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Old 09-06-2011, 01:41 PM   #1
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Whats the difference between....

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A BL, BB, And real lift.

Due to my, financial difficulties a full lift seems a bit out of reach (needing new tires...etc)

Therefore I have been reading about BL and BB.

NOW, 1" BL just doesn't seem like its worth it, but I hear its "affordable"

BB seems almost dangerous.

Can someone shed some insight?

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Old 09-06-2011, 01:49 PM   #2
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Nothing dangerous or bad about a BB if installed correctly. They are great and affordable. Many get them and wheel them without issue for many years.

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Old 09-06-2011, 01:50 PM   #3
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BL = "Body Lift." Uses spacers on top of the frame to lift the body off the frame. Giving the appearance of a higher Jeep, but without actually moving the frame any higher off the ground or farther from the axles. Has some unsightly side effects insofar as it reveals portions of the chassis and generally requires some kind of fix for the steering linkage that will no longer be at the proper angle.

BB = "Budget Boost." Uses spacers on top of the coil springs to lift the frame (body included) higher into the air and farther away from the axles. Generally requires something to elogate your stock shocks (or new shocks) and may require some track bar work depending on the height. A few other details too.

"Real Lift" = Equals new, taller coils in place of your stock coil springs. Same issues as to shock length, track bars, etc. as with BBs.

For limited finances you want a budget boost. They are no more dangerous than any other type of lift, which is to say they can all be disasterous if you screw them up. Proper installation of a budget boost can be accomplished in your driveway with common hand tools.
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Old 09-06-2011, 01:55 PM   #4
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Thanks MTH.

Any links to a kit, or a grocery list of what I may need?

I have done numerous garage installs so I should be able to git-r-done
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There's about 9 zillion available, all in different permutations.

The three key issues I've seen thus far that help folks narrow the field would be (a) desired height, (b) whether you want to keep the stock shocks and add extensions, get a kit that includes entry-level shocks, or get a kit with no shocks and buy high end shocks separately, and (c) whether you want a kit that lifts evenly or levels front-to-rear.

Pondering those issues, start looking over the kits here. As a good generic example, this AEV kit usually reviews well.
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Check out many different on line retailers to see whats available under "lift kits". See what your price range is then we can help more specifically once we and you know what kit your looking at. Also read up on many different kit here too http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/jk-...ews-25157.html
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Old 09-06-2011, 02:32 PM   #7
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Ok I will start reading some more.

Is it safe to say you can perform a BL and a BB, or Real lift together?

I dont think you can but just ironing out the small details.
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Ok I will start reading some more.

Is it safe to say you can perform a BL and a BB, or Real lift together?

I dont think you can but just ironing out the small details.
What do you mean by perform?
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Yes, but it would probably show pretty poor organization on your part.

Rough Country (and some others) sell some hybrid type lifts, where you get a 2" BB and a 1" BL together for example. This is okay I suppose, but you could have just installed a 3" BB or coil lift and been done.

Similarly, you could install a coil lift (what you're calling a "real lift") and put some coil spacers (a "BB") on top of the coils. But why not just get the appropriate sized coil lift from the get go?

The bottom line is that unlike TJs and prior Jeeps, JKs don't need much lift. 32" tires are stock. 33" tires can fit with some new wheels or wheel spacers, and though they'll hit the fender flares offroad you can pretty much fix that with 1.5" of lift. Head up to 2.5" or 3" of lift an you'll clear 35" tires. Add flat flares and you'd easily clear 37" tires. Or just scrap all the lifting, add flat flares, and clear 35" tires right out of the gate.

So there's not much reason to get more than 3" or so of lift. With that in mind, BBs on top of coil lifts and BLs in general are pretty much moot.
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What do you mean by perform?
Perform the installation....guess poor choice of words.

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Yes, but it would probably show pretty poor organization on your part.

Rough Country (and some others) sell some hybrid type lifts, where you get a 2" BB and a 1" BL together for example. This is okay I suppose, but you could have just installed a 3" BB or coil lift and been done.

Similarly, you could install a coil lift (what you're calling a "real lift") and put some coil spacers (a "BB") on top of the coils. But why not just get the appropriate sized coil lift from the get go?

The bottom line is that unlike TJs and prior Jeeps, JKs don't need much lift. 32" tires are stock. 33" tires can fit with some new wheels or wheel spacers, and though they'll hit the fender flares offroad you can pretty much fix that with 1.5" of lift. Head up to 2.5" or 3" of lift an you'll clear 35" tires. Add flat flares and you'd easily clear 37" tires. Or just scrap all the lifting, add flat flares, and clear 35" tires right out of the gate.

So there's not much reason to get more than 3" or so of lift. With that in mind, BBs on top of coil lifts and BLs in general are pretty much moot.
I like the AEV lift link you gave me for 2". I would rather go 2.5 though. Seems like a straight forward installation.

Does the ride quality suffer at all?
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If you like the 2.5" lift check out Clutches write-up on his install here http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/2-5...ed-108169.html
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I like the AEV lift link you gave me for 2". I would rather go 2.5 though. Seems like a straight forward installation.

Does the ride quality suffer at all?
And so here's a well reviewed 2.5" BB kit. There are many others.

If you choose a BB with shock extensions then you're suspension, literally, remains unchanged. (Same shocks/coils.) So the "ride" is the same.

However, you are changing some angles, which is why you'll see the "rear track bar bracket" included in the kit I just linked--it's designed to recenter your rear axle under the Jeep. I understand it's not strictly necessary for a 2.5" lift, but I'd expect the jeep would feel a little "darty" at highway speeds without it. You'll probably also need an alignment. Should be fine otherwise.
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If you like the 2.5" lift check out Clutches write-up on his install here http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/2-5...ed-108169.html
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And so here's a well reviewed 2.5" BB kit. There are many others.

If you choose a BB with shock extensions then you're suspension, literally, remains unchanged. (Same shocks/coils.) So the "ride" is the same.

However, you are changing some angles, which is why you'll see the "rear track bar bracket" included in the kit I just linked--it's designed to recenter your rear axle under the Jeep. I understand it's not strictly necessary for a 2.5" lift, but I'd expect the jeep would feel a little "darty" at highway speeds without it. You'll probably also need an alignment. Should be fine otherwise.
Awesome x2.

Looks like I know what I will be doing.

My plan is to do the BB and new Front bumper this year.

Then with Tax return I am doing 15" with 33" duratacs.

Then after my wallet and g/f get done beating me, ill be happy, for at least a little while.

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