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Old 10-07-2013, 02:26 PM   #1
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What do you guys think of this setup??

It's my first Jeep.
It's really just for daily driving and not fearing snowy days in the Northeast. I won't be towing or doing anything extreme, and want a well priced truck.

Here is what I'm looking at. The only thing it's missing is the 3:73
2014 Jeep Wrangler Sport S
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options:s pkg.Power windows,door locks, remote start, heated mirrors,remote keyless entry,security alarm,leather wrapped steering wheel,deep tint sunscreen windows.connectivity group with Bluetooth hands-free,32-inch tire and black wheel group, 17-inch x 7.5-inch black painted alum moab wheels,trac-lok differential rear axle,freedom top black 3-piece hard top,rear window defroster,siriusXM satellite radio w/1-year radio subscription

Any thoughts or ideas on what I might "NEED". I was thinking an aftermarket soft top in the spring.

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you'll be good with the 3.21 gearing based on your plans.

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Old 10-07-2013, 02:42 PM   #3
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you'll be good with the 3.21 gearing based on your plans.
I'm all paranoid now. I just love the 32" wheel package on the anvil. Which you can't order now. Essentially a discount Rubicon...
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Old 10-07-2013, 02:44 PM   #4
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I'm wondering if the Mopar ring and pinior gear set could be retrofitted? Might throw off the speedo...
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Old 10-07-2013, 02:52 PM   #5
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Test drive a 3.21 and a 3.73 before you decide. The 3.73 has LOADS more power. It's much, much more fun to drive. The 3.21 feels sedate, the 3.73 is an absolute blast to drive.

If you think you want a soft top, order a jeep with a soft top. The hard top is noisy -- the soft top is actually considerably quieter. I would only get a hard top if I lived in the north where that awful white stuff accumulates in this season they call "winter". It's such an effort to take the hard top off, requires a garage and a winch, or a buddy and still a place to store it is necessary. Soft top comes down in a few minutes.

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Old 10-07-2013, 02:54 PM   #6
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I would also consider the limited slip rear differential. It's a cheap option, and well worth it even if you don't think you'll need it. If you get stuck, you'll wish you'd paid the extra $195.

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Old 10-07-2013, 03:14 PM   #7
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I would also consider the limited slip rear differential. It's a cheap option, and well worth it even if you don't think you'll need it. If you get stuck, you'll wish you'd paid the extra $195.

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It has the trac lock which I thought was the limited slip. Since there are so few of these sports with the options I want in the color I want, and you can't order the 32" moab wheels anymore, I could always get 3:73s installed after.

Besides I have a fast car, this is purely a cruiser for crappy weather and casual daily driving.
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Old 10-07-2013, 03:41 PM   #8
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Here is another truck available, but it doesn't have the limited slip.
Which would you guys choose?
Included Packages

Quick Order Package 24S ($2,500) Wheels: 17" x 7.5" AluminumAuto Dim Mirror w/Reading LampDeep Tint Sunscreen WindowsLeather Wrapped Steering WheelTires: P255/75R17 OWL On/Off RoadPower Convenience GroupChrome/Leather Wrapped Shift KnobPower Heated MirrorsPower LocksFront 1-Touch Down Power WindowsRemote Keyless EntrySecurity Alarm Dual Top Group ($2,185) Black 3-Piece Hard TopPremium Black Sunrider Soft TopDelete Sunrider Soft TopFreedom Panel Storage BagRear Window DefrosterRear Window Wiper/WasherTinted Rear Quarter & Liftgate WindowsSunrider Soft Top Transmission: 5-Speed Automatic ($1,295) Hill Descent ControlTip Start Connectivity Group ($570) Leather Wrapped Steering WheelRemote USB PortTire Pressure Monitoring DisplayUconnect Voice Command w/BluetoothVehicle Information CenterChrome/Leather Wrapped Shift Knob Trailer Tow Group ($295) Class II Receiver HitchTrailer Tow w/4-Pin Connector Wiring SIRIUS Satellite Radio ($195) 1-Year SIRIUSXM Radio ServiceFor More Info Call 888-539-7474 Additional Options

  • 32" Tire & Wheel Group
  • Tires: LT255/75R17 BSW Off Road
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The way I understand it, Trac-Loc is electronic - brakes applied to mimic limited slip. Limited slip is mechanical, and doesn't rob any power to do its job. If it's primarily a street rig I wouldn't worry too much. But... new wheels are a lot cheaper, and a lot less work, than having both diffs re-geared.

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Old 10-07-2013, 05:43 PM   #10
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WOW, that will be one awesome Wrangler!!!!!!!!!
Stick with the hardtop and just remove the front top two panels, and doors for summer use.
When you get it, CONGRATS............
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Old 10-08-2013, 01:35 AM   #11
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I love my soft top and half doors, but to each his own.

Was really important I got the 3.73 gears and limited slip diff along with half doors, so I just ordered it custom. Still got it at 2% under invoice too. Just had to wait a month for delivery. If you can wait, I really suggest you order EXACTLY what you want, while you still can. (Colors disappear quickly).

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Old 10-08-2013, 06:49 AM   #12
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Why not just get a loaded out Rubicon? You have the lockers for those four wheel low occasions when you need them. Its a Jeep, eventually you will be at least going off pavement because ya can't resist. You get side protections for those inconsiderate mall people that feel they need to open their doors all the way into yours to get out of their car. Rubi comes with 32's and an extra inch of clearance.

Is it more than you need? Yes. But as the saying goes, better to have it and not need it, then to need it and not have it.

My vote is to custom order a Rubicon.
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Old 10-08-2013, 09:00 AM   #13
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Well what I started seeing was that these Sport S's with the wheels and bells and whistles are entering Rubicon pricing! So may as well pay a tad extra and just get a Rubi!

Here's a Rubicon I'm looking at that's the same price as these sports. By doing the 6 speed manual, I save some cash, and stay true to the purist experience!

Dual Top Group ($2,185)
Black 3-Piece Hard Top
Premium Black Sunrider Soft Top
Delete Sunrider Soft Top
Freedom Panel Storage Bag
Rear Window Defroster
Rear Window Wiper/Washer
Sunrider Soft Top

Connectivity Group ($495)
Remote USB Port
Tire Pressure Monitoring Display
Uconnect Voice Command w/Bluetooth
Vehicle Information Center

Max Tow Package ($395)
Class II Receiver Hitch
Trailer Tow w/4-Pin Connector Wiring

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50 State Emissions
Cloth Bucket Seats
Engine: 3.6L V6 24V VVT
Quick Order Package 23R
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
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Old 10-08-2013, 05:29 PM   #14
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Hit it... would be my advice. Sooner ordered, sooner to wheelin.
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Old 10-08-2013, 05:35 PM   #15
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Well what I started seeing was that these Sport S's with the wheels and bells and whistles are entering Rubicon pricing! So may as well pay a tad extra and just get a Rubi!

Here's a Rubicon I'm looking at that's the same price as these sports. By doing the 6 speed manual, I save some cash, and stay true to the purist experience!

Dual Top Group ($2,185)
Black 3-Piece Hard Top
Premium Black Sunrider Soft Top
Delete Sunrider Soft Top
Freedom Panel Storage Bag
Rear Window Defroster
Rear Window Wiper/Washer
Sunrider Soft Top

Connectivity Group ($495)
Remote USB Port
Tire Pressure Monitoring Display
Uconnect Voice Command w/Bluetooth
Vehicle Information Center

Max Tow Package ($395)
Class II Receiver Hitch
Trailer Tow w/4-Pin Connector Wiring

Additional Options

50 State Emissions
Cloth Bucket Seats
Engine: 3.6L V6 24V VVT
Quick Order Package 23R
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
See now you're getting somewhere.
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Old 10-08-2013, 05:41 PM   #16
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Sorry but a soft top is not quieter then a hard top. That's gotta b 1 of the dumbest things I've seen on this forum lol no offense
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Old 10-08-2013, 05:43 PM   #17
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The stick is a LOT more fun imo. The powers just always there when you hit it and it never has to search for the gears, i know its not a 0-60 drag car but ive eaten a couple hyundai's and v6 mustangs in my 2 door sport. That Rubicon option sounds great man i'm looking forward to seeing it on the forums
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Old 10-08-2013, 05:47 PM   #18
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Sorry but a soft top is not quieter then a hard top. That's gotta b 1 of the dumbest things I've seen on this forum lol no offense
This. It's not a major difference but a hardtop is definitely quieter.
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Go with the Rubicon if you can afford it. I wouldn't suggest 3.21 ever.

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Old 10-08-2013, 07:26 PM   #20
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I had an 08 JKU Sahara with the hard top and took the entire top off 3 times in a year and kept it off for a day each time. It was a total pain in the butt to take off, store it, and put it back on all without damaging it or my back! Couldnt keep it off overnight due to security and unpredictable weather. I did remove the front panels a few times but still had to plan it just right or I would get caught in a storm (or a cold night drive home) with no panels. I traded the 08 in and got a 14 JKU Sahara with a soft top a couple months ago and I LOVE the soft top! I have a 5 mile (15min) commute and many times I take 2 mins to pull the top back, drive home, and take another 1.5 mins to pull the top back on. WAY EASIER! As for noise hard top vs. soft top, honestly they seem to be about the same for wind noise, but with the soft top I do hear other vehicles more. While on the freeway I use my uconnect bluetooth and can still hear and be heard just fine. Overall I would take my soft top over the hardtop any day! Good luck on whatever you decide to do!
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Go automatic. One less thing you have deal while wheeling or when in traffic. Been on couple of runs where all you smell is burning clutch.
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I don't know about your area, but here a rubi with basically the same options is close to $10k more than a Sport.

$32K vs $42K

Since we are not going to rock crawl, we chose the JKU Sport-S package with trac-lok
Front lockers cost $1400 installed here. Plenty of money left over for other mods.
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Go automatic. One less thing you have deal while wheeling or when in traffic. Been on couple of runs where all you smell is burning clutch.
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Old 10-09-2013, 06:28 AM   #24
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I don't know about your area, but here a rubi with basically the same options is close to $10k more than a Sport.

$32K vs $42K

Since we are not going to rock crawl, we chose the JKU Sport-S package with trac-lok
Front lockers cost $1400 installed here. Plenty of money left over for other mods.
Have to take more into consideration than just the lockers when getting the Rubicon

Dana 44 axles
4:1 transfer case
4:10 gearing for autos and 3:73 gearing for manuals (at least that is what it used to be)
32 inch tires
Rocker rails
1 inch of extra lift
Electric lockers
Electric disconnect on the sway bar
Skid protection

More than sure I am forgetting a thing or two. Everything you need to wheel a level 5 or even 6 trail and have no worries. I do know people that have bought and S or X with the intention of just stripping it and modding everything but those people go Dana 60's, 5 inch lifts with 40's.

A good thing about Jeeps, there really is no right or wrong way to do it.
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Old 10-09-2013, 07:36 AM   #25
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Sorry but a soft top is not quieter then a hard top. That's gotta b 1 of the dumbest things I've seen on this forum lol no offense
X2. Might be quicker/easier to take down/off and store but definately not more quiet. Also, Jeeps are NOT trucks, they're Jeeps. Want a quality truck, go look at GM/Ford/Ram trucks. Good luck finding the exact Wrangler you want and enjoy !!
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Stretch to the Rubicon WITH the hardtop. You can pick up a soft top on Craigslist pretty cheap. I would get as close as you can to the Jeep you want from the dealer. You might put the BOOM Mat into the hard top for added dampening. I got the Sahara Altitude 2012 and then went crazy on upgrades. I like the painted fenders but they scratch easy.
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If it's your DD, and since there isn't much "rock crawling" in Ct., I'd go with the Sport or Sahara, and a 3.21-1 axle. If you're in the city, or do lots of "in town" driving, the automatic is the way to go. If you are in the 'burbs or countryside, then the 6 spd is enjoyable. I live in the woods, and do lots of backroad (dirt) and secondary road driving, so I'm prejudiced towards the manual.
I wouldn't spend money on any options that I wasn't going to use.
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Old 10-10-2013, 11:32 AM   #28
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You guys are absolutely awesome and I appreciate the feedback. Other car forums are rarely this communicative to FNGs.
I ended up pulling the trigger on a heavily discounted RUBICON with the options I listed above. Basically a $39K truck for about $35k! SAME MONEY AS THE SPORT S WITH OPTIONS!
MAX TOW
CONNECTIVITY
DUAL TOP
DONE!



My other car is a very well optioned, dual clutch sedan with over 600hp and is quiet, quick bla bla bla. I need something different and that will remind me of my old 68 short wheel base land rover with more creature comforts. Bingo Rubicon.


And, well you gotta have at least 1 6 speed manual car in the driveway!
I will take it off road, but like knowing I can, and also my zombie apocalypse mobile. I live in the burbs but we get pounded with storms that down trees, and leave rocks on
the road etc. The Unlimited Rubi is going to be perfect.
I pick her up this time tomorrow! Boom!!
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Test drive a 3.21 and a 3.73 before you decide. The 3.73 has LOADS more power. It's much, much more fun to drive. The 3.21 feels sedate, the 3.73 is an absolute blast to drive.

If you think you want a soft top, order a jeep with a soft top. The hard top is noisy -- the soft top is actually considerably quieter. I would only get a hard top if I lived in the north where that awful white stuff accumulates in this season they call "winter". It's such an effort to take the hard top off, requires a garage and a winch, or a buddy and still a place to store it is necessary. Soft top comes down in a few minutes.

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In principal I agree with you (regarding hartop removal), but after you get your roof hoist setup how you like it, and get used to the process of removing the hardtop it becomes quite easy. I will take mine off for a few hours even if rain is in the forecast tomorrow. (did that yesterday)

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The plan regarding top will be to take it off in the spring, and back on in the fall, the way I did with my rover. Dual top was part of the appeal, and being able to delete the soft top in the winter for space, and remove the front sections off fall/winter for nice days. To me that makes sense!

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