What's wrong with manual transmission? - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > JK Jeep Wrangler Forum > JK General Discussion Forum

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on WranglerForum.com
Old 05-06-2011, 08:01 PM   #1
Jeeper
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Seattle
Posts: 29
What's wrong with manual transmission?

New Jeep owner here, with a '10 4-Dr. When I was shopping, one of my requirements was a manual transmission. I've only ever owned manuals, and had no interest in an auto. Coming up to speed now on the forums, I see a lot of bad-mouthing about manuals. Was wondering what that was based on. I understand there is a basic personal preference to start, but what beyond that? More prone to failure? More difficult to manage while 'wheeling? Or ?

Thanks,
-Sky

gyroplane is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-06-2011, 08:28 PM   #2
Sea Monkey Wrangler

WF Supporting Member
 
SkyTurtle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 156
Nothing At All

I love manual transmissions. My father was a road racer and my first driving experience was on road courses. A manual tranny lets you maximize engine torque management, which is essential if driving competitively. When not, I still like a manual transmission for some road cars because, like landing an airplane, practice only makes you better.

That being said, most people find changing gears to be a chore so automatics are far more popular, especially here in the US. In fact, I have an automatic in my DD Wrangler. And I'm always a little ashamed when I'm around my manual-shifting brethren.

Shift and enjoy, my friend!

__________________
SkyTurtle
2009 Jeep Wrangler / 2007 BMW M Roadster
SkyTurtle is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-06-2011, 09:01 PM   #3
Jeeper
 
jk wrangler fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Chicago
Posts: 160
Jeep forums seem to be the only ones where I've seen a strong preference for automatics. I used to peruse through dozens of performance car forums and everyone bashed the slushbox I had. Now that I finally bought a vehicle with a purists transmission it's the other way around, I just can't win.
__________________
2010 Silver Islander 2 door hardtop 6m
jk wrangler fan is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-06-2011, 09:21 PM   #4
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 764
Talking

I find it hard to drive with a beer in one hand, a cell phone in the other, oh and the gear shift in the other. OMG I think I am out of hands. Most people have given up the gear shift. Just so much easier then shifting, especially around town. I now have went to automated manuals in all of my semi truck and they are a dream to drive. the smart car uses a automated manual also, and it is built by Mercedes. And ford now only makes auto trucks, and suvs and they are all 6 speeds, because its not profitable to build anything for such a nitch market. Oh and ford is not living on all of us poor taxpayers money like Chrysler and gm. The manual tranmission is all but dead, and good riddance!
KSCRUDE is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-06-2011, 09:28 PM   #5
MTH
Jeeper
 
MTH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 8,553
Huh? Lots of manuals on here--myself included. It's also considered the better trans for the JK from a power perspective.
__________________
Mike
2010 JKU "Mountain" Edition
TeraFlex 2.5" Coil Lift : Old Man Emu Nitrocharger Shocks : 33x12.5R15 Goodyear DuraTracs : 15x8 Black Rock 909s : Other Stuff . . .
MTH is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-06-2011, 09:43 PM   #6
Jeeper

WF Supporting Member
 
jk'n's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: First Quadrant in the Land of the Free
Posts: 4,723
When I saw this thread it peaqued my interest.

I'll start by saying that I am a standard driver, started that way, threw myself on a sword for the family and for 7 years drove and automatic...gulp...Caravan and then got back to a standard in my jeep. I love driving my jeep. I love it so much I got another one...a standard...that my son will learn to drive in. To my shock my daughter chose to drive stick...I didn't see that one coming...more power to her. So, I'm quite biased towards standard. I also try to understand market trends.

I don't know exact market figures about how many auto vs standard jeeps that are produced but I can tell you that I had difficulty finding standards to look at when shopping for a jeep in 2007 and then again in 2008 when Chrysler bought my original one back. They had to get my Rubicon from 200 miles away so that I could get it in a standard. Now, what does that say about the market? I think that generally, we standard drivers are in the minority. How did it get this way? Certainly market forces has a lot to do with it.

Once upon a time when cars were first invented, it became necessary to have more than one gear so that they could go faster (over-simplification) and the transmission was born. For a long time the market developed this box of gears into a pretty efficient method of making the car go faster and faster. At some point some really goofy person discovered that they could automatically shift through the gears and the automatic transmission was born (again over-simplification). The first automatics were not very good and they cost a lot so few people were interested in them. As with any new technology, it was refined and more and more manufactured on a large scale so that they became available to the masses at a reasonable price. Today, when the average person learning to drive looks at the alternatives to how to get a vehicle to go, they usually now start with an automatic transmission and become comfortable with it and stick with it. Even with my own son, he will start driving on an automatic until he gets the feeling of what it is to control the movement of the car and then I will introduce him to a standard...at least that is the plan...unless he trumps me and demands to learn on a standard (his jeep is a standard). I'll do whatever he wants in that realm but my point here is that by major vote of the purchasing public, automatics have become the standard in driving in the US unless I have a wrong feeling about the popularity of the automatic. My own conclusion is that the automatic is just easier to drive. Yes, there are always a few die-hards out there that will hang on to old technology but by and large the public seems to desire automatics.

Easier doesn't make an automatic better, just more desirable. There is a lot of sentiment out there that the US public has gotten lazy when it comes to driving cars in general and based on the arguments I see specifically in jeep forums, there seem to be a certain amount of bravado thrown in there when defending the use of the manual. When folks get so wound up that they use terms like girlyman or such to describe automatic drivers, it is no surprise that they will always get a real discussion going because no man wants to be a girly man just because they drive an automatic. Yes, most men are strong enough and manly enough to drive a real jeep with an original transmission but the market has really made these type of men soft. ......just saying....see what I mean? Suffice it to say that if the market trends continue we will eventually all become girlymen and girlywomen....wait a minute....aren't women already girly???? So, as I am getting myself deeper and deeper into trouble here you can see how a lot of tension in these threads can generate.

In conclusion, once you let an automatic out of the box, it is hard to put it back in. You cannot turn the years back. But GOD men lets get this market in jeeps back to where it belongs.....in the standard market.

Now, let me sit back and see where this goes!
__________________

Participate in life....Keep movin'....Go there....JK'n it.........Do it! Jeep #1: Red Rock 08 JK Rubicon 4dr, 6 sp manual, Stock Mud Tires, MyGIG Upgrade, Hard Top, after sale BestTop SunRider Soft Top, Congo Cage Rack, Mopar slush mats Jeep #2 Black 08 JK Rubicon 2dr, 6 sp manual, both tops, some chrome...uggg (my wife's jeep) Jeep #3 White 92 YJ (my son's jeep) A great quote from a good friend: "All hail click clack and master jk'n." Click and clack are my idols!
jk'n is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-06-2011, 09:51 PM   #7
Jeeper
 
im-ocd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 98
Some people use forums to complain or debate, whether it's the transmission, seat, plastic, motor, door locks or whatever...
I bought a manual shift and I like it; I also like the manual door locks, manual windows, plastic ect...
__________________
2010 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
Oil changes at 6,000 miles? No way! My goal is for the motor to last as long as possible, not the oil.
im-ocd is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-06-2011, 09:54 PM   #8
Jeeper
 
KBR97's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 5,031
You'll find that a lot of guys who are into the more hardcore offroading or rock climbing or the more "technical" offroading are using automatics. The last thing you wanna do is worry about shifting gears or pushing in a clutch when your vehicle is teeter tottering on a ledge, or you just climbed to that perfect position you've been trying so hard to get to and now your gonna lose it if you fumble around your feet on a gas pedal, brake pedal, clutch pedal.
Manuals can be fun to drive on the street, and fun for trail riding. My TJ is a manual, but If I had the chance to swap in a automatic I wouldn't hesitate at all.
KBR97 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-06-2011, 09:59 PM   #9
Jeeper

WF Supporting Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 521
Images: 2
Lol - I heard the Battle Hymn of the Republic in the background while reading jk'ns post... I've owned a number of manual trannies (rods aside), and a few autos. Everyone I have known in my 53 years who has owned a Jeep has owned it in a manual, except a girl I knew who bought an old Comanche in auto. Not a gender thing, just pointing out the exception. When I went looking for a new Jeep of my own, I walked to a dealer about a block from work who was going out of business and had 7 or 8 Sahara's on the lot - all manual - couldn't give them away. I wound up buying one for a great price (great as in about 10K off the paper price!). The dealer was glad to be rid of one. I'm not sure how well off-landers get on with an automatic, but being a bit of a purest in that regard, I remember being in a car some time back where an auto tranny locked up and we wound up walking away and having it towed. The tow truck driver actually said that it was ashame it wasn't manual, because I could have gotten the vehicle in neutral and avoided a lot of the charges (they needed a flatbed to haul it to the garage). Then again, for as much as auto trannies are "the standard" now, why do they still cost $1,500+ more than a manual? You'd think in 50 years they would have been able to produce one cheaper...
__________________
If you only have a Jeep, every problem appears as a rock. I like rocks.
trennmaschine is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-06-2011, 10:12 PM   #10
Jeeper
 
Supercop260's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Virginia
Posts: 6,062
I've got a 2010 JKU with a manual and the tow package. I got the manual because:

- I wanted it...I love manuals
- I got a better deal
- It's faster when I need it to be because I control the shift points.
- My wife doesn't know how to drive it!
Supercop260 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-06-2011, 10:17 PM   #11
Jeeper

WF Supporting Member
 
jk'n's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: First Quadrant in the Land of the Free
Posts: 4,723
Quote:
Originally Posted by KBR97 View Post
You'll find that a lot of guys who are into the more hardcore offroading or rock climbing or the more "technical" offroading are using automatics. The last thing you wanna do is worry about shifting gears or pushing in a clutch when your vehicle is teeter tottering on a ledge, or you just climbed to that perfect position you've been trying so hard to get to and now your gonna lose it if you fumble around your feet on a gas pedal, brake pedal, clutch pedal.
Manuals can be fun to drive on the street, and fun for trail riding. My TJ is a manual, but If I had the chance to swap in a automatic I wouldn't hesitate at all.
No offense to you but I always characterize statements that somehow rock crawlers prefer automatics as pure bullshit for the same reason that anybody would try to claim one type of transmission or another is better in a jeep in general. The choice of transmission is purely personal. There are certain places that one may do a better job than the other, for instance one may be more relaxing to drive, say, in city traffic. Part of the thrill of driving a jeep over rocks is exactly what you claim to be the downfall of the standard in favor of the automatic is the challenge of making the right moves in the right places so as not to tip the gosh darn thing over. You can just as easily make a mistake in an automatic in technical situations precisely because it is an automatic and not a standard because it put you over the balance point or some other bad thing happened whereas in a standard if you had just put your foot on the clutch, it would not have reached that point. Each has their pluses and minuses. For some, while rock crawling, being able to drink a coffee while doing it is more important and the choice of automatic for them is a no brainer. Whatever floats your boat but I hope a bunch of coffee drinking rock crawlers alone doesn't mean that they are just somehow preferred.
__________________

Participate in life....Keep movin'....Go there....JK'n it.........Do it! Jeep #1: Red Rock 08 JK Rubicon 4dr, 6 sp manual, Stock Mud Tires, MyGIG Upgrade, Hard Top, after sale BestTop SunRider Soft Top, Congo Cage Rack, Mopar slush mats Jeep #2 Black 08 JK Rubicon 2dr, 6 sp manual, both tops, some chrome...uggg (my wife's jeep) Jeep #3 White 92 YJ (my son's jeep) A great quote from a good friend: "All hail click clack and master jk'n." Click and clack are my idols!
jk'n is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-06-2011, 10:19 PM   #12
Jeeper
 
woodsballnc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Wilkes County, NC
Posts: 379
Quote:
Originally Posted by trennmaschine View Post
Lol - I heard the Battle Hymn of the Republic in the background while reading jk'ns post...
Thanks...now its stuck in my head... Think about it for a second. When all heck breaks loose and all these auto drivers need a fast escape and all that is there is a manual vehicle...then who will have the last laugh? Keep that in mind for a rainy day...
__________________
"Lots of times a mule will balk if he doesn't think his leader is using good judgment, but a Jeep will always try."-WWII Sgt

If you find yourself between a rock and a hard place...on second thought, with a Jeep Wrangler you wont ever have to worry about that....
woodsballnc is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-06-2011, 10:22 PM   #13
Jeeper

WF Supporting Member
 
jk'n's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: First Quadrant in the Land of the Free
Posts: 4,723
Wait a minute, was that a loaded gun you pointed at me KBR97, knowing what my response would be?? I fell for it.
__________________

Participate in life....Keep movin'....Go there....JK'n it.........Do it! Jeep #1: Red Rock 08 JK Rubicon 4dr, 6 sp manual, Stock Mud Tires, MyGIG Upgrade, Hard Top, after sale BestTop SunRider Soft Top, Congo Cage Rack, Mopar slush mats Jeep #2 Black 08 JK Rubicon 2dr, 6 sp manual, both tops, some chrome...uggg (my wife's jeep) Jeep #3 White 92 YJ (my son's jeep) A great quote from a good friend: "All hail click clack and master jk'n." Click and clack are my idols!
jk'n is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-06-2011, 10:27 PM   #14
Jeeper
 
Tuggin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: NW, PA
Posts: 82
Manual

I agree MTH...with the3.8 you will be better off with the manual.
Tom
Tuggin is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-06-2011, 10:40 PM   #15
Jeeper

WF Supporting Member
 
jk'n's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: First Quadrant in the Land of the Free
Posts: 4,723
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuggin View Post
I agree MTH...with the3.8 you will be better off with the manual.
Tom
X2 but I'm trying to be a closet standard driver in a world of auto drivers. Shhhhh....
__________________

Participate in life....Keep movin'....Go there....JK'n it.........Do it! Jeep #1: Red Rock 08 JK Rubicon 4dr, 6 sp manual, Stock Mud Tires, MyGIG Upgrade, Hard Top, after sale BestTop SunRider Soft Top, Congo Cage Rack, Mopar slush mats Jeep #2 Black 08 JK Rubicon 2dr, 6 sp manual, both tops, some chrome...uggg (my wife's jeep) Jeep #3 White 92 YJ (my son's jeep) A great quote from a good friend: "All hail click clack and master jk'n." Click and clack are my idols!
jk'n is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-06-2011, 11:02 PM   #16
Jeeper
 
nvkid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: n.nevada
Posts: 736
Before I have always had a manuel in case of a dead battery,(you could roll start it)but now as age continues to increase i like the auto.(with air ect.)
nvkid is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-06-2011, 11:23 PM   #17
Jeeper
 
KBR97's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 5,031
I'm not going by facts or anything, Im just going by my own personal experience and from what I've seen. I noticed ALOT of people with automatics when it comes to a "trail dedicated" rig, whether it be in a magazine or at the trails.
KBR97 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-06-2011, 11:43 PM   #18
Jeeper

WF Supporting Member
 
jk'n's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: First Quadrant in the Land of the Free
Posts: 4,723
Quote:
Originally Posted by KBR97 View Post
I'm not going by facts or anything, Im just going by my own personal experience and from what I've seen. I noticed ALOT of people with automatics when it comes to a "trail dedicated" rig, whether it be in a magazine or at the trails.
I hear ya. I guess maybe rock crawlers like automatics same as mall crawlers? The more technical one is about rock crawling I would think that would lead to selection of a standard. The only real big bonus I can see is the freeing up of the right hand with the automatic and a less active left leg. The pedals are not really any issue or slipping backwards since rock crawling is done in 4 low you can come off of the clutch before you come off of the brake on a standard and that jeep will move forward regardless of whether you stand on the brake or not. That can actually be an advantage in a way over an automatic in some circumstances. I've seen automatics on rock trails falling backwards coming off of the brake going to the gas. That hasn't happened to me once unless I wanted it to happen with my standard.
__________________

Participate in life....Keep movin'....Go there....JK'n it.........Do it! Jeep #1: Red Rock 08 JK Rubicon 4dr, 6 sp manual, Stock Mud Tires, MyGIG Upgrade, Hard Top, after sale BestTop SunRider Soft Top, Congo Cage Rack, Mopar slush mats Jeep #2 Black 08 JK Rubicon 2dr, 6 sp manual, both tops, some chrome...uggg (my wife's jeep) Jeep #3 White 92 YJ (my son's jeep) A great quote from a good friend: "All hail click clack and master jk'n." Click and clack are my idols!
jk'n is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-06-2011, 11:56 PM   #19
Jeeper
 
C.L.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: North NJ
Posts: 1,990
I like stick because it's becoming a theft deterrent... Today's discerning car thief sees a manual gearbox and decides "screw it, i'll jack something i can drive while texting!"
C.L. is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-06-2011, 11:57 PM   #20
Jeeper
 
Northwest4x4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 266
I hate automatics they are boring to drive and get bad gas mileage.
Northwest4x4 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-07-2011, 12:33 AM   #21
Jeeper

WF Supporting Member
 
dhamilton83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Northern Ontario
Posts: 353
Manual Trannies obviously have their advantages, but automatics have come a long way. I guess really it all comes down to what you are planning on using your jeep for. I have a 2010 Wrangler and I went with the Automatic even though I went look for a standard. I just got a better deal cause they had one with everything I wanted on the Lot. I enjoy driving it still even though I miss my standard sometimes. The only complaint I have heard numerous times about the Jeep manual is that the throws are short and that it can be taxing to drive in city and high traffic conditions...that being said most ppl don't buy a jeep for city driving or high traffic conditions and if you should find yourself in one...lock in the 4 wheel drive and crawl over the curb and off into the sunset!
dhamilton83 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-07-2011, 07:13 AM   #22
Jeeper
 
Dogzilla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Coastal NC
Posts: 929
Is there some reason that we can't all just like and enjoy what WE have, and let others like and enjoy what THEY have?? I mean, REALLY!!
Dogzilla is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-07-2011, 07:16 AM   #23
Jeeper

WF Supporting Member
 
jk'n's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: First Quadrant in the Land of the Free
Posts: 4,723
^^ Thought about this one for a little bit. The statement that you made "most ppl don't buy a jeep for city driving or high traffic conditions" I think you may want to re-visit as far as the logic goes. Granted that they may be dreaming of the mountains that they want to climb with it but I think most jeeps stay on asphalt for the far greatest percentage of their life than on jeep trails. Even on this forum a lot of people who bought an automatic usually state that they don't like all the shifting in traffic. Would that be traffic on the jeep trail?
__________________

Participate in life....Keep movin'....Go there....JK'n it.........Do it! Jeep #1: Red Rock 08 JK Rubicon 4dr, 6 sp manual, Stock Mud Tires, MyGIG Upgrade, Hard Top, after sale BestTop SunRider Soft Top, Congo Cage Rack, Mopar slush mats Jeep #2 Black 08 JK Rubicon 2dr, 6 sp manual, both tops, some chrome...uggg (my wife's jeep) Jeep #3 White 92 YJ (my son's jeep) A great quote from a good friend: "All hail click clack and master jk'n." Click and clack are my idols!
jk'n is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-07-2011, 07:21 AM   #24
Jeeper

WF Supporting Member
 
jk'n's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: First Quadrant in the Land of the Free
Posts: 4,723
Dogz, you miss the point of what a venue like this is for. A lot of people looking to buy a jeep might peruse through threads like this one to hear the arguments to and fro while they are trying to decide for themselves. That is why this is such a perpetual thread topic. And we are passionate about our choices. That is why there is so much response. It is specifically that we are so happy about our choices that we express them....or for that matter, sorry about our choices that we express them.
__________________

Participate in life....Keep movin'....Go there....JK'n it.........Do it! Jeep #1: Red Rock 08 JK Rubicon 4dr, 6 sp manual, Stock Mud Tires, MyGIG Upgrade, Hard Top, after sale BestTop SunRider Soft Top, Congo Cage Rack, Mopar slush mats Jeep #2 Black 08 JK Rubicon 2dr, 6 sp manual, both tops, some chrome...uggg (my wife's jeep) Jeep #3 White 92 YJ (my son's jeep) A great quote from a good friend: "All hail click clack and master jk'n." Click and clack are my idols!
jk'n is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-07-2011, 07:24 AM   #25
Jeeper
 
JPWheelin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Woodstock, GA
Posts: 378
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dogzilla View Post
Is there some reason that we can't all just like and enjoy what WE have, and let others like and enjoy what THEY have?? I mean, REALLY!!
Amen brother! Although, I do find myself reading through all the 5 page threads from hot topics such as this!

To the OP:
There are pros and cons to the manual vs auto just as with any other vehicle. If tyou prefer a manual tranny, then that is what I would go with. Just a couple of things to know- if you are in deep mud or water you should avoid pushing in the clutch because it will open and you will get mud/grime in the clutch and greatly shorten the life. This can be avoided by staying in 4L. You can crawl at a very slow speed without pushing in the clutch, and if you stall you can start the engine without the cluth (in 4L).

One other thing worth mentioning is there have been many cases of Jumping out of Gear (JOG) issues in the JK. I haven't had any issues (had mine since Feb). I wouldn't necessarily let that stop by but it is worth mentioning.
JPWheelin is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-07-2011, 07:29 AM   #26
Jeeper

WF Supporting Member
 
jk'n's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: First Quadrant in the Land of the Free
Posts: 4,723
AMEN---AMEN!

For some of us, it is just fun.
__________________

Participate in life....Keep movin'....Go there....JK'n it.........Do it! Jeep #1: Red Rock 08 JK Rubicon 4dr, 6 sp manual, Stock Mud Tires, MyGIG Upgrade, Hard Top, after sale BestTop SunRider Soft Top, Congo Cage Rack, Mopar slush mats Jeep #2 Black 08 JK Rubicon 2dr, 6 sp manual, both tops, some chrome...uggg (my wife's jeep) Jeep #3 White 92 YJ (my son's jeep) A great quote from a good friend: "All hail click clack and master jk'n." Click and clack are my idols!
jk'n is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-07-2011, 07:40 AM   #27
Jeeper
 
Dogzilla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Coastal NC
Posts: 929
LOL....I didn't miss it at all. There's nothing wrong with ranting about how good YOUR setup is.......It's the ranting about how bad the other guy's setup is.

Personally, I like a bit of trolling, too.....but it doesn't have to get so nasty.
Dogzilla is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-07-2011, 07:47 AM   #28
Trail Mom

WF Supporting Member
 
Kate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Scotts Hill, TN
Posts: 2,864
I drove a stick most of my life.
Taught my daughters to drive in a stick, they both still prefer it.

Always loved a stick but when I bought the Jeep weighed several different things and decided on the auto. On the street sometimes I still wish I had a stick but on the trail I wouldn't trade my auto for all the clutches in the world. I made the right decision and am very happy with it.
__________________
06 Rubi with some sort of double ended, chrome knobbed, cross threaded, infinitely adjustable, frequently breakable, worn out flammywhammers zip tied onto it.
It used to be a jeep thing... til that sh!t broke!
Kate is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-07-2011, 07:48 AM   #29
Jeeper
 
ZOMB1E's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Central Wisconsin
Posts: 483
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dogzilla
LOL....I didn't miss it at all. There's nothing wrong with ranting about how good YOUR setup is.......It's the ranting about how bad the other guy's setup is.

Personally, I like a bit of trolling, too.....but it doesn't have to get so nasty.
Stop being such a girlie man! jk
__________________

ZOMB1E is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-07-2011, 07:53 AM   #30
Jeeper
 
Dogzilla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Coastal NC
Posts: 929
Angry Grrrrr

Don't make me hit you with my purse!

Dogzilla is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Jeep Wrangler Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Converting auto transmission to manual Mdistef650 YJ Tech Forum 5 01-06-2011 10:13 AM
Manual transmission heats up wont go in gear? jasonwrangler TJ Tech Forum 1 11-11-2010 04:49 PM
Suggestions for Manual Transmission Lube? hermesgrafix YJ Tech Forum 1 08-22-2010 10:08 PM
trouble disconnecting shifters from manual transmission lmorris249 YJ General Discussion Forum 0 03-16-2010 01:41 PM
Manual Transmission Fluid... naviathan YJ General Discussion Forum 3 10-27-2005 04:26 PM



» Network Links
»Jeep Parts
» Featured Product

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:00 PM.



Jeep®, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to Chrysler Motors LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with the Chrysler Motors LLC