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Old 03-01-2012, 09:51 PM   #1
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Smile Whats the best winch.

Finally got my lift installed with help from many of you guys. Now ready to do front bumper and winch. I like the Warn Elite. Looking for a reasonable winch. Have never had to use one, but better to put one on with bumper install. Thats what I have read. Don't want to spend a lot of money. And want a synthetic cable. Any suggestions please.

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by 'reasonable', I assume you are talking about the cost. Warn has VR-entry series winches that are reasonably priced. You could get the whole setup from just about any vendor on this forum, with a nice discount.

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What AZDuck said...the VR series now comes with synthetic cable, which is less dangerous and far lighter than wire cable. Lotta bang for the buck with those winches.

Couple of links:

Synthetic rope vs. Steel cable
Massive Multi-Winch Shootout - Four Wheeler Magazine

And one to the WARN site's VR winch page. Whatever you decide to buy, make sure you plug the mfr # into Amazon; sometimes you can find the best price there (and sometimes not).

http://www.warn.com/truck/winches/en..._winches.shtml
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Thanks for the help guys. I am taking donations. Is starts to get expensive.
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Thanks for the help guys. I am taking donations. Is starts to get expensive.
You donate $100 to my jeep fund. I'll donate $25 to yours... Deal?
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Old 03-03-2012, 06:37 AM   #6
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jsmithtx i bought a smittybilt 8kxrc pro comp w/synn rope for $459 delivered from 4wheel parts love it works great right now they have a deal buy a certain brand bumper and recieve that winch for $100 saw it in had to look it up its any ARB bull bar bumper and get the smittybilt xrc8k pro comp for $99 helps offset cost of bumper saw it in march issue of off road adventures magazine page 73 top right corner of page good luck joe
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Old 03-03-2012, 07:24 AM   #7
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Look at the ENGO. 4wheeler magazine did a comparison. Pretty impressive for the money....

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I am saving for Smittybilt X2O comp 10. Nice looking fairlead, synthetic line, 10k cap, water proof, and life time warranty. Their website has a link where several shop sell it for 650. And they have a YouTube vid of it submerged for a month and still running underwater.
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Old 03-03-2012, 11:58 AM   #10
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This should turn into a thread like this.

Whats the best winch under 300 dollars?
Whats the best winch under 500 dollars?
Whats the best winch under 1,000 dollars?

Or I'm only going to use my winch, a couple times a year when I go out, and thats IF i get stuck. What should I get?

More people find THAT information valuable. Lol.
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Or this one that includes: 10ft Tree Saver / Tow Strap, 2 Bow Shackles and a Snatch Block and Free Neoprene Waterproof Cover.

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I'll check on that Joe. Thanks. Steve you put it better than I did.
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Old 03-03-2012, 06:41 PM   #13
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I wonder if Viper makes one that fits/good (big) enough for the Jeep? I have one on my atv and they are great. Seems to be holding up well and a fraction of the cost of a Warn. MotoAlliance sells the Viper but not sure if they make one for our needs?
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If you don't think you will be using it much the Warn VR series are great winches. These are a series wound motor vs. some of the other manufacturers that use a permanent magnet style motor on their entry level winches. The series wound motor will draw a little more current but are more stout in their design and provide better longevity overall.

If you feel you want to step up to a winch for a more frequent use then the Warn XD or M series are great winches. If you want a compressor for airing up tires prior to heading back to the pavement take a look at the Warn Powerplant HP(9500 lb.) or even HD(12000 lb.) winches.

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is the m8274 still the holly grail of winches?
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is the m8274 still the holly grail of winches?
Speed of the winch motor is not at the top of my list. I still like the PowerPlant better - use it every time I'm out wheeling.
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is it in the top three?
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is it in the top three?
I actually got the HD over the HP. The HD is slower, but I like that it draws less current when it’s running (because of the reduced gearing).

I figured I would only need a winch in an emergency - for me or someone else - and my wife and I are out wheeling by ourselves a lot, so I figured I needed a winch. I really liked the PowerPlant because of the compressor - I air down all of the time, so it’s nice to have a really good compressor to air back up. When winching I wanted to minimize the stress on the electrical systems. The HD draws 318 amps at 8,000 lbs, the HP draws 420 amps, and the 8274 draws 450 amps. I also figured a longer line would be helpful so I have a 135’ synthetic rope. It looks like the 8274 can hold more rope than the HD and HP.

If I was into competition, where every second counts, than the speed of the pull would be important. So far when I’ve winched someone out (done it 4 or 5 times now), I’ve never been in a hurry…
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Installed an 8274 on my 78 FJ40 when it was new. Both are still working great all these years later. I was so impressed with the Warn, I bought a 9.5cti for my new Rubi. I believe I received value for my money then, and now.
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Warn M8274



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My first car still own, its at my dads farm looking to see how I can ship it here

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P.S I bought the winch used at an auction re wired it and still runs till today
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Old 03-17-2012, 01:39 AM   #22
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Warn. Holds up the best! Most of the others will rust and corrode their control boxes must sooner.
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dang, 3rd place and close to 700 dollars cheaper than 1st and 2nd? must be doing something the others don't know about.
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I just purchased an Engo E-10000 with Synthetic rope for $426 shipped from the JeepHut if you are interested the 8500lb is even cheaper.
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I just bought a used 8274 gonna rebuild with a few minor modification
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Old 03-22-2012, 10:16 AM   #26
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If you willing to fork out the extra cash, I have have seen this setup pull truck out of impossible places.

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Bah, such an opinion based question and one people feel strongly about. Here is mine. Warn's are over priced, even their VR series is expensive to me. TONS of smittybilts out there that perform great. The Engo, IMO out performed the superwinch and warn in the shoot out and can be had at under $400. I have the Recon 10,500LB. It is waterproof, came with synth line, and a wireless controller. Had good reviews. If the winch saves your ass once then it is worth it. Busting up a sub $400 winch is an easier pill to swallow than a $1000 winch.

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yup 8274 or nothing.....I have an original 1979 Jeep 8274 dad bought brand new going on my GE
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Or this one that includes: 10ft Tree Saver / Tow Strap, 2 Bow Shackles and a Snatch Block and Free Neoprene Waterproof Cover.

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The winch debate is as old as the Chevy vs. Ford debate and the emotions are just as much on the surface.

Years ago when I started wrenching I got to know a gentleman at a shop that we had rewind some of our electric motors at work. I went to his shop one day and he had a few winch motors that he was rewinding for a local off-road shop. We got talking about winches and he told me that there were some decent winch manufacturers out there and there was one that everyone else wanted to be.

I don't want to get into bashing brands on a forum so I will not mention any other brands but he saw very, very few Warn motors in his shop compared to the hundreds of the others. One thing he told me that stuck with me after some testing was that one brand that claimed to be as good if not better than Warn at the time had a series wound motor that when run @ 80% of rated capacity the motor would degrade by approx. 10% each time it was up against that much current. Obviously permanent magnet motors will be more so but are mainly for occassion use whereas series would motors are more for continuous use even though they do pull a few more amps.

If using a winch once in a while or as a back up for an emergency that one pull would more than likely be sufficient to do the job so it was not a concern and very few people used their winches enough to degradate their motors to the point of noticing any deminishing performance.

That said, I have always had a different theory on everything, not just winches. I try to purchase the best I can afford rather than something to "just get me by". I understand money is tight and other peoples opinions may differ but I research and buy the best product I can and if I cannot afford it at the time, I save until I can. This philosophy has served me well for the past 20+ years of my professional career whether it is tools, lawn/garden equipment, supplies and even winches.

I beleive Warn developed the VR series to merely compete with the others and not "cheapen" the series that put them where they are. I have been inside several Warn winches over the years and have been very impressed with the quality of the parts and components that make up a Warn winch, from gears and bushings down to each O-ring/seal. Not all winches are created equal and price should not be the only deciding factor.

For me it is Warn and nothing else. I want it to work at rated capacity whether I am using it once or ten times a day.

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