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Old 01-19-2012, 05:04 PM   #61
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Also windshield is curved on 12's Which is a first...atleast that's what one of the guys at dealer said..haven't checked against n '11 so dunno for sure...
There is no real difference between an 11 and 12 other than the paint engine and tranny. The curved windshield , jeep grill centered on windshield and jeep climbing a mountain are all on my 11.

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Old 01-19-2012, 05:28 PM   #62
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Also windshield is curved on 12's Which is a first...atleast that's what one of the guys at dealer said..haven't checked against n '11 so dunno for sure...
The dealer doesn't know what he's talking about. Of course after my experiences at 3 different dealers I'm not surprised. As a matter of fact I filled out the electronic survey I got sent to rate my purchase experience on Monday and one of the things it asks is if you visited any other dealers and which ones. I told it the other two and then it asks why you didn't buy from them (or something like that) and I checked the box on both dealers that said the staff wasn't knowledgeable about the product. Thankfully the one I did buy from actually was quite good (and contributed a lot to me buying from them).

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Old 01-19-2012, 06:04 PM   #63
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Also windshield is curved on 12's Which is a first...atleast that's what one of the guys at dealer said..haven't checked against n '11 so dunno for sure...
Yeah, a first since 07.
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Old 01-19-2012, 06:33 PM   #64
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Stop me if I am wrong: 7 slot Jeep grill in black above the Rear View Mirror, visible from the outside, a tiny Wrangler climbing up the window on the passenger side, lower windshield, and "Since 1941" on the passenger grab handle. If you see one coming the other way on the turnpike, you won't have much luck seeing these, but in a parking lot ,,,, see if you find them.
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Old 01-19-2012, 06:39 PM   #65
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Stop me if I am wrong: 7 slot Jeep grill in black above the Rear View Mirror, visible from the outside, a tiny Wrangler climbing up the window on the passenger side, lower windshield, and "Since 1941" on the passenger grab handle. If you see one coming the other way on the turnpike, you won't have much luck seeing these, but in a parking lot ,,,, see if you find them.
That was on my 2011 too before i traded in
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Old 01-19-2012, 06:43 PM   #66
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That was on my 2011 too before i traded in
Yep, I think I read it was part of the 2011 revamp of the interior. Guess it makes sense since that black stuff is on the interior
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Old 01-26-2012, 07:01 PM   #67
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As far as things that are different on the 2012, I have a question.

My Arctic has a passenger side door lock switch that's busted and I can't find it on the parts catalogs and the dealer ordered the wrong one as well. The 2011 catalog is showing the door lock switch on the dash and my switches are on the doors. Can someone verify on a 2011 where the door lock switch is? If it is on the dash on 2011 then the 2012s are different.

Other different things, full face AC condenser to help make the AC cooler, mentioned 2 special edition models, engine and engine "stuff" including slight trans redesign (the biggest change of course), freedom top seals (up for debate), much better 5 spd automatic.

If you don't see an obvious special edition and you want to know from the rear if its a 2012 a keen eye will notice the Pentastar has a larger diameter tailpipe and it looks like it hangs down a little more (more noticeable).

Personally I feel bad for the 2011 owners. I know many say they aren't that bothered but I think it sucks big time!! The fact that they redesigned the interior and marketed heavily sucking buyers in and then ONE model year later they ditch the POS 3.8 mini-van engine for the new mill. I would be so f'ing fumed you have no idea!! I think its a horrible thing to do and I can't think of any other manufacturer that changed a model drastically and then 12 months later dropped a new engine in it. Why didn't they just wait and do it all together?????
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did the 11's have the decals on the windshield of the jeep on the hill and the grill and headlights?
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Old 01-26-2012, 08:53 PM   #70
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did the 11's have the decals on the windshield of the jeep on the hill and the grill and headlights?
Yes...covered earlier in the thread.

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