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Old 09-06-2012, 10:48 PM   #61
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But he's got a point. I was one of those guys he was laughing at, rushing to lift my jeep even before I had the keys in hand. His comment directly implies to me.

Before I pulled the trigger on a lift, I did some offroading and was seriously impressed by the capabilities of my stock wrangler. A lift kit would still be nice, but now I don't see it as a necessity for most of the trails around these parts.
Yup. For what it's worth, we were laughing about how some guys rush to get a lift because they don't realize how capable the stock wrangler is. We were laughing with glee at the awesomeness of my jeep, not laughing at anyone else. I don't know how my comment was misread to apply to all lifted jeeps, but whatever. Some folks are just sensitive, I guess.

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Old 09-06-2012, 11:24 PM   #62
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That's the description I was looking for when I made my earlier post.
Different shocks worked wonders for making my Jeep now feel more stable and planted to the road.

Even though I raised my center of gravity, I also moved the tires out by using rims with less backspacing.
What mods did you make? What are the specs and backspacing on the wheels you went with?

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Love my JKU stock height. The tires are bigger than what I could fit on my 93 YJ which was stock height also. I drove that YJ off road all over AZ, not extreme trails but lots of sand, rock, and creek crossings. I never needed or wanted it lifted. Now I live in CO and looking forward to hitting some more trails but nothing that requires a lifted suspension.

Watch what some of the stock jeeps in this video are doing, and ask yourself if you really need that lift, bigger tires, or "high clearance" bumper. Most of them are put on for looks, not as an actual requirement. Sorry, hope this does not get me kicked off the forum, but keeping' it real...
I'd be doing the lift, wheels, and tires more for looks than anything else. My Rubicon is perfectly capable for the terrain I'm normally on.

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Old 01-15-2013, 02:33 PM   #63
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Been wheeling my stock Jeep for 3 years and 33,000 miles. Only thing I did to the suspension/tires is put on unlimited Rubicon springs and 255/80/17 KM2's, which are a 33x10.5x17. I've been wanting to lift it for a couple years and run 35's, but damn if it isn't because I just want to buy stuff! And that hasn't been a good enough reason.

I run trails with guys on 35's and 37's and although they make it through much easier and without scraping their skids, I still follow them through 99% of the time. I barely ever have to use my winch. These are considered moderate to difficult trails or if you have been to a Jeep Jamboree they are 6,7,8 rated.

Now I did have do some things to protect the undercarriage considering I'm doing quite a bit of dragging... diff covers, full skids, stabilizer relocation and control arm skids. And after 3 years, I'm probably going to have to buy a new skid system, but they did their job.

Soooo if you like your Jeep stock, keep it stock and wheel the crap out of it, upgrade things as they are needed or break. If anything you will be the exception rather than following the masses, which is kinda cool I think.

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Old 01-15-2013, 07:33 PM   #64
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I like my stock setup and don't really plan to change anything except as mentioned maybe add some skid plates.
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Sorry, I'm missing ma wee Jeepy. She's in the shop for 'er head and I'm stuck in a bloody rental Honda Accord for now.
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:08 AM   #65
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Happy here with 33" tires and stock suspension. Don't plan on modifying it.
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Old 01-16-2013, 02:21 AM   #66
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I need to have a stiffer ride here, but I don't want a big lift. I'm planning on running 33-34 inch Duratracs and flat fenders for some room.

Would you put in a spacer set, or find a coil lift? I'm looking at leveling kits, and lifts up to 2".

Do new shocks provide a stiffer ride on a stock JKU?

I ran a TJ with a Rough Country kit (Jeep TJ Wrangler Suspension Lift) with Doetsch MV12 shocks (Doetsch Nitro Slammer - MV12 Performance Racking Shock). I really liked the stiff ride I had. I switched to Bilstein shocks after having them recommended for a nice ride, they did ride nice, but were almost too bouncy for me and soft. It took awhile getting used to them, although in the end it was ok.

So when I got the JKU I found the ride was even softer, especially in the corners where I can really feel the body roll.

So shoot some ideas out for me here.

I also don't have a clue to the height comparison underneath. I should have measured the TJ before selling it but forgot. I do worry a bit about the clearance as I don't want to scrape the belly up (even with skids).
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:00 AM   #67
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:17 AM   #68
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ManleyORV. We have the same perspective. I don't mean to hijack thread, but my off-road shop advised me not to add the skids I went in to buy. Said I needed more experience before spending on mods, plus said the factory protection though not as good as aftermarket, still they were adequate at my level. (I think they felt a winch should eat my first mod dollar expense)

You, canyonrat, and ConArtist encourage me I am on right track. I have no interest in lifting/taller-tires, but I do feel the need for belly protection. Can you share your recommendations? PM or here.
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:47 AM   #69
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Been wheeling my stock Jeep for 3 years and 33,000 miles. Only thing I did to the suspension/tires is put on unlimited Rubicon springs and 255/80/17 KM2's, which are a 33x10.5x17. I've been wanting to lift it for a couple years and run 35's, but damn if it isn't because I just want to buy stuff! And that hasn't been a good enough reason.

I run trails with guys on 35's and 37's and although they make it through much easier and without scraping their skids, I still follow them through 99% of the time. I barely ever have to use my winch. These are considered moderate to difficult trails or if you have been to a Jeep Jamboree they are 6,7,8 rated.

Now I did have do some things to protect the undercarriage considering I'm doing quite a bit of dragging... diff covers, full skids, stabilizer relocation and control arm skids. And after 3 years, I'm probably going to have to buy a new skid system, but they did their job.

Soooo if you like your Jeep stock, keep it stock and wheel the crap out of it, upgrade things as they are needed or break. If anything you will be the exception rather than following the masses, which is kinda cool I think.

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That is great to hear and see in the photos. I bought mine because Wrangler is extremely capable stock and have no current plans to hit trails as difficult as the ones pictured. If I do change and go more advanced off roading in the future, I have the same philosophy. I will upgrade as needed.

The answer is yes I am happy with the stock suspension.
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I'm swapping out the 13/55 springs & black shocks out of my Sahara for a set of 18/59 springs & red shocks out of a Rubi. I'm excited to see what this will do as far as handling and ride.
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I am. I added 1-3/4" spacers and want to put a set of 33's on my 2012. I did the spacers just to get the proportions (what I feel is) right. The stock JK looks just a little too low to me for some reason.

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