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Old 06-21-2013, 03:19 PM   #1
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Who's ditched their rear mounted spare tire?

MY heavy 305/70/16 Duratrac has started to make the rear tailgate door start to clunk at the hinge over bumps. I don't want to dip into my regearing stash to buy a $800-$1000 rear bumper with a tire carrier.
I'm thinking of ditching my spare tire and replacing the mount with a Poison Spyder tramp stamp. I have an onboard compressor. I was thinking of carrying a plug kit.
And maybe throw the spare inside on wheeling outings.
I really don't see much need to carry one around town with a M/T or and aggressive and thick tread like my Duratracs.
Any opinions or recomendations??

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Old 06-21-2013, 03:34 PM   #2
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I have Duratracs and don't run a spare and never plan to. I enjoy better visibility and actually like the look more. I have the spare, it's just in the basement!

I bought a tramp stamp and sold it right away. I did not like the look in person. Looked very cheap to me.

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Old 06-21-2013, 04:03 PM   #3
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Unless you have an automatic locker like a Detroit, why not just keep the old spare on there for emergencys? It will b no different than having a space saver spare for short trips.
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Old 06-21-2013, 04:46 PM   #4
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For around town where service can reach you if needed I can see. For out in the boonies, 2 out of 2 flats were long slices from sharp rocks on forest roads, could not plug them (I tried though). I never go without when out in the boonies. Town is different.
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Old 06-21-2013, 05:08 PM   #5
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Why a rear bumper

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MY heavy 305/70/16 Duratrac has started to make the rear tailgate door start to clunk at the hinge over bumps. I don't want to dip into my regearing stash to buy a $800-$1000 rear bumper with a tire carrier.
I'm thinking of ditching my spare tire and replacing the mount with a Poison Spyder tramp stamp. I have an onboard compressor. I was thinking of carrying a plug kit.
And maybe throw the spare inside on wheeling outings.
I really don't see much need to carry one around town with a M/T or and aggressive and thick tread like my Duratracs.
Any opinions or recomendations??
I guess I don't understand why you need a rear bumper for your tire. Why not buy a more heavy duty tire holder for $200 or under. You can even get one directly from Jeep. I run my 305/70/17 KTM2 on my rear with an upgraded unit from Jeep. Check it out.
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Old 06-21-2013, 05:29 PM   #6
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I did temporarily after I upgraded to 35s. Went offroading and just strapped it to the roll bar. I bought the Daystar bump stops as a temp fix until my bumper/tire carrier is installed. Just got it yesterday and installing it this weekend
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Old 06-21-2013, 05:35 PM   #7
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MY heavy 305/70/16 Duratrac has started to make the rear tailgate door start to clunk at the hinge over bumps. I don't want to dip into my regearing stash to buy a $800-$1000 rear bumper with a tire carrier.
I'm thinking of ditching my spare tire and replacing the mount with a Poison Spyder tramp stamp. I have an onboard compressor. I was thinking of carrying a plug kit.
And maybe throw the spare inside on wheeling outings.
I really don't see much need to carry one around town with a M/T or and aggressive and thick tread like my Duratracs.
Any opinions or recomendations??
Don't go wheeling without a spare tire. You'll be sorry one day, and roadside service wont be able to get to you. Around town would be fine. Just get a ride home to your spare....

I have a full size spare with matching rim. I think it looks kind of blingy in a cool way. But not everyone has my tastes.

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I guess I don't understand why you need a rear bumper for your tire. Why not buy a more heavy duty tire holder for $200 or under. You can even get one directly from Jeep. I run my 305/70/17 KTM2 on my rear with an upgraded unit from Jeep. Check it out.
What's that going to do for the sheet metal and the hinges? Damage has already been done to the OP's tailgate, wouldn't it be too late?

What's a 305/70/17 in real sizes anyway?
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Old 06-21-2013, 06:42 PM   #8
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I guess I don't understand why you need a rear bumper for your tire. Why not buy a more heavy duty tire holder for $200 or under. You can even get one directly from Jeep. I run my 305/70/17 KTM2 on my rear with an upgraded unit from Jeep. Check it out.
The tire mount is ok, but the door hinges seem to have some play in them so you get an annoying clunk over small bumps. I tend to turn the radio up, but I would guess that it will only get worse over time. Actually got worse after the last wheeling trip after taking some hard bumps. I came off some buried culvert pipes and hit the hitch pretty hard coming off of one of the pipes and it must have tweaked the rear door hinges.
The only other solution I thought of was the OR FAB tire mount. It mounts to the existing hinges and you don't need to buy a bumper, but not sure that would solve the problem.
305/70/16 is equal to 33"/12.5"/16
I looked at the Teraflex, but again that's over $400 bucks.
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Old 06-21-2013, 09:33 PM   #9
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The tire mount is ok, but the door hinges seem to have some play in them so you get an annoying clunk over small bumps. I tend to turn the radio up, but I would guess that it will only get worse over time. Actually got worse after the last wheeling trip after taking some hard bumps. I came off some buried culvert pipes and hit the hitch pretty hard coming off of one of the pipes and it must have tweaked the rear door hinges.
The only other solution I thought of was the OR FAB tire mount. It mounts to the existing hinges and you don't need to buy a bumper, but not sure that would solve the problem.
305/70/16 is equal to 33"/12.5"/16
I looked at the Teraflex, but again that's over $400 bucks.
Guess I'm lucky. I take mine off roading a lot and my hinges don't rattle at all with the heavier duty tire carrier from Jeep. Oh, the 305/70/16 is actually 32.8"/12.01/16. Just thought I'd throw that in.
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I really don't see much need to carry one around town with a M/T or and aggressive and thick tread like my Duratracs.
don't let the thick tread fool you. I had my duratracs on for less than three months when I ran over a screw and it punctured the tire. It found its way between the lugs, wiley little screw. So, either have a spare handy, or a tire plug kit + air compressor of some kind.

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I did temporarily after I upgraded to 35s. Went offroading and just strapped it to the roll bar.
This (putting the spare upright on one side in the rear of the tub) is probably my favorite set up. Granted, you have to remove the rear seat if you're driving a 2-door, and the already limited space in the rear becomes even more limited. Depends on your circumstances and needs.

When I have enough monies for 35's and the PS BFH rear bumper, that's where the spare is going
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Old 06-21-2013, 11:21 PM   #11
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I'll bring my spare on the nastiest stuff but on steep nasty big rock trails I'll leave it in camp and lighten the rear for steep stuff....
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don't let the thick tread fool you. I had my duratracs on for less than three months when I ran over a screw and it punctured the tire. It found its way between the lugs, wiley little screw. So, either have a spare handy, or a tire plug kit + air compressor of some kind.



This (putting the spare upright on one side in the rear of the tub) is probably my favorite set up. Granted, you have to remove the rear seat if you're driving a 2-door, and the already limited space in the rear becomes even more limited. Depends on your circumstances and needs.

When I have enough monies for 35's and the PS BFH rear bumper, that's where the spare is going
Thanks for this post. I figured duratracs were a lot tougher than that.

Honestly, i ran over a *THREE QUARTER INCH* bolt once with a big rig. I have no clue how that even punctured anything.. LOL.

I liked that setup too, but it'd make it hard to put the soft top down. I see that was a hard top in the pic though. Would work better.

I've thought about just throwing my spare in the back when i go wheeling and not having a spare around town. But i like the way it looks on the tailgate, and i'd have a hard time lowering the top with it laying in the back too...or hauling...anything.


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Guess I'm lucky. I take mine off roading a lot and my hinges don't rattle at all with the heavier duty tire carrier from Jeep. Oh, the 305/70/16 is actually 32.8"/12.01/16. Just thought I'd throw that in.
Mine doesnt rattle at all with the stock carrier. I have a 33x12.5 duratrac on there. Thanks for commenting on the tire size. That should be super close to my non-metric tire.

Anyway I think it's an issue of wear and tear. I did a LOT of research before i felt comfortable driving with that thing on the tailgate, and im still not comfortable with it at all. As far as i can tell, they work fine. Until something breaks. Like the spot welds. And then they make noise. So ..

My tailgate has an obvious gap at the top though. I suppose my hinges need to be adjusted. I cant remember if it was like that before i put the tire on or not.
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Old 06-22-2013, 05:52 PM   #13
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Thanks for the input. If it gets worse or more annoying I think I'll cowboy up and get the Teraflex tire carrier upgrade. I looked at the install and it looked pretty quick and east compared to the OR FAB where some drilling was required.
Probably not the best idea to run with out a spare.
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....or you could do this. I like the visibility and the clean look. If I'm taking a trip I throw the spare in the back. I even took the back seats out for more room.
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....or you could do this. I like the visibility and the clean look. If I'm taking a trip I throw the spare in the back. I even took the back seats out for more room.
You should put your license plate there
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^ A plate would look good there, but it wouldn't be smart not having a 3rd light. I could have put a small tail light over/under the plate but it wouldn't have been as effective.
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I really wish the teraflex hd hinge thing wasn't so expensive.
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Old 06-23-2013, 08:50 AM   #18
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I really wish the teraflex hd hinge thing wasn't so expensive.
Worth every penny.

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....or you could do this. I like the visibility and the clean look. If I'm taking a trip I throw the spare in the back. I even took the back seats out for more room.
I like that look. Clean and you still have a 3rd light.
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Worth every penny.

Nice set up. What size tire is that? Looks like the Pro Comp wheels I have. Are yours Pro Comps or Mickey Thompson?
Yea if I keep a spare, the Teraflex deal seems like the way to go.
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I sure don't want to lug that heavy rig (tire,bumper,spare holder) around ! Throw the spare in the back or on somebodys trailer when you feel the need.p.s I don't think the tramp stamp looks that cheap...pretty clean if you ask me.
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Bump for tire in the back.
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Nice set up. What size tire is that? Looks like the Pro Comp wheels I have. Are yours Pro Comps or Mickey Thompson?
Yea if I keep a spare, the Teraflex deal seems like the way to go.
This my old rig, a victim of Sandy. It's a 315/70-17 Duratrac on 17 inch Mick Thompson Signature Series. I bought a 2012 MW3 that this is all going on hopefully this week when the all the lift parts arrive.
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Bump for tire in the back.
I think I'm going to do the same thing, does is stay put for the most part?
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Been pushing my luck with a 35" Nitto Trail Grappler in the stock spot with no tire bump stops for a little over a year, no creaks, but I can tell the spot welds are stressed. Anyone else run their spare like this?

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Old 06-29-2013, 02:07 PM   #26
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I think I'm going to do the same thing, does is stay put for the most part?
Yea I also liked the tire in the back. I'm thinking of pulling out the back seat anyway and putting it in storage. The seats pretty worthless unless your backseat passengers are kids or circus contortionists.
That would leave plenty of room to maybe strap the spare to the roll bar.
I readjusted the weatherstripping around the rear door and that seemed to help alot to quiet the clunking.
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In the last two years, I have had a flat in each of the three vehicles in my house...including my 2013 JKR...and I keep our vehicles maintained well. We just have not been very lucky. I also had a flat in my TJ last year before I sold it, but that one was on a construction site, so it was a bit more understandable.

Personally, I feel naked without a spare....and am not willing to give up cargo space. Thus, the cost of a tire carrier is worth it IMO, but your mileage (and priorities) may vary.
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Old 06-29-2013, 03:38 PM   #28
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Had plenty of roofing nails in my tires after the hurricanes of 2004 when everybody got their roofs blown off and roofers were practically sprinkling nails on every roadway.
But I still never ran flat. Yea my tires had more plugs than Donald Trumps hairline but as long as you don't pull out the offending object, I've been ok.

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