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Old 08-26-2013, 12:54 AM   #1
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Why a 4 door?

How do they differ in term of the way that they maneuver on a road or creek or rocks? I am planning to order and am wondering whether the length of the Unlimited is valuable. This is for DD, trails and beach. Is there a significant advantage to one or the other, or is it just personal preference? Does one have a wider track than the other? Do the back seats on the Wrangler fold down?

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The back seats fold down and they are both the same width. It really comes down to if you want the extra space and ease of access to the rear seat.

From my experience on trails they both have pro's and con's. The longer wheelbase of the 4 door makes some trails a lot easier then the 2 door. Get into a tight trail and I'm constantly worried about hitting the ass of it on a tree or rock.

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How do they differ in term of the way that they maneuver on a road or creek or rocks? I am planning to order and am wondering whether the length of the Unlimited is valuable. This is for DD, trails and beach. Is there a significant advantage to one or the other, or is it just personal preference? Does one have a wider track than the other? Do the back seats on the Wrangler fold down?

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If you will be bringing friends (i.e 2+ passengers) to the beach with you, you wont have space at all on the 2 door. Cooler, canopy, umbrellas, chairs, backpacks of all friends, bags, chips, blablablabla. It just simply does not fit on a 2 door with rear passengers unless you start adding racks on an aftermarket tire carrier and on the top, or... on the f*cking ugly thing some people stick into the hitch receiver.

If you are going solo or just another person then it will work as you can take out the rear seats on a 2 door.

Then the rest is all about wheelbase, turning radius and rear driveshaft length.
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Old 08-26-2013, 04:55 AM   #4
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I've had three 2 door wranglers. On my first 4 door now. Its my DD and biggest difference for me (other than added space) is driving in the winter. While all were great in 4WD, the 2 door would kick the rear in out from under you in a hurry if in 2WD. Had that happen several times. 4 door longer wheel base does a lot better in 2WD.
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Old 08-26-2013, 06:51 AM   #5
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If you need space for cargo or people the 4 door no question. If you want max agility on the trails and dont have kids then 2 door. Been on several trail rides in the woods where the 4 doors had hard time getting around some tight spots.
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Space. We just returned from a week at the beach. 5 people and all their gear. Everything you see in this picture including the cooler fit in the cargo area.




That is as good as any other SUV we've owned in the past. A 2 door would have been a lot of fun to have but from a practical "living with it everyday" standpoint the 4 door is the way to go IMHO.

As far as off road the 2 doors have it all over the 4 doors in terms of making tight turns but my inexperienced observation thus far into Jeep life, is it just depends in everything else. I've seen 4 doors seem to easily walk right up and over obstacles compared to the 2 doors because the wheelbase was an advantage at that particular spot. Vice versa I've also seen the 4 doors hang up (break over angle) while the 2 doors went right through. If I personally ever build one as 100% toy it would likely be a 2 door. Any other uses (90% toy 10% not toy, etc) for it I'd go with the 4 door every time.
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Old 08-26-2013, 07:51 AM   #7
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I find the road manners of the 4-door to be better, but confess that I haven't driven a 2-door JK. I had a TJ for 8 years and found it handled a little rough at highway speeds, whereas the new 4-door drives very well. Are the 2-door JKs better handling on the highway than the older Jeeps like the TJ?
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Are the 2-door JKs better handling on the highway than the older Jeeps like the TJ?
Oh Lord YES. First time I got in my JK after driving my TJ for so many years, I could NOT believe the ride comfort and quiet. It was like riding in a limo compared to my TJ. HUGE improvement in road manners.
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The 4 door is more "civilized" than the 2 door while driving on road. It handles more like a car than a jeep on road.

Off road, obviously the 4 door is longer so it won't be as maneuverable in some situations. Then again, the longer wheel base does has some advantages in certain situations.

i was originally looking at 2 door JK, test drove it and 4 door (had one on the lot), liked the on-road handling better with the 4 door.

Yes, there's a lot more room inside JKU than JK (as already pointed out) for 4 people (JK seats 5, but unless they are small/tiny/children, really seats 4 comfortably).
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If you lift as planned the extra wheel base is nice, but if all comes down to personal preference.
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As a DD it is hard to beat a 4door. I have put over 16000 miles on my less than a year old 2013 4 door. Depending on what kind of off roading you do both have some advantages. Fast dirt roads 4door. slow technical stuff I think 2doors turn so much quicker and can back out of places easier.

We do a lot of tent camping and we load it to the gills. Even when only my wife and I go we fold down the backseat and there is no way we could get everything we take in a 2 door. Now that all said I think 2 doors look better and every time I see one I want one lol. The only time I am thankful I got the 4 door is when I am packing for a trip.
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As a DD it is hard to beat a 4door. I have put over 16000 miles on my less than a year old 2013 4 door. Depending on what kind of off roading you do both have some advantages. Fast dirt roads 4door. slow technical stuff I think 2doors turn so much quicker and can back out of places easier.

We do a lot of tent camping and we load it to the gills. Even when only my wife and I go we fold down the backseat and there is no way we could get everything we take in a 2 door. Now that all said I think 2 doors look better and every time I see one I want one lol. The only time I am thankful I got the 4 door is when I am packing for a trip.
Fit more ppl "comfortably" while wheeling lol
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I bought a 4-door for the offroading advantages. Its much more stable, especially if you are lifted. The longer the wheelbase that you can get over an obstacle without getting high centered is better. So the 2-dr is less likely to be high centered, but makes for some SCARY inclines and leans when on the trail.
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For me it was simple. I wanted to take friends with me on Jeeping trips. We are mostly 60+ so getting in and out of a two door back seat was going to be tough. Also Im handicapped by a bad back so the lower door sill played a big part in that.
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I can give you 15 reasons why you should purchase a 2 door as I have.
On the next post somebody will give you 15 reasons why to purchase a 4 door.
AT THIS POINT, YOU WILL BECOME EVEN MORE CONFUSED!

What you are receiving is just Members opinions.

It's like asking what color should I get, opinions, but it's really only your opinion that counts, because you have to live with it.

Why don't you just go down to your local Dealer and drive one of each, and then make your decision based on your needs, verses what you have just driven.

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5 people and all their gear. Everything you see in this picture including the cooler fit in the cargo area.
Where did you put the three kids? In the cooler? :-)
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Thanks for all of the reasoned posts. I will be going to a dealership soon. It is about 50+ miles away, so I need to carve out some time to get there.
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How do they differ in term of the way that they maneuver on a road or creek or rocks? I am planning to order and am wondering whether the length of the Unlimited is valuable. This is for DD, trails and beach. Is there a significant advantage to one or the other, or is it just personal preference? Does one have a wider track than the other? Do the back seats on the Wrangler fold down?

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I went with the 4 door. A couple of reasons that I chose an Unlimited.
1: Extra Cargo Space
2: 3500 pound Towing capacity vs the 2000 pound of the 2 Door.

Yes the seats fold down.
I would Imagine that in some situations an Unlimited would help and in others a 2 Door would help. The 2 Door is going to have a smaller turning radius because of the shorter wheel base. Its also going to be able to clear some other obsticals better since it's shorter and wont bottom out comming off the top of a steep hill as easily.

But it does boil down to Personal Preferance.

BTW: I have an unlimited, but as of 2 hours ago I have a 0 door.
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I like to have my kids with me as much as I can, so I would not have dreamed of buying a jeep that wouldn't hold the 3 of them. It is the perfect vehicle . . . until we get onto the trails in the forest and I watch the TJs maneuver around trees and make tight corners. Then I feel like I am driving a school bus. I may get a 2 door 15 years from now when they are all out of the house, but for now, it is as close to perfect as I believe I can get.
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This video shows about the only disadvantage of the Unlimited. "Breakover Angle"
They also cost more, and have a larger turning radius. That wasn't enough to stop me though. I wanted the extra cargo room and towing capacity.

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This video shows about the only disadvantage of the Unlimited. "Breakover Angle"
They also cost more, and have a larger turning radius. That wasn't enough to stop me though. I wanted the extra cargo room and towing capacity.

That is HILARIOUS!! I got stuck in the exact same spot. I'll try to get the video somewhere. The trick to that particular section is speed to make it over.

4 door disadvantage while offroading is the breakover angle. However, big advantage in terms of steep climbs and not feeling like you will tip backwards.
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We looked at 4 door, but the JK was to replace our car- which was relegated to commuting for work... and the odd sidetrip.
Our van is for the long trips on highway and to cart kids... So practicality up the wazoo..
The JK 2dr was a long time coming. I alsways wanted one. So yeah we coulda popped for the 4 dr as it would have made life easier (kids in car seats, luggage) but honestly the biggest reason why we didnt
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This video shows about the only disadvantage of the Unlimited. "Breakover Angle"
They also cost more, and have a larger turning radius. That wasn't enough to stop me though. I wanted the extra cargo room and towing capacity.

Although the video may be deceiving, it looks like a slightly different line would have allowed the driver to clear the obstacle without issue. He drove in the ruts all the way up, which is fine, but it looked like coming out of the ruts near the top (looked like there was enough room to the right) would have been a better line. Like I said, it may be deceiving.

Which line you choose is important, and can change depending on among other things 2d vrs 4d. The Unlimited is only about 18" longer and the turning radius is only about 6' wider. Unless you're in a really really tight spot, I think the difference is very manageable.
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The significant advantage is the 4 door has 4 doors/a useful backseat and can be equipped with a 3rd row seat with aftermarket parts...


The significant advantage is 2 doors look cool.

2 doors have a better approach angle for rock crawling. I will never need that ability. I can crawl rocks with my body. Where i wheel is full of silverados with 8 foot beds...... jeeps do better than they do because of weight distribution though. both the 2 door and 4 door have good 50/50 weight distribution.

2 doors are TINY.

2 doors = half the work to take the doors off.
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Although the video may be deceiving, it looks like a slightly different line would have allowed the driver to clear the obstacle without issue. He drove in the ruts all the way up, which is fine, but it looked like coming out of the ruts near the top (looked like there was enough room to the right) would have been a better line. Like I said, it may be deceiving.

Which line you choose is important, and can change depending on among other things 2d vrs 4d. The Unlimited is only about 18" longer and the turning radius is only about 6' wider. Unless you're in a really really tight spot, I think the difference is very manageable.
This is coming out of Lake Christy at Rausch.... and it is very very hard to do anything BUT ride the ruts up. We did have one of our 4 doors make it over the top without issue, but that is because he hit it with SPEED. All of the 2 doors made it over with no issue (well, matador was our one 2 door and we had a Defender 90 in the group).
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The 2 door looks like a real Jeep Wrangler, great looking...........

The 4 door looks like a hearse, made for funeral processions, and it is also similar to a Hummer, YUK, JUST AWFULL....................
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The 2 door looks like a real Jeep Wrangler, great looking...........

The 4 door looks like a hearse, made for funeral processions, and it is also similar to a Hummer, YUK, JUST AWFULL....................
damn who doesn't love a hummer...I was just telling my wife I wanted a Hummer lol.
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damn who doesn't love a hummer...I was just telling my wife I wanted a Hummer lol.
HUUUUMMMM, I wonder why they quit making them, because I am sure that they were very high in demand. Now that just has me confused...........

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