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Old 05-15-2013, 06:29 PM   #1
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What does the "European Lights" Running light option do in SC Flashcal

I was playing with enabling running lights on my 2012 JK using the SuperChips Flashcal programmer.

I chose the "European Light" option under the running lights menu.

I can't tell that it does anything. I put it in drive and release the handbrake and there was no sign of running lights turning on. What am I missing?

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Old 09-05-2013, 12:41 PM   #2
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I was playing with enabling running lights on my 2012 JK using the SuperChips Flashcal programmer.

I chose the "European Light" option under the running lights menu.

I can't tell that it does anything. I put it in drive and release the handbrake and there was no sign of running lights turning on. What am I missing?
Bump... I'm still wondering.... I'm running European Running Lights option in my Flashcal and so far I see no evidence of any running lights... Maybe they only turn on when I take the Jeep to Europe or drive over 100mph ?

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Old 09-13-2013, 10:36 AM   #3
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Maybe you should call Superchips tech support and ask them? I'm sure they'd know.
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I did the day time running lights option with my AEV Procal. The only way I could tell if they came on was to get out of the Jeep and look. It has to be in drive. No light on the dash will come on. I don't know if this will help any.
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I was playing with enabling running lights on my 2012 JK using the SuperChips Flashcal programmer.

I chose the "European Light" option under the running lights menu.

I can't tell that it does anything. I put it in drive and release the handbrake and there was no sign of running lights turning on. What am I missing?
Turn the headlights on and see if the front parking lights/blinkers are on. IIRC in Europe when the headlights are on the blinkers only come on when you are signalling a turn.
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Not sure if this is it or not; but in Europe when you park your vehicle and turn on either the left or right directional the left or right parking light will turn on, steady light. This is so other drivers will see your parked vehicle on narrow European streets. Vehicle must be off with the key removed.
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Old 09-13-2013, 04:26 PM   #7
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hope this help

okay, north american wranglers comes equipped with H13 headlights



wrangler with european standards comes with Hella e code headlights




if you see closely in this image, you'll find small black hole below the middle... this is the DRL that you're talking about..

maybe I'm wrong, but this is what i know
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I believe the European running lights option creates the following changes:

- they only work half the day, and are completely inoperable for three hours in the middle of the day
- when they do work, they do so half heartedly and in a direction of their choosing
- at times one light may take offence to the other and refuse to do anything until the driver has spent an hour consoling it
- both lights will object to being told what to do by an American vehicle
- despite being largely useless they will both look effortlessly stylish
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In Europe in some countries you have to drive all day long with lights (for some safety reason) and turning this on will just turn on the light everytime you start the car so you dont forget it. BUT i dont know why it is an option in an american car, because the reason why we in europe cant just import an american car is because of the lights. We usually have to switch the lights out for example the hella`s someone was talking about and they will be on all day long........

(I know that, because im from europe...)
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In Europe in some countries you have to drive all day long with lights (for some safety reason) and turning this on will just turn on the light everytime you start the car so you dont forget it. BUT i dont know why it is an option in an american car, because the reason why we in europe cant just import an american car is because of the lights. We usually have to switch the lights out for example the hella`s someone was talking about and they will be on all day long........

(I know that, because im from europe...)
All new vehicles sold in or imported to Canada have to be fitted with DRL.
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I believe the European running lights option creates the following changes:

- they only work half the day, and are completely inoperable for three hours in the middle of the day
- when they do work, they do so half heartedly and in a direction of their choosing
- at times one light may take offence to the other and refuse to do anything until the driver has spent an hour consoling it
- both lights will object to being told what to do by an American vehicle
- despite being largely useless they will both look effortlessly stylish
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Here, when you turn the light switch one step the amber parking lights turn on. In europe, they don't use amber parking lights. Instead they have "city lights". So, when you turn the switch one step, your normal lights glow but don't fully turn on. Germany also has the indicator parking light as previously mentioned.
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When I talked with Superchips support they told me that "European Running Lights" simply means what we would normally call running lights... the headlights should come on somewhat dimmer than normal.

Well they don't do that with the option on so they told me I needed to update the Flashcal... I updated to 3.00.15

Still no joy. I called them back and they've opened up a case to investigate so in answer to my thread "European Running Lights" simply means what we would normally call running lights... the headlights should come on somewhat dimmer than normal.

If someone is successfully using this option with the Flashcal I'd be curious to know the year / model of your Jeep.
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When I talked with Superchips support they told me that "European Running Lights" simply means what we would normally call running lights... the headlights should come on somewhat dimmer than normal.

Well they don't do that with the option on so they told me I needed to update the Flashcal... I updated to 3.00.15

Still no joy. I called them back and they've opened up a case to investigate so in answer to my thread "European Running Lights" simply means what we would normally call running lights... the headlights should come on somewhat dimmer than normal.

If someone is successfully using this option with the Flashcal I'd be curious to know the year / model of your Jeep.
I don't see how this would work. European running lights are dimmer than the normal running lights because they use an entirely different set of bulbs. They are more like tail light bulbs. I'm not sure if this is true for the JK.
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Update:

Superchips support emailed me to let me know they had an update to the FlashCal. The European Running Lights option now works on my 2012 JK. It illuminates the Low Beams at half intensity when the parking brake is off and the vehicle is not in Park.

Great support from Superchips!!!
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Another update...

The latest firmware Flashcal release (as of yesterday) also correctly enabled the use of "Low Beams" as a running light option. The "European Lights" option is too dim to be useful and flickers badly on the 2012 when enabled. So I'm using the "Low Beams" running light option and it's what I was looking for.

The Superchips folks have been very responsive getting this to work. Kudos to a good company.
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I recently bought the FlashCal 3570 for my 2013 JK and decided to play with the DRL option since apparently DRL is not enabled on US models but the computer supports it since they are operable (and/or transferable) in Canada.

The options behave as follows. The vehicle must be running with the parking brake off for a stick (which is what I have); I think for automatic it must be running and in drive. Note that I have standard H13 bulbs (actually Philips XTreme Power) and not LED (which might behave differently).

High beams - runs the high beams when the light switch is off or in marker light position; once in the on position it reverts to normal behavior.

Low beams - same, except runs low beams.

European - same, but runs bulb in a very dim mode. I find this to not be sufficient for any safety purpose since it is so dim.

Fog lights - runs the fog lights when the light switch is off or in marker light position; once in the on position it reverts to normal behavior (you need to explicitly pull the stalk tip to turn the fog lights back on).

Turn signals - runs the front turn signal bulbs in bright mode when the light switch is off or in marker light position; operating the turn signals repeatedly turns off the intended directional; with the light control in the on position it reverts to normal behavior (front turn signals at dim brightness and repeatedly brightening the intended directional when used).

Personally I like the turn signal and fog light modes as being somewhat distinctive.

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