed off but hold up. Flat drop down tailgate option. Shifter similar to new ram pickups. . Knob on dash with paddle shifters behind steering wheel but keeping the floor mounted transfer case shifter on the floor. Easier rear seat removal. different colors on inside of hardtop.
 
#142 ·
Bottom line: Chrysler saw a HUGE increase in sales when they released the 4-door, because it opened up the wrangler to a much broader market. For them to take any action at this point which would narrow that market would be irrational. There's no way in hell they're going to make the wrangler more rugged, stripped down, or simple. It's not that they don't care about what their hardcore customers want- it's that they don't care about anything but increasing the value of their stock. That's how corporations work. Welcome to America.
 
#143 ·
Xenon or HID lights
Rear camera standard
Dual zone auto a/c
Power sunrider feature
Better side impact protection
Side curtain airbags front and rear
Bigger tire option pkg
Sloped, non folding windshield
Grab handles
Better soft top design that allows you to fold top without removing or scratching windows
Auto up windows
2wd option for better mileage
Reclining rear seats
Better access to rear area with soft top
Linex under or instead if carpet
 
#145 ·
Use to be a guy could get a stripped down Wrangler S in the early 1990's with a 2.4L I4 and vinyl seats for about $10000 + tax. Crazy insane luxuries like an AM/FM radio, power steering, rear seating and a tilt steering wheel were extra. Of course, they wussed out and included auto-locking hubs and power brakes, so it was probably a bit decadent for some of our more hardcore members. Anyhow... I'd like to see a stripped two door like that offered again, if only to stifle the complaining about there being too many options. It would be an inflation adjusted $17k. I'd be interested to see how many folks sell their 20** JKs for a 2016 stripper version as their sole Jeep for both daily driver and weekend toy.
 
#147 ·
I would totally buy a 2016 stripped model. Well id get the air conditioning option. But still.

How come the base model has to be a sport? Why cant there just be a wrangler? Why do i need stickers to tell people i bought the cheapest wrangler? I peeled the xes off mine looks so much cleaner
 
#149 ·
Yeah good lick with that....it will only get worse.
 
#154 ·
2012 was the last year any on road diesel engine was made for the us market as far as i can tell, and they were required in 2011. International added the fine to the price of the engine instead of giving a damn haha.... :)

The emissions systems can be removed pretty easily im told. But you only need to fill the def up every 6000 miles anyway.
 
#153 ·
Diesel for 2016 would be nice, but if the price increase on the GC is any indication of the bump they will want for it, I'll pass. 4-5k can buy a lot of gas.

I want Jeep to work on the things there should've been a fix for years ago ie, leaking freedom tops, death wobble, tow capacity, fluid leaks, cylinder head problems 12-13, hood lift on the freeway, crash test results. There's a lot of things that have been improved, I will give them that but they're still falling just short of the goal line.

Finally, a huge middle finger to those of you who tell anyone that doesn't want a leaking top to "buy a Grand Cherokee" or "buy an SUV". That is the hugest cop out in the world and as owners, we should demand better quality if we're going to be charged 30-40k.
 
#156 ·
2018?
Interesting info....

>>>
Citing unnamed Chrysler suppliers, The Detroit News says the Auburn Hills-based automaker will keep its Dodge Avenger sedan, Dodge Grand Caravan minivan and Jeep Wrangler SUV around longer than previously planned.

The Jeep Wrangler was scheduled to be replaced by a new model in 2016, but the current SUV will now remain in production until 2018.
>>>
 
#157 ·
There's been some local cases where the DEF system on these new diesels have been failing in the winter leaving the occupants stranded on the highway. This has happened to Ford and VW. Several thousand dollars latter the VW had to be bought back. It seems that diesel is on its last leg. Maybe someone can engineer a solution but only time will tell.

Jeep should have a seat material thats a non neopreen dog hair grabbing mess. I love the comfort of my 13's but the dogs make them a nightmare. Trekarmor needs to hurry up with the side airbag front covers. Another example of gov't getting in the way. But safety first.
 
#166 ·
There's been some local cases where the DEF system on these new diesels have been failing in the winter leaving the occupants stranded on the highway. This has happened to Ford and VW. Several thousand dollars latter the VW had to be bought back. It seems that diesel is on its last leg. Maybe someone can engineer a solution but only time will tell.

Jeep should have a seat material thats a non neopreen dog hair grabbing mess. I love the comfort of my 13's but the dogs make them a nightmare. Trekarmor needs to hurry up with the side airbag front covers. Another example of gov't getting in the way. But safety first.
Sorry but how exactly is "govt getting in the way" with regard to optional side airbags?
 
#159 ·
The big rig diesels are still lasting close to a million miles between rebuilds. They arent wearing out faster. But the emissions systems break alot. A while back my truck broke down every 2000 miles for a month or so. I drive more than 2000 miles a week. Egr coolers.

Are they really going to axe the wrangler in 2018 or are they going to make it "better"? I think killing the jeep will be the worst mistake chrysler would ever make.

I hope in 2041 they re release the cj for a 100th anniversary edition.
 
#160 ·
I hope in 2041 they re release the cj for a 100th anniversary edition.
You'll have to survive 3 more years until 2044. CJ's started in 1944

2018 won't be the end of the Jeep...that is just re-design.

Axing the Wrangler would rank #1 of stupid corporate moves. Although, they do hold the 2nd and 3rd positions...

#1 New Coke
#2 New Cherokee
#3 Square Headlights
 
#164 ·
Per Blankster and the link below, there won't be any changes until 2018 to the Jeep Wrangler.

Suppliers say that the current Jeep Wrangler will live on through mid-2018 – that's right, another five years. The Detroit News reports that a replacement for the iconic, go-anywhere Jeep was due in mid-2016.

Chrysler extending production of current Dodge Avenger, Jeep Wrangler, Grand Caravan - Autoblog
 
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