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Old 07-21-2013, 09:09 PM   #121
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I'd like to see better milage, do away with 3.21 gears, hid standard, d44 front on all models, v8, and tops that don't leak... But I'm jet saying

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Wow should have named this thread What I hate about Jeep. And things that can be changed to Kill the Wrangler... I agree with the ones who said a more striped down version, but I prefer to keep my A/C it is nice sometimes. Yes it would be nice to have factors Dana 60's and a Diesel but that is adding a lot to the price tag for that price you can buy something like a Brute Force.

There were some really good suggestions like headlight improvements that I can say should be addressed for sure.

leak resistant tops, well buy an SUV, heated this and power that... You can have all that stuff, they make great selling options and are nice to have but I don't like them.

But if I could make one suggestion to all the auto makers across the world I would ask for Lambo Doors on every thing, that would solve the Door Ding problem.. *L* Of course I would still roll with no doors.

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Lighter doors and a smaller back window with HIGHER gate. I find getting in there or putting things in there to be useless. I don't need the huge back window.
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Diesel, and me driving one.

Thats all I want.
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Old 07-22-2013, 09:43 AM   #125
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How can you get more stripped down than a current sport with a manual tranny and training wheels? What, no carpet?
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Old 07-22-2013, 09:48 AM   #126
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A fuel efficient turbo diesel option. Linex interior option. I like it simple.
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Old 07-23-2013, 09:42 AM   #127
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- bring back a 2WD.
- 20" wheels as an option.
- yellow color. Not Dozer
I love my Dozer and I did have a yellow 4dr before!
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Radical 2016 Jeep Wrangler suggested by job listings? - Autoblog

This looks pretty legit. Just some insight on the 2016 redesign.
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Old 07-23-2013, 10:55 AM   #129
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You guys realize that instead of getting info from Jeep owners like us they will poll soccer moms as to why they bought a new Jeep Wrangler and traded it after 6 months.

What most of you guys don't get, after seeing some of these requests, is that Chrysler had to get X amount of units sold at X amount of profit.

That means more soccer mom stuff and less D60's, and fold down front windshields and what not.

I'll tell you right now, we will be lucky to still have removable doors with the revamp coming. They will try to lighten it up, make the interior nicer, better mpg anyway they can.


Personally, as long as I can take my doors and top off and get a better interior, I don't care. I get the feeling a lot of you guys are going to be let down though......
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Old 07-23-2013, 10:56 AM   #130
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Radical 2016 Jeep Wrangler suggested by job listings? - Autoblog

This looks pretty legit. Just some insight on the 2016 redesign.

Not a shot in the world. More specialized, less mass appeal. Not a shot.

Guys, wake up. They want to SELL SELL SELL, not make modders or hard core guys happy.
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Old 07-23-2013, 11:02 AM   #131
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You guys realize that instead of getting info from Jeep owners like us they will poll soccer moms as to why they bought a new Jeep Wrangler and traded it after 6 months.

What most of you guys don't get, after seeing some of these requests, is that Chrysler had to get X amount of units sold at X amount of profit.

That means more soccer mom stuff and less D60's, and fold down front windshields and what not.

I'll tell you right now, we will be lucky to still have removable doors with the revamp coming. They will try to lighten it up, make the interior nicer, better mpg anyway they can.

Personally, as long as I can take my doors and top off and get a better interior, I don't care. I get the feeling a lot of you guys are going to be let down though......
Completely true. Every other jeep vehicle has followed this path. Comfort, safety, fuel mileage and all that over off road prowess. It'll be a sad day to see a wrangler with a non removable windshield... But people can live with that. Now if you can't take the doors off there will be problems.
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Old 07-23-2013, 05:25 PM   #132
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How can you get more stripped down than a current sport with a manual tranny and training wheels? What, no carpet?
I'd love to be able to optionally remove any/all of the following:

Carpet, radio, roll bar padding and plastic, rear seat, rear seatbelts

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Old 07-23-2013, 06:37 PM   #133
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Old 07-23-2013, 06:50 PM   #134
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You guys realize that instead of getting info from Jeep owners like us they will poll soccer moms as to why they bought a new Jeep Wrangler and traded it after 6 months.

What most of you guys don't get, after seeing some of these requests, is that Chrysler had to get X amount of units sold at X amount of profit.

That means more soccer mom stuff and less D60's, and fold down front windshields and what not.

I'll tell you right now, we will be lucky to still have removable doors with the revamp coming. They will try to lighten it up, make the interior nicer, better mpg anyway they can.


Personally, as long as I can take my doors and top off and get a better interior, I don't care. I get the feeling a lot of you guys are going to be let down though......
I think they are smart enough to see the Wrangler is the only vehicle they make where they don't really have to directly compete with anything else. They are going to be very careful about changes.

Its especially important because Jeep gets their asses whipped in nearly every other category they compete in. The Compass and Liberty are perpetual losers, and its looking like everyone hates the styling of the new Cherokee. The Grand Cherokee is the only other Jeep besides the Wrangler that isn't a complete embarrassment.
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Old 07-23-2013, 07:43 PM   #136
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My opinion? Continue to improve and refine a great off/on road vehicle and f...orget the soccer mom's who destroyed every other on/off road vehicle ever made.
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Old 07-23-2013, 09:05 PM   #137
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I am with TOK and KBoB on this one.

The Cherokee...oh, where do I begin. It's a minivan with four doors. Somehow we went from the XJ to this abomination. What the XJ should be is the Wrangler for all the folks in this thread that said they wanted a windshield with more slope and no folding, who don't care about the removable doors, who want a more robust leak proof roof, better seats and more options for the interior. The XJ should bridge the gap between the off-road capability of the Wrangler and the amenities that modern consumers expect in their vehicles. Hell, you could make it on the JK unlimited frame/suspension/t-case/drive line.

The Wrangler, despite being unfriendly to soccer moms, moves how many units? How does the Wrangler's sales volume compare to the rest of the Jeep model line? The Wrangler is about the only thing Jeep does right...doing it as wrong as the rest of their models isn't going to help them. Hell, it's the only vehicle from Chrysler I am ever likely to own because it ISN'T an attempt to imitate something someone else is doing or concede capability to conformity.

As far as stuff I'd like:
- totally agree with Line-X option inside and out
- agree with off-road options a la carte
- spare needs to mount lower and off the bumper/frame
- agree with better roll cage, and...
- ...slope the windshield and forget folding it to enhance the structural rigidity
- water proofing option for the interior bits

There are probably a few other things.
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Old 07-23-2013, 09:55 PM   #138
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How about a lower price point...I haven't seen that as one of the options...
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Old 07-23-2013, 10:25 PM   #139
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Better lights..in, out and all around. Seats that can be rinsed off but hold up. Flat drop down tailgate option. Shifter similar to new ram pickups. . Knob on dash with paddle shifters behind steering wheel but keeping the floor mounted transfer case shifter on the floor. Easier rear seat removal. different colors on inside of hardtop.
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Better lights..in, out and all around. Seats that can be rinsed off but hold up. Flat drop down tailgate option. Shifter similar to new ram pickups. . Knob on dash with paddle shifters behind steering wheel but keeping the floor mounted transfer case shifter on the floor. Easier rear seat removal. different colors on inside of hardtop.
This all sounds good to me.
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Old 07-23-2013, 10:46 PM   #141
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Independent suspension front and rear
No removeable doors or top
1.6L turbo option
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20" wheels as standard

























Just kidding.
You gave me a heart attack...
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Old 07-23-2013, 10:49 PM   #142
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Bottom line: Chrysler saw a HUGE increase in sales when they released the 4-door, because it opened up the wrangler to a much broader market. For them to take any action at this point which would narrow that market would be irrational. There's no way in hell they're going to make the wrangler more rugged, stripped down, or simple. It's not that they don't care about what their hardcore customers want- it's that they don't care about anything but increasing the value of their stock. That's how corporations work. Welcome to America.
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Old 07-23-2013, 10:52 PM   #143
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Xenon or HID lights
Rear camera standard
Dual zone auto a/c
Power sunrider feature
Better side impact protection
Side curtain airbags front and rear
Bigger tire option pkg
Sloped, non folding windshield
Grab handles
Better soft top design that allows you to fold top without removing or scratching windows
Auto up windows
2wd option for better mileage
Reclining rear seats
Better access to rear area with soft top
Linex under or instead if carpet
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Old 07-23-2013, 11:01 PM   #144
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Better design for the soft top windows
Heating vents to the rear passengers
Quick connect option for the hard top instead of the torx bolts.
Mounting point for mirrors when doors are off.
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Use to be a guy could get a stripped down Wrangler S in the early 1990's with a 2.4L I4 and vinyl seats for about $10000 + tax. Crazy insane luxuries like an AM/FM radio, power steering, rear seating and a tilt steering wheel were extra. Of course, they wussed out and included auto-locking hubs and power brakes, so it was probably a bit decadent for some of our more hardcore members. Anyhow... I'd like to see a stripped two door like that offered again, if only to stifle the complaining about there being too many options. It would be an inflation adjusted $17k. I'd be interested to see how many folks sell their 20** JKs for a 2016 stripper version as their sole Jeep for both daily driver and weekend toy.
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I would totally buy a 2016 stripped model. Well id get the air conditioning option. But still.

How come the base model has to be a sport? Why cant there just be a wrangler? Why do i need stickers to tell people i bought the cheapest wrangler? I peeled the xes off mine looks so much cleaner
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How can you get more stripped down than a current sport with a manual tranny and training wheels? What, no carpet?
Less useless can bus crap. Why do the headlights and turn signals need to be computer controlled? All this electronic crap is more crap to break from fording rivers.

Id like to see an airbag disable switch like single cab pickups have.
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Old 07-24-2013, 12:03 AM   #149
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Yeah good lick with that....it will only get worse.
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Someone made a good point on diesel about the DEF on the new engines being a likelyhood. Fuuuuuuuuuuuu! Bad gov't! Looks like my Pentastar will have to last a real long while.

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