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Old 07-16-2013, 01:09 PM   #31
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All great suggestions/comments. I'm actually heading out tomorrow to hit Glacier and Yellowstone. First real stop is Teddy Roosevelt NP in Western N. Dakota.

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When in Moab, be sure to go to Deadhorse state park. It's like being in the Grand Canyon. Not sure where access points are but there's several dirt roads that run along the Colorado river that you can see from Dead horse point.
As u come into Moab there's a large RV and tent campground that has a lot of amenities. We always stay at the Arches Inn right down from the campground.
Best time that we have found for Yellowstone is the end of May. The place is practically deserted. It's still cold at night, but days have cool pleasant temps and lodging and campgrounds are easy to book. We quit going in the summer all together. If you hike, bear activity is lower in the in the spring and the animals are all at the lower elevations feeding, due to the higher areas still have snow. So you'll see tons more buffalo, elk, deer.

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Ya no spare for the trailer. I just finished it but need a few things for completing it...like a spare. Lol
It's a bit costly but if you match the tires on the trailer with the tires on the Jeep then you can share a spare between them.
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Old 07-17-2013, 02:08 PM   #34
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It's a bit costly but if you match the tires on the trailer with the tires on the Jeep then you can share a spare between them.
Ya that was my initial plan but you're correct, it's not cheap or simple. New hubs, spacers, fenders and a SOA swap. 2 new Pintlers and duratracs make the cost as much as the trailer and the work to date. Hence, why for the time being I'm sticking with stock M101 wheels and looking for a spare.
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Don't know much about em, but maybe you can buy 2 cheap beadlock wheels, that way you can just have a spare tire (no wheel) for the trailer and can easily change it out on the trail.
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Old 07-17-2013, 02:30 PM   #36
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Moab is hot now 95-105 during the day and lucky to get down to 70 by morning.
Monsoon season has started so there could be afternoon wind and thunderstorms daily. Not great if you are in a tent
Some trails and washes are impassable if wet, no joke.
Let me know when you are going to be in Moab as I do a lot of mountain biking and hiking and know some great trails and would be happy to show you some as time permits

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Moab is hot now 95-105 during the day and lucky to get down to 70 by morning.
Monsoon season has started so there could be afternoon wind and thunderstorms daily. Not great if you are in a tent
Some trails and washes are impassable if wet, no joke.
Let me know when you are going to be in Moab as I do a lot of mountain biking and hiking and know some great trails and would be happy to show you some as time permits

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Hey that would be great man. As of right now it's looking like around the 9th. It will depend on how many stops I decide on along the way.

There have been lots of great ideas offered and I'm still working on an itinerary....which is difficult as I'm in Waterton camping for 2 weeks with poor wifi and 3G service.
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To give you some idea about mountain biking in Moab look at this

Utah Mountain Bike Trail Index Page

and click on Moab

There are a great variety of trails and more being built all of the time.
I can suggest some nice intermediate trails, but would suggest you stay away from some with exposure to severe drop offs

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Hey that would be great man. As of right now it's looking like around the 9th. It will depend on how many stops I decide on along the way.

There have been lots of great ideas offered and I'm still working on an itinerary....which is difficult as I'm in Waterton camping for 2 weeks with poor wifi and 3G service.
Waterton canada? 3 hikers got struck by lightening in Glacier today.
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I just got back from Moab.

A skilled hand can do #5 Rated trails on 31" tires (I needed to air down). Camping is good In Canyonlands National Park. I also like Camping in Goblin Valley, a few hours West of Moab, enroute to Zion National Park

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Waterton canada? 3 hikers got struck by lightening in Glacier today.
Ya, the Canadian side of Glacier. There was a storm watch here today but it turned out to be quite a minor storm, the clouds to the south were definitely darker. That's awful about the hikers
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Or hit the Island visitor center, pay $30 for a backcountry permit, pick a site along the White Rim and knock out some great views, 4x4 roads and camping all in one shot.
You should know though - you can't camp just anywhere along the White Rim. There are, I believe, five designated campgrounds and you'll need an assigned spot in one of those if you're driving the White Rim. Probably not very difficult to get one if it's really hot.
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:52 AM   #43
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Great info everyone!! We're getting a VMI off-road trailer built and plan to be hitting these areas, and many others, over the coming years. We were just talking about how much fun it's going to be to visit Yellowstone.

I especially appreciate the info on areas where you can/can't camp.
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You should know though - you can't camp just anywhere along the White Rim. There are, I believe, five designated campgrounds and you'll need an assigned spot in one of those if you're driving the White Rim. Probably not very difficult to get one if it's really hot.
I know at the end of June getting camping spots was a non issue.
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That's why I mentioned camping along the White Rim. This time of year, you can pretty much pick your spot. Spring and fall requires you to book months in advance. Last year we showed up and had our pick in July. We got picked White Crack, which is their most popular and sought after sight. It was open for all of July and Aug. LOL!

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