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Old 02-03-2011, 05:08 PM   #31
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I just got my magnifying glass out and I can now see that there are tiny pictures of something there....

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Old 02-07-2011, 01:31 PM   #32
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How do these differ from the WADE Sky Top panels for JK that came out back in 2008?

Other than the obvious vast difference in price...

Skytop Front Impact Acrylic High Gloss Smoke*WAP-51062 by the Jeep Specialists at Morris 4x4 Center

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Old 02-07-2011, 01:41 PM   #33
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I just got my magnifying glass out and I can now see that there are tiny pictures of something there....
Thats what she said...
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Old 02-07-2011, 02:40 PM   #34
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How do these differ from the WADE Sky Top panels for JK that came out back in 2008?
Looks to me like the Skytop is for a soft top JK.
The incredibly expensive panels being discussed here are for hard tops.


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Old 02-07-2011, 06:05 PM   #35
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Like everyone else, I'd say around $500-600 tops.

I'd rather see a one piece clear acrylic, that covers the front seats but is almost all transparent in the middle. It looks funny having 2 moonroofs like that IMO

I bet you could get a factory in china pushing out some moulds pretty easily, hint hint aftermarket people..
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Old 07-19-2011, 11:21 AM   #36
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Factory front panels on Quadratic are $459 so I would say $600 but that price is pushing it IMO.
The price quoted is for one panel everyone. That puts replacement cost at $900 for a set, without the benfit of the Jeetops panel. Here is onother link from another site Jeep Hardtops by Mopar for your Jeep Wrangler JK & Wrangler Unlimited JK from your Jeep Parts Specialist with a bargain on an OEM panels the pair are just $828.98 ()without the shipping. So your in the vacinity of around $400 for the upgrade. They are warrantied not to leak or break for 5 years/50,000 miles. The rear panels are available now as well. Visit www.jeetops.com
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Old 07-19-2011, 11:35 AM   #37
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its an interesting idea, but they use your tops...
Wade makes this:
Skytop Sun Roof Wade Jeep Wrangler JK

Its pretty close, definately not water-tight, but you don't lose your panels and is cheaper.
I like the idea, but I have a soft top so not appealing here. My mom wants the wade top so its like having a sun-roof without the direct sunshine. (it's super hot here)
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Old 07-19-2011, 01:05 PM   #38
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The price quoted is for one panel everyone. That puts replacement cost at $900 for a set, without the benfit of the Jeetops panel. Here is onother link from another site Jeep Hardtops by Mopar for your Jeep Wrangler JK & Wrangler Unlimited JK from your Jeep Parts Specialist with a bargain on an OEM panels the pair are just $828.98 ()without the shipping. So your in the vacinity of around $400 for the upgrade. They are warrantied not to leak or break for 5 years/50,000 miles. The rear panels are available now as well. Visit www.jeetops.com
Cool concept and FAIRLY decent cost for someone who just happens to be in need of replacement panels, but priced way high for someone who already has the panels. (There are always just too many other mods in queue and the price just pushes this one way down the priority chain)
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Old 07-19-2011, 01:31 PM   #39
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Cool concept and FAIRLY decent cost for someone who just happens to be in need of replacement panels, but priced way high for someone who already has the panels. (There are always just too many other mods in queue and the price just pushes this one way down the priority chain)
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Old 07-19-2011, 01:40 PM   #40
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Definitely not acrylic...or the hammer would have shattered it. Lexan (polycarbonate) is probably what they are made of. I own a graphic sign shop...and learned years ago that signs made with acrylic have a short life span-made to die young and get replaced all the time. Even freezing and getting hit can shatter them...polycarb, although more expensive...outlasts acrylic by years and years.
This is not entirely accurate. If you go to the store and buy acrylic and hit it with a hammer, yes it will shatter. However, nobody in their right mind would make anything that needed to be durable out of regular acrylic. The little known secret is that if you heat a sheet of acrylic up to about 400 degrees and stretch it to about four times its original surface area it becomes much more usable. Stretched acrylic is a great material for something like this. It has all the attributes of polycarbonate, but while maintaining the scratch resistance, chemical and dimensional stability and UV resistant properties of acrylic. This is the stuff they make light lenses on airliners from and it will take a bird strike in flight. The only real penalty of acrylic is weight, but that isn't an issue here. On an airliner some of the lenses use a thin layer of stretched acrylic fused over a thicker load bearing sheet of polycarbonate to reduce the weight. I don't see how that is worth the expense, but it's not my money or airplane. If I was going to build panels like these stretched acrylic is what I would use.
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Old 07-19-2011, 02:07 PM   #41
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I like these and might pay a grand IF they were their own separate panels that could function as replacements.
I also do have a Wade skytop and the whole family loves it. It really does cut down the heat and wind while making you feel like things are open.
I think I would like a combo of these two products best; something that was a single sheet of acrylic (or stretched acryilc ) that anchored in the same way the front Freedom Top panels do, and was waterproof.
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This is not entirely accurate. If you go to the store and buy acrylic and hit it with a hammer, yes it will shatter. However, nobody in their right mind would make anything that needed to be durable out of regular acrylic. The little known secret is that if you heat a sheet of acrylic up to about 400 degrees and stretch it to about four times its original surface area it becomes much more usable. Stretched acrylic is a great material for something like this. It has all the attributes of polycarbonate, but while maintaining the scratch resistance, chemical and dimensional stability and UV resistant properties of acrylic. This is the stuff they make light lenses on airliners from and it will take a bird strike in flight. The only real penalty of acrylic is weight, but that isn't an issue here. On an airliner some of the lenses use a thin layer of stretched acrylic fused over a thicker load bearing sheet of polycarbonate to reduce the weight. I don't see how that is worth the expense, but it's not my money or airplane. If I was going to build panels like these stretched acrylic is what I would use.
Well said. F-16 cockpit windows are also made of Acrylic.(solid acrylic I'm told) The reason Polycarb parts are more expensive is because it is processed at higher temps, takes more additives to stabilize for heat and weathering, more sensitive to moisture and needs to be dried before processing. However, Acrylic itself is not as "heavy" as polycarb, generally you need a thicker piece of Acrylic to achieve the same impact resistance of Polycarb.
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My bad, a little off topic. Those clear tops would not sell much here. We are trying to insulate our hardtops due to the heat. I wouldn't want to let more light in.

I checked their website, is it an optical illusion that the clear windows look about a square foot when they show photos from outside and about the size of the whole panel from the inside?
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Well said. F-16 cockpit windows are also made of Acrylic.(solid acrylic I'm told) The reason Polycarb parts are more expensive is because it is processed at higher temps, takes more additives to stabilize for heat and weathering, more sensitive to moisture and needs to be dried before processing. However, Acrylic itself is not as "heavy" as polycarb, generally you need a thicker piece of Acrylic to achieve the same impact resistance of Polycarb.
And you have to hardcoat polycarb to give it any scratch resistance at all. In an application like this it would have to be on both sides as well. Even then the hardcoat is only as durable as the substrate because that controls how well the coating sticks.
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Glad to have you all talking about this again. The material used for Jeetops, is an impact modified acrylic, and they are permanently bonded, air and water tight. they are also tinted and will reduce the cabin temperature, because they don't absorb anywhere near as much heat as the stock black spatter painted top. There would really be no need for your stock freedom top, once you have them. Just leave them on rain or shine. Or pop them off just like you would if you had stock tops for open are wheeling.
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The Jeetops are about twice as dark as the privacy glass from Mopar, with the UV protection they provide its like having an outstanding pair of high end sunglasses to look through.

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