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Old 02-29-2012, 01:34 PM   #31
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Old 02-29-2012, 04:10 PM   #32
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We have Marine gas in town (ethanol free) but it is .50 more expensive than regular. The ethonol free gas is ALL I run in my lawn esuipment and motorcycles. Ethanol is nasty stuff and gums up small carbs really easily, let alone eating up the small plastic fuel lines. Corn is for eatin, not burning in an engine....
That may be the case on paper but every one I know runs ethanol in there small engines. I've been landscaping for 18 years. We've been using ethanol in all our small engines ever since we could get it it's cheaper runs fine never had a problem in small engines. "Corn is for eating not burning" If you wish to eat cow corn ( which is what ethanol is made from) you can give it hell. But I can promise you it won't taste good.

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Old 02-29-2012, 05:52 PM   #33
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Same here. I've never even seen 85 until I moved here. I've recently lived in OH and NC and both the lowest is 87.

On a side note my Jeep gets terrible gas mileage. I drove it here from Raleigh, NC last month (only has 2500 miles on it) and I got like 16mpg the whole way on the highway. Was hoping to be closer to the 20-21 on the stick for highway.

Pretty much anytime I check it says like 14.5mpg average.
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Old 02-29-2012, 06:34 PM   #34
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its all the same crap...

i watched the same gas truck pull out and enter 3 different gas stations , exxon, bp, and sunoco... same truck... wether they add different things while they are there.. not sure on that one..
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Old 02-29-2012, 06:53 PM   #35
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its all the same crap...

i watched the same gas truck pull out and enter 3 different gas stations , exxon, bp, and sunoco... same truck... wether they add different things while they are there.. not sure on that one..

That is correct, it is all the same fuel stock just different additives
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I have 400 miles now and am fixing to go one way or the other. Ethanol or not (100% gas). Which do u think would be better on the engine. I've heard the no ethanol is better. A little more expensive but better mpg.
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I have 400 miles now and am fixing to go one way or the other. Ethanol or not (100% gas). Which do u think would be better on the engine. I've heard the no ethanol is better. A little more expensive but better mpg.
There are actual engines out there meant to run ethanol and even then they tell you to run straight gas every 2-3 tanks. The 3.8 or 3.6 are not one of those engines. That doesnt mean that it would blow up if you run a little ethanol every know and then.
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Old 02-29-2012, 07:35 PM   #38
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87 octane regular. Around here they are not required to label the pump if it is an ethanol blend (10%). Most of the gas, if not all, in this area is ethanol blend so we really have no choice. All vehicles produced today and for the last 10 or so years are made to run on the 10% ethanol blend. Some are built to run E85(flex fuel vehicle) but you can not run it in a vehicle that it is not designed for. E85 designed vehicles have a yellow gas cap.
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There are actual engines out there meant to run ethanol and even then they tell you to run straight gas every 2-3 tanks. The 3.8 or 3.6 are not one of those engines. That doesnt mean that it would blow up if you run a little ethanol every know and then.
True enough about the Wrangler not being flex fuel (15% ethanol) approved. Not true that the Pentastar 3.6 engine is not Flex Fuel capable. It is used in the 2012 Chrysler 200, 300 and Jeep Grand Cherokee which are flex fuel capable. Supposedly all vehicles are 10% ethanol capable although I think you would be nuts to run any of the vintage, muscle car, big blocks on 10% ethanol.

Unfortunately, we have no choice in the People's Republic of New Yourk whether to run pure gas or 10%. All gas is mandated to be 10% ethanol. Although this reduces MPG significantly, we are supposed to enjoy the social responsibility of reducing carbon emissions by about 20% over straight gas and pay the price in more fuel burned. We also are supposed to overlook the energy cost (in petrochemicals) to produce ethanol from corn is 1:1. Math says therefore zero carbon reduction.

It MAY very well make sense somewhere with the right production material. Brazil does a pretty good job, for example, with ethanol.
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Old 02-29-2012, 07:43 PM   #41
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100% gasoline in East Tennessee. Ethanol has gummed up my small engines and outboard motor. Yes it is field corn but with government subsidies there is more profit to be made on it and less people corn is produced meaning there is less people corn grown and it makes its price go up and its availability go down. Just ask people in Haiti and Mexico who can't afford to buy corn to make tortillas anymore.
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Old 02-29-2012, 07:43 PM   #42
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I cant believe they would,nt label your fuel for having ethanol in it. That does'nt seem right. Here In good old neb. they do hell there's an ethanol plant a half hour away in any direction you drive. I'm dead serious about that to. But ya they mark all our fuel here so you know what your getting. I did hear that In calf. it's the same way all fuel has ethanol in it. Don't know if it's marked or not though.
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Old 02-29-2012, 08:02 PM   #44
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I give up I argued with some other gentlemen about a month ago. All I do know is the economy is great around here and farmers are doing great rather then struggling to get by. So yeah for ethanol
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What part of Nebraska? I grew up in Lincoln.
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Old 02-29-2012, 08:12 PM   #46
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What part of Nebraska? I grew up in Lincoln.
I live in GI right know just moved here from Kearney. Lived in lincoln for about 5 years though. I have alot of family and freands that are farmers and cattle farmers so the subject hits home when people talk down about ethanol. I have seen it first hand do good for people in this state.
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Old 02-29-2012, 08:23 PM   #47
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Yep, all gas here is 10% ethanol. I usually fill up at the Kwik Fill right near work and only use 87 octane. All North American oil and refined here in the States. On top of that it's still cheaper than the big dogs.
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Old 03-01-2012, 05:16 AM   #48
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Only use shell power here cost 100 to fill her up but I notice smoother running and will get 19 MPG in busy city traffic
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Old 03-01-2012, 07:23 AM   #49
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Shell 87. On a recent trip up north all I could get was Irving 87. No problems with it. I ONLY see Shell trucks deliver Shell------now I don't see them fill up so I don't know if it all comes from the same place as has been stated.........but that is something I WOULD like to know.
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Old 03-01-2012, 06:59 PM   #50
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My jeep has had 87 regular - Ethanol free for every tank except for the first 2 tanks the dealership put in it. We used to use premium in our van and then switched to regular ethanol free. I was amazed to discover I got better mpg with the regular ethanol free than I was getting with 10% ethanol premium.

My favorite mom & pop gas station stopped carrying ethanol free recently. They said it was too expensive to get brought in. : / Luckily, there is another station in my little town that is still ethanol free. For how long, I don't know. I'm sure the government will get rid of it at some point.
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Old 03-01-2012, 07:57 PM   #51
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I use 87 octane and put in a bottle of fuel injector cleaner once a month.
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Old 03-01-2012, 10:01 PM   #52
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I run 85 in mine...always have. Usually get 17mpg, so not complaining.
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Old 03-01-2012, 10:10 PM   #53
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It calls for "regular" in the manual, that's what I run.

Running "better" fuels might not be that beneficial, as the computer regulates all that stuff.
yeap... it is true... that's what the manual says... i used to put Super... but after i read the manual <<trying to find something else>> i put 87... better quality is not doing any performance...

unbelievable..!!

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All snake oil-- pure snake oil at its finest!! I hauled refined petroleum products( gasoline, diesel fuel; propane, butane, etc) for about 17 years. I KNOW what it all is! Load Gas at a Cenex terminal and take to a Shell station. Brand name-- ya right!!
Load 87 octane-- take to bulk dealer and he does,nt have room in his tank; so he says to unload into the 91 octane tank!! 91 octane-- ya right!!
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So what is this mythical ethanol-free gas everyone has been talking about? I haven't seen this creature in many moons around these parts.......
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Old 03-02-2012, 07:13 AM   #56
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Many places do not have non ethanol gas any more; Here in ND we can still get straight NL gas 87 octane. anything higher octane has ethanol; in it.
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Old 03-02-2012, 07:39 AM   #57
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I've been told the stations with regular non ethanol gas, which here in Oklahoma you can get 87 89 and 91 octane , they haven't changed over because the cant afford the new equipment. Ie new tanks, hoses, filter system, ect. They don't just empty the tank and fill it up with the ethanol gases. But that's what I've been told.
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don't have any stations in my area but there might be some in yours. Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but unless you are tuned for running higher octane, it doesn't make a difference. Except to lighten your wallet.
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i use taco bell bean buritos.. they propell nicely, but leave a bad after taste if windows are up..

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