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Old 11-03-2013, 09:54 AM   #1
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wheel spacers safe?

Ok, I bought some Spidertrax 1.5" wheel spacers for my JKU. Gonna put em on today, but before I go through the hassle, are these things safe? Are they going to bust and my wheel fly off?

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Old 11-03-2013, 10:02 AM   #2
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Install them correctly you should not have a problem. Torgue and use recommended loctite and re torgue per spec. I've been running mine for several thousand miles no problem. Same as yours, but I bought them used.

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Old 11-03-2013, 10:08 AM   #3
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They are safe. Make sure you follow the instructions and remove the pieces holding the disc on so the spacers sit flat. Then make sure you use Loctite and properly torque them. If you don't have a torque wrench that reads that high go to Harbor Freight. They have them at a very good price.

You should then recheck the torque after 100 miles.
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They are safe if you use them properly and retorque every 3-5k miles.

Problem is, they are illegal In many states. If your spacers cause an accident in these states you're insurance will probably drop you the first chance they get as you would be high risk for knowingly breaking the law. Check your state laws and act accordingly
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Old 11-03-2013, 10:11 AM   #5
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They are safe. Make sure you follow the instructions and remove the pieces holding the disc on so the spacers sit flat. Then make sure you use Loctite and properly torque them. If you don't have a torque wrench that reads that high go to Harbor Freight. They have them at a very good price.

You should then recheck the torque after 100 miles.
X2! With cupin you can get a 1/2" torgue wrench for less than $10.00 Have used mine several times better tool than I thought it would be. Great write up on Project-JK for wheel spacers. Will provide all torgue specs for you as well.
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Old 11-03-2013, 11:10 AM   #6
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Ok, I bought some Spidertrax 1.5" wheel spacers for my JKU. Gonna put em on today, but before I go through the hassle, are these things safe? Are they going to bust and my wheel fly off?
Not if installed properly and maintained. Put mine on 11000 miles ago, have not even checked after 500 miles
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Old 11-03-2013, 11:18 AM   #7
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Mine have been installed for 4500 miles now, five 3.0 or higher rated off-roading excursions and a trip to the dealer for oil change with tire rotation! No issues to report other than they ROCK! No questions from the dealer either!
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Old 11-03-2013, 10:30 PM   #8
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I ran them for over 30,000 miles on my 2005 TJ with no problems. Follow instructions and you will be fine. Torque both the spacers and the wheels. Use loctite on the spacers and remove the disc retainers.
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Old 11-03-2013, 10:49 PM   #9
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Seemed to me that there is no reason to remove the rotor retainer, it is smaller in diameter than the corresponding recess in the spidertrax no?
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Seemed to me that there is no reason to remove the rotor retainer, it is smaller in diameter than the corresponding recess in the spidertrax no?
What recess are you referring to? Its been a couple weeks since I held mine in my hand, but I don't recall there being a recess on the back where the factory bolts go through..?

I think the retaining clips need to be removed so the spacer can sit flat against the rotor, and the clips would prevent this.
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What recess are you referring to? Its been a couple weeks since I held mine in my hand, but I don't recall there being a recess on the back where the factory bolts go through..?

I think the retaining clips need to be removed so the spacer can sit flat against the rotor, and the clips would prevent this.
Mine were machined where the stud goes through to accommodate the retainers. I did some googling and some other folks had the same experience.
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I just put a set on a couple weeks ago and Spidertrax definitely need the retaining clips removed and they specify that in their instructions.
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I just put a set on a couple weeks ago and Spidertrax definitely need the retaining clips removed and they specify that in their instructions.

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Can someone post a pic of the back of the spidertrax? I don't recall seeing the machined area mentioned above.. Maybe they revised the design...? Either way, the instructions on the set I had installed said to remove the retaining clip so we did..
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Old 11-04-2013, 07:28 AM   #14
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Be sure to remove the clips, they do nothing anyways, they are there to hold the rotors on while it's on the assembly line before the wheels go on.
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Old 11-04-2013, 07:53 AM   #15
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x10...remove the clips. It takes like 5 min
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The rugged ridge ones do not require you to remove the clips. They are recessed to accommodate.
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Old 11-04-2013, 10:41 AM   #17
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My spacers had the recesses but I removed the rotor retaining clips just to be sure. They are easy to remove.
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I am pretty sure mine are ok, I made really, really sure that they are flush.

That said, if you don't see me post for a month or so, I was probably wrong ...
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Be sure to remove the clips, they do nothing anyways, they are there to hold the rotors on while it's on the assembly line before the wheels go on.
This is the reason for the clips. They only serve a purpose at the factory for the assembly to go quicker. There is no problem taking them off since they serve no other purpose.
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I've had em on, spidertrax, for about 8 months I guess. Checked me about every 2 months and they have been fine. Only every found 2 bolts sliiiightly loose, but nothing major. Keep em torqued down to 85lbs.
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Old 11-04-2013, 11:09 AM   #21
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Has anyone heard of actual issues with hubcentric spacers when they were installed correctly? I haven't... Had them on for a couple of weeks now. I do look in the wheel holes to make sure they are still flush every now and again... Originally checked them after 80 miles and nothing was loose. People say they aren't good as they put higher leveraged torque on the hub but I don't buy it... No more than wheels with different backspacing. I'm not too worried. I'll get back to you after a couple of years though... Or when they fail... Whichever comes first! ;-)
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Old 11-04-2013, 11:39 AM   #22
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No issues with my spacers.

Another piece of advice not yet mentioned - wire brush & brake clean.

Even new vehicles can have rust / corrosion. clean the mating surfaces on both the spacer & vehicle with both a wire brush & brake cleaner before installing them. Locktite is your friend here.
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I make a point of not using spacers unless no other options exist. This was an issue when I was building my FJ40....thinking that I could save some money, I researched the subject quite extensively.

These are the basic rules...

1. Use machined ones, not cast ones. Cast aluminum is terrible for anything as important as a wheel spacer. It tends to crack, because of the way the metal grains align when the piece cools. Machined aluminum doesn't have that problem, but it costs more. In this case, totally worth it.

2. You need to check and retorque the bolts and lugs regularly, and inspect the spacers while you're at it.

If you can follow the rules....you should be fine.

Being generally uninterested in pulling 100 pound wheels off of the FJ regularly....I sucked it up and bought the wheels that were meant to be on the rig.

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I used Spidetrax for over 50,000 miles on my '09 with 35" and 37" tires with out problems. I just re-torqued them at every tire rotation. They got a fair amount of abuse on desert trails 2-3x a month including washboards at 20-30 MPH. They are aluminum and fatigue is the main failure mode but they was zero damage visually detectable.

I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has experienced problems with the Spidertrax spacers.
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I've had em on, spidertrax, for about 8 months I guess. Checked me about every 2 months and they have been fine. Only every found 2 bolts sliiiightly loose, but nothing major. Keep em torqued down to 85lbs.
You sure on 85 lbs? I feel like my TJ required 125.
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If I remember correctly from the spidertrax instructions it was 80-90lbs and it said in bolt "do not use an impact".
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You sure on 85 lbs? I feel like my TJ required 125.
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If I remember correctly from the spidertrax instructions it was 80-90lbs and it said in bolt "do not use an impact".
yes this is correct. Then to check to make sure they have not come loose set the torq wrench to 80 ft/lbs. I would be careful about over torqueing as more is not always better.
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Just checked the install instructions from spidertrax and they say 80-110.
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Just checked the install instructions from spidertrax and they say 80-110.
Weird. My instructions said 85. And strange that they'd give you a range for a torque spec!!!

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