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Old 09-12-2011, 01:55 AM   #1
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•••Which Brand of Tires [Toyo, Cooper, BFG, Hankook]

Started buying stuff for my JKU Rubicon before it gets here and next in line are tires.

After much reading I chose these 4 models:
1. Toyo Open Country
2. Cooper STT
3. Hankook Dynapro MT
4. BFG KM/KM2

Need a long lasting tire that does not vibrate much on the street.
My JKUR will be a daily driver with the occasional trails, mud & some rocks.
Nothing extreme for now.

Would like your input plus Pro's & Con's

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my reply probably won't be very helpful, but, i have hankook Dynapros on my jku sahara. all i have to compare them too is the tires that were on there; nexen roadian.

yes, they do make some noise but nothing crazy. i actually kind of like the 'hum'. they ride good even at 70MPH on the interstate. i also like having tires that are not on every other jeep. IE: BFG, MT, - (haha) plus they just look cool.

off-road. again, not much help here as i have nothing to compare them too, but i can say that i went out to an event labor day weekend and i didn't have any issues. even made it up a rather long, red-clay/muddy climb with them. took three tries, (mostly because it was my first time off-roading)... BUT not many made it up their first try either. it was very slick and steep with some tree roots thrown in to make it interesting.

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Personal experience, we had the toyo open countrys on our brush truck at the fd, granted they were the heavy high ply, high load rating tires, truck is an 04 duramax regular cab/bed, weighs 8500, but they howled like a wolf and lasted 2 years/ 10k miles, we all loved the tires, and they pulled dam good in the mud, but our supplier said he couldn't get em anymore so now we have the km2 on it
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Old 09-12-2011, 09:26 AM   #4
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Hankook Dynapro MT RT03-LT295/75x16-not for stock wheels !

good mileage/traction plus/ "D" rating/off-road great/airdown-good sidewall/ snow however deep you wanna go-





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Hankook Dynapro MT RT03-LT295/75x16-not for stock wheels !

good mileage/traction plus/ "D" rating/off-road great/airdown-good sidewall/ snow however deep you wanna go-





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why do yours look cooler than mine?
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Old 09-12-2011, 09:38 AM   #6
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The wheels my man, the wheels !!


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why do yours look cooler than mine?
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The wheels my man, the wheels !!




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they are rather spiffy. what are they?
i got the MB wheels because i wanted to go from the 18" stock wheel to a 16 PLUS get new tires. it was a economical choice. but i do like the simple look of them too.
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They're ProComp Extreme Alloy series 8089-


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they are rather spiffy. what are they?
i got the MB wheels because i wanted to go from the 18" stock wheel to a 16 PLUS get new tires. it was a economical choice. but i do like the simple look of them too.
16x8"-4.5" BS-sold by 4wheelparts.com

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I'm a big fan of the Cooper STT but for the criteria that you listed I'd suggest you look at the Nitto Trail Grappler and Wrangler MTR/kevlar too. They're both more street-ish than the other tires you listed (even though they look mud-oriented).
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I second the Goodyear Wrangler MT/R/Kevlar and also Firestone Destination MT. Both have good grip, on and off road.
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Jimbox, I really like your Jeep. Good taste, and practical mods. Very cool my brother.
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Be sure to check out Interco tires. They make a nice narrow Super Swamper, and they have other more road friendly versions as well.
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I second the Goodyear Wrangler MT/R/Kevlar and also Firestone Destination MT. Both have good grip, on and off road.
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I'm a big fan of the Cooper STT but for the criteria that you listed I'd suggest you look at the Nitto Trail Grappler and Wrangler MTR/kevlar too. They're both more street-ish than the other tires you listed (even though they look mud-oriented).
Hi Bill
I was under the impression that the Nitto's where the noisiest of them all because of the tire look.

Mmm... I'm more confused now...

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Oooops, I missed "Trail Grappler"....

Do they last long?
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Is it me or the Trail Grapplers looks really close to the Hankook?
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Is it me or the Trail Grapplers looks really close to the Hankook?
Similar but with siping; that helps in rain/snow.
The ratings on them have been great. I only have one close friend that uses them but he loves them. He's got 35s on a JKUR.
They're quiet on the road, good on rocks, reasonable in mud. Projected lifespan is supposed to be good too.



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MTRs are awesome but out of the 3 you listed i would pick the Cooper STT.
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After looking closer it seems that the
Hankook and Nitto's look very alike and the Toyo's and Cooper's too

So my tire list grew:

1. Nitto Trail Grappler
2. Cooper STT
3. Toyo Open Country
4. Hankook Dynapro MT
5. BFG KM/KM2
6. Good Year Wrangler MT/R/Kevlar


So now I'm more confused than before with so many great options

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Not to add to your list, but I love my Kumho Road Venture KL71s. They are about the same loudness on road as the stock BFGs that came with my Rubicon. They are awesome in the mud and snow and they are generally less expensive than the others.


Of the ones that are on your list, I'd pick the Good Year Kevlars, if I had the funds to do so. 2nd choice would be the BFG KM2s
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Just read a few reviews and views on the Toyo's and Nitto's

The main differences I could find out:

1. Seems that the Toyo's is rated for more weight than the Nitto's
[Toyo about 4,000lbs and Nitto's 3,195lbs]
Is it safe to say that the higher the weight rate the better for a 2012 JKU Rubicon?
Also, not sure what the M&S rate is on the Toyo's

2. Read the Toyo's have more radial pull than the Nitto's
Toyo to the right [can be fixed with the steering stabilizer]
Nitto to the left [can't be fixed with a stabilizer
[Still not sure if this information is correct or not]

3. The Toyo's weight more than the Nitto's


This is what I could find on these 2 tires... what you think?

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I've had the nitto trail grapplers and they are seriously heavy tire. Something to consider because weight is a factor for most. They did well in the mud and pretty much anything else I wanted to do with them but they hurt MPG and get and go something fierce.
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I have kumhos and I think there awesome.... Iv never run a different tire so I wouldn't know anything else though
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My sister has the Toyo's (2nd set) and i have the Coopers. Toyo's were gone at 24,000 and I'm not even close to the wear bars at 22,000. They both clean well in mud, but the Toyo's just don't seem to hold up with alot of daily driving. That's my 2 cents. Good luck
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My sister has the Toyo's (2nd set) and i have the Coopers. Toyo's were gone at 24,000 and I'm not even close to the wear bars at 22,000. They both clean well in mud, but the Toyo's just don't seem to hold up with alot of daily driving. That's my 2 cents. Good luck
Hi Islander

this is the type of info I need, thanks a lot

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I'm a big fan of the Cooper STT but for the criteria that you listed I'd suggest you look at the Nitto Trail Grappler and Wrangler MTR/kevlar too. They're both more street-ish than the other tires you listed (even though they look mud-oriented).
Hi Bill

For some reason i didn't read this one.
I have to make a decision soon

I will go with either Nitto's, Cooper's or Good Year's
I like what i read about the Nitto's though...

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Hi

Could you guys let me know the best place to buy 5 of these tires?
I'm also looking to get 5 XD wheels.

What you guys recommend?
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Try Treadepot.com and use that price at your local Discout Tire or other local shop of choice.

For DD duties, the best tire I've used has been the MTR/kevlar. It was very very street-worthy, never slid or hydroplaned, and loved rocks. The only thing it didn't like was sticky clay-based mud.

The Cooper STTs were almost as good on the street but much better in mud; that's important in Georgia.

I've had other ATs and don't like them at all offroad. And some MTs onroad are a puzzle.

If you go on ExPo and find CJLewis, that's his Jeep in my photos; he's liking the Trail Grapplers.
The poster who said they were heavy, are you sure you're talking about the Trail Grapplers and not Mud Grapplers? The TGs aren't bad compared to heavyweights like Toyo or Swampers.
BTW, I'd never run anything from Interco on a DD. They make a few really good offroad tires but their AT designs are useless ---- the Trxxus gets flat spots and is impossible to balance, the M16 is a GI Joe movie reject, and the Thornbird is for mallcrawlers.
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Hi

Could you guys let me know the best place to buy 5 of these tires?
I'm also looking to get 5 XD wheels.

What you guys recommend?
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