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Old 03-13-2014, 04:14 PM   #1
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Which 2014 Wrangler is best value?

Given the various models of Wrangler's now, which edition in your opinion is the best value for the money spent and why? Many have different needs Sport - Rubicon but where is the money best spent?

Would you get a fully loaded Rubicon or a Sport with after market parts. Maybe find the middle ground in the Sahara or Willy Wheeler!

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Depends on usage. Mine is for soft sand mostly, so sport is the best for me.

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First you need to ask yourself what you really want from a new Jeep. Then you can adjust your purchase around that or let us know and maybe we can direct you a little better.
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Usage definitely plays a role, as does desired equipment. I wanted heated seats, nav, auto temp, and auto headlights when I ordered mine. That combination meant I had to go Sahara or Rubicon. Since this is a mall crawl/fire road vehicle, I couldn't justify the added 3k to a Rubi for equipment I won't use. When I wheeled more with my old LJ I got a Rubi because I needed and used the lockers and 4:1 t-case.
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Mine's my DD so I went sport and I am modding for fun and looks mostly. I offroad at the deer lease, but nothing big.
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Willys offers most bang for buck, options wise.
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I bought a new Rubi X fully loaded thinking it would have better resale value and it looks cool, it will never go off road and will have very low mileage when I get bored with it.
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As far as I've seen the Rubi is a waste. Unless you're taking it from the dealer lot to the rocky mountains the sport will get you anywhere you wanna go
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I also bought a Rubi X because it had everything I wanted. If I was more handy with a wrench and had chunks of disposable income on a regular basis I would have bought a Sport and built it. But, to pay someone to do mode like lockers, gears, bumpers, etc. it made more sense for me to get something that it already.
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Your asking, which is the best bang for you buck, which will change drastically per your logistical location.

Let's take two examples:

You live in Chicago, and primarily use it for a DD, because there is not a lot of other options for it's usage.
Then I would say the JKU, either the Sport, or the Sahara 4 door would probably be the biggest in demand, and offer you the best resale.

You live in Phoenix, still DD, but there are mountains and woods all over the state to explore.
Then I would say the JKR, or the JKRU would probably be the highest in demand, and offer you the best resale.

So it really depends on your location, and the usage options..........
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It all depends on how you will use the vehicle.

Best "pure" value in terms of strictly dollars to features? I'd say a base Sport, a Willys, and a Rubi.

But those vehicles may not suit your particular wants or how you plan on using the Jeep.....so a good "value" may not be a good "buy".

Example:
A base Sport is useless if you want power windows, door locks, etc...
A Willys is pretty useless if you want a painted top, and something other than black, cloth interior.
Or the expense of a Rubi isn't a great buy if you know you will pretty much be on pavement with a few dirt trails and fire roads thrown in.

From a price versus featurs stand point, my Sahara is a bad buy compared to a equally equipped Rubicon, but for how I will use the vehicle, spending another $2400 on a Rubicon would have made no sense for me, even knowing that front and rear lockers, ediscos, a D44 up front, and a 4:1 transfer case all covered under warranty would be a good deal.

How do you plan on using the vehicle?
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Your asking, which is the best bang for you buck, which will change drastically per your logistical location.

Let's take two examples:

You live in Chicago, and primarily use it for a DD, because there is not a lot of other options for it's usage.
Then I would say the JKU, either the Sport, or the Sahara 4 door would probably be the biggest in demand, and offer you the best resale.

You live in Phoenix, still DD, but there are mountains and woods all over the state to explore.
Then I would say the JKR, or the JKRU would probably be the highest in demand, and offer you the best resale.

So it really depends on your location, and the usage options..........
Yup....
I live in the burbs of Chicago. I have a 4 door Sahara. There a zillions of 4 door Sports and Sahara's where I live....but not many Rubi's. Why? Because the only thing around here is: the city, the burbs, and flat, private farmland.

If I lived right outside of Moab...it would be a different story.
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The reason I picked the Willys, is because it gives a lower price on some decent options, that when added to a Sport, will be more expensive. For an MSRP of just under $28000. You get lots of goodies.
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Yup....
I live in the burbs of Chicago. I have a 4 door Sahara. There a zillions of 4 door Sports and Sahara's where I live....but not many Rubi's. Why? Because the only thing around here is: the city, the burbs, and flat, private farmland.

If I lived right outside of Moab...it would be a different story.
Yep, I do understand.
I have lived and wheeled all over Arizona for 40 years, but originated on a Farm in North West Indiana!

You mentioned Brook-field Zoo in one of your Posts, well I have been there many times, when I was a young one, but that has been a long time ago.........
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Hey I live in the far west burbs in a far off land called Woodstock. Yep the place where Grounhog Day was filmed.
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I bought (2) 2012's basic no optioned vehicles and got 100% of my buy price back on trade-ins for 2014's. Highly optioned vehicles will cost you more at trade-in time.
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It is a matter of personal opinion my wife would say the Polar...but she doesn't off road...rarely removes the top...likes the butt warmers and the nav and the connectivity stereo and 4dr HT.....and doesn't need/ want/ or know how to use lockers or discos...could had a Rubi for what a Polar costs but she wanted a BLUE JEEP with a HT...now she loves it!!!
Bottom line it is gonna depend on what you plan to do with your ride....Good Luck!!!
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As far as I've seen the Rubi is a waste. Unless you're taking it from the dealer lot to the rocky mountains the sport will get you anywhere you wanna go
I think about 90% of people would totally disagree with you on that very bold statement.

There are tons of people on here who purchased Sports and regretted it a year later and traded it in on a Rubicon. I have yet to meet a single person or see anywhere on here a person who bought a Rubicon, regretted it and purchased a Sport instead.

All that being said, to the OP - it's totally what YOU believe to be the best. I went with the Willys after deciding I just wasn't going to get enough use out of a Rubicon for my needs. I'm not going to be rock crawling every weekend, but the Willys gave me some nice Rubicon options right off the bat.

Good luck on whatever you decide on, and let us know!
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I've had almost a dozen proper 4x4s in 20 years of driving as a 3rd gen AZ native. Frankly, for any terrain where the Rubi lockers are needed, I'm in the realm of expensive body damage amd a Rubi is too expensive to thrash. A skilled operator with open diffs can oftentimes match a novice driver with lockers. I did Poison Spideresa in Moab with a 4-cylinder TJ on 31s. That's a LV5-6 trail. The brochures say 33s and a locker but tradecraft can make up for a lot. My only locked vehicles were a 1975 F100 Ranger and 1979 Bronco... rigs that I wasn't afraid to scratch.

The sport on 32" tires will take me anywhere I'm willing to drive a vehicle I'm making payments on, and I approach 20 mpgs.

I paid $25K OTD for a new Jeep with a tinted hard top. For me it was the best value. In 10 years, when it's got a few scratches, then I'll throw in some cheap lockrights and mount some 33"s.

On the days I want to traverse truly nasty terrain, then the palomino or the YZ450F gets out to play.
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Welcome to the forum. If you're new to Jeeping this may be a little off the deep end, but here goes...

The problem with the Rubicon is that the two main upgrades over a regular model Jeep, really aren't that great. By that I mean the axles and the transfer case. The front Dana 44 axle uses the same axle tubes and c-knuckles as the Dana 30, and they can be bent without too much difficulty. My best friend has bent the front axle tube on one of his Rubicons, so I've seen it personally. The ball joints in the axle are crap as well. The 4:1 transfer case is geared too low for all but crawling, if you get the auto transmission. For regular 4- wheeling, like on dirt roads, or in sand dunes, the 4:1 transfer case is more of a disadvantage than it is an advantage.

The Rubicon can save you some money though, depending on what you want in the end. If you want a Jeep for moderate 4-wheeling the Rubicon is great. Add front axle sleeves or gussets, and you're good to go. If you want a Jeep for more serious 4-wheeling, where you replace most of the drivetrain with upgraded parts, you can save money by going with a Sport, and not paying the initial premium for the Rubicon.
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As far as I've seen the Rubi is a waste. Unless you're taking it from the dealer lot to the rocky mountains the sport will get you anywhere you wanna go
Sport wouldn't have gotten me out of the muddy ditch on the side of the dirt road where I was spinning both right tires in 4Hi....

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You buy a Rubicon for the same reason you buy a Corvette, you may not need its capabilities, but it is sure nice to have them when/if you do
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Sport wouldn't have gotten me out of the muddy ditch on the side of the dirt road where I was spinning both right tires in 4Hi....

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I used a Sport to drag out a Rubicon once. Have photos and video...

Situational awareness and experience for the win. ;-)
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Sport wouldn't have gotten me out of the muddy ditch on the side of the dirt road where I was spinning both right tires in 4Hi....

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The locker only really helps when one wheel is off the ground. I assume a sport with open differentials could of got right out with ESP and a little parking break.
When I'm in 4hi on the street, I let my ESP and Trac-Lok do its thing, but offroad I've found in 4hi I can pull my parking brake up 2-3 clicks and the ESP basically performs like a rear locker. Sure I've been in a few situations that didn't work, but based on my experience driving offroad...a locker wouldn't have helped me either.
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I think about 90% of people would totally disagree with you on that very bold statement.

There are tons of people on here who purchased Sports and regretted it a year later and traded it in on a Rubicon. I have yet to meet a single person or see anywhere on here a person who bought a Rubicon, regretted it and purchased a Sport instead.

All that being said, to the OP - it's totally what YOU believe to be the best. I went with the Willys after deciding I just wasn't going to get enough use out of a Rubicon for my needs. I'm not going to be rock crawling every weekend, but the Willys gave me some nice Rubicon options right off the bat.

Good luck on whatever you decide on, and let us know!
I'd put it like this.
A good chunk of people on this forum would disagree with his statement....but this forum tends to have more off-roaders than out in the "real world".

There have only been a few people on this forum who have admitted that they had a Rubi....didn't use the features, and ended up going to a Sport. It happens, it is just rare to see here.

But I think his statement is actually accurate. Rubicons are a small percentage of Wrangler sales because the reality is that most JK owners (outside of enthusiest forums) really don't need the features.
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The locker only really helps when one wheel is off the ground.
not true at all. It helps anytime 1 wheel has less traction
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The is my first Wrangler and my first reply to this site, so I my opinion is what it is. I bought a Sport S Unlimited. It has the convenience the electric windows and locks, blue tooth, and the nicer wheels. To go to the next level would have cost me several thousand more. I use mine primary as a daily driver and occasionally off road and pulled behind my motorhome.
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not true at all. It helps anytime 1 wheel has less traction
I meant unless one wheel was off the ground ESP/Parking break could of pulled you right out most of the time.
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sometimes. But I have broken way more axles going that route than with true lockers. And you still do not get the same traction as if you have a true locker

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