I would think by fall 2011, or sooner. The new pentastar seems to be a turd right out of the chute. No pun intended. Ok 3.5 litter, ford ecoboost, also 3.5 litters. Pentajunk 280 to maybe 290 HP. I think about 275 FPT, or there a bouts. ford ecoboost 365 HP, 420 Lb.-ft of torque and a whooping 22 mph in a full-size ford f 150. The Chrysler engineers must be getting drunk everyday on the job, just like all of the union paid factory workers!!! Oh and on my dime. Hope they drink good wiskey and beer, like bud lite and crown royal!