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Old 05-17-2011, 05:20 PM   #1
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Why a short bumper?

I like the Poison Spyder bumpers, but they don't seem to make any full width. This got me to wondering, Why a short bumper?

Is it because it gives you plenty of room for your tires?

Was looking at this Mopar bumper





But this looks pretty cool too

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Old 05-17-2011, 05:23 PM   #2
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IMO a short bumper gives a more aggressive look (I have one ) it also lowers the chance of whacking your bumper on a tall rock that your trying to climb over (which I did with a stock width bumper) however a wide bumper should provide greater impact protection from an accident if you got hit, or hit someone at an angle.

Mostly I think its just preference

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Old 05-17-2011, 05:29 PM   #3
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if you get in a deeper rut where a wider bumper might catch the ground, now your tire will catch it instead of the bumper. just my theory.
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Old 05-17-2011, 05:36 PM   #4
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We have the mopar full length bumper, but we're having it cut down to a shorter one... it's easier to put your tire on an obstacle with a shorter bumper, and IMO, it just looks better.
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Old 05-18-2011, 09:44 AM   #5
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Old 05-18-2011, 09:46 AM   #6
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that mopar bumper looks awesome IMO, and i like how the winch comes through it and is protected. i dont think the winch is very attractive and the mopar bumper hides it nicely
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Old 05-18-2011, 12:38 PM   #7
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. It's easier to put your tire on an obstacle with a shorter bumper, and imo, it just looks better.
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I always find it funny when I see Jeeps with stingers. I don't think most people who run them know what they are for.
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I always find it funny when I see Jeeps with stingers. I don't think most people who run them know what they are for.
To prevent forward rollover/ look f'n badass? I love the way stingers look. I am going to get one on my jeep soon.
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stingers are for rocks, steep hills, and posers^


Short bumper = easier to get tires on anything, looks better/more aggressive, less weight, cheaper, more clearance/less chance of smashing your bumper.

I plan on buying my bumper frm PS, and after looking at the BFH (stubby) and the Rock Brawler (mid length) even though the mid length is gorgeous, I still think I would end up using the end caps to run up over stumps, rocks, etc, and then have a scratched up bumper.
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To prevent forward rollover/ look f'n badass? I love the way stingers look. I am going to get one on my jeep soon.
Thats what he's talking about. The actual "purpose" is not to look "f'n bad@$$" but alot of people end up putting them on their mall crawlers for that reason. They are a functional and important piece of structure to many serious jeeps, but are used by so many who would never really need one. So everytime I see a jeep with a stinger, I have to ask my self, is he for real, or a poser?
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Old 05-18-2011, 02:57 PM   #12
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Well I know what they are for and I think they look good, just like you like the short bumpers, I like stingers. Personal taste. I saw a lifted 4dr (shocker) with like 28 in rims. Thats his waste of money and choice. But he is still wrong, lol.
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Old 05-18-2011, 03:17 PM   #13
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I'm putting a stinger on for 2 reasons:

1) I know what their purpose is.
2) So my wife can see where to stop. She claims that the hood is too short and she can't judge it. I'll give her a visual marker.
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That stinger is hideously to big...
Just something else to get in the way.
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That stinger is hideously to big...
Just something else to get in the way.
It's kind of like when people install 8 lights and a light bar with 5 more lights on it. I mean, do you really need all that? Always blows my mind.
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that mopar bumper looks awesome IMO, and i like how the winch comes through it and is protected. i dont think the winch is very attractive and the mopar bumper hides it nicely
In normal cases yes. But warn winches are beautiful IMO. But the added protection of it being inside is still nice regardless
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In normal cases yes. But warn winches are beautiful IMO. But the added protection of it being inside is still nice regardless

I was just reading another thread about hidden winches and someone posted this thread

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/my-...nch-87776.html

Unfortunatly i dont think it is possible on a TJ
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I was just reading another thread about hidden winches and someone posted this thread

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/my-...nch-87776.html

Unfortunatly i dont think it is possible on a TJ
That's pretty sweet idea. Cudos to him. But yeah. The TJs bumper is skinnier and we have the frame rail inside of it too. So yeah don't think that's happening anytime soon
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Are you guys allowed to run stingers and stubby bars over there? Our front bar is not allowed to protrude forward at all (stingers) and has to cover the full width of the vehicle to not get pulled over by the fun police.

Not saying I havent seen stubby bars on the road here, but not many. There are a few modular bars down here for that reason tho.
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But this looks pretty cool too
maybe it's just me but it makes me laugh that this Jeep has a child's seat in the back..like do you really need a stinger that big when you have your children with you? (or a stinger that big ever really)
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heh, good eye.
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maybe it's just me but it makes me laugh that this Jeep has a child's seat in the back..like do you really need a stinger that big when you have your children with you? (or a stinger that big ever really)
It's an aid for parallel parking....
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maybe it's just me but it makes me laugh that this Jeep has a child's seat in the back..like do you really need a stinger that big when you have your children with you? (or a stinger that big ever really)
I happen to know the guy that drives that jeep, he is not a poser and uses his rig on the rocks, so yes it does have a purpose, and as far as the carseat....some people do have kids...and use their jeep as a daily driver when they are not in afghanistan putting their ass on the line..
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Just because you know him doesn't change the fact that it is ridiculously big..I never said anything about being a poser..so does that mean the word poser came to mind for you when you look at that Jeep?
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I know this is the JK section but I want to chime in.

#1 I am all for stubby bumpers esp for of road Jeeps (I have one). However, there is such a thing as not long enough. My last time out wheelin I discovered that I wish my bumper was 1-2 inches longer on each side. I managed to tag a tree and if my bumper was 1-2 inches longer I would have been fine. Unfortunatley the tree just caught the edge of my pass fender and areched it up all together. So to sum it up I am a firm believer that front bumpers should go from edge of metal fender to edge of metal fender.

#2 Whats with all this stinger hate? Yes they are to help prevent forward roll overs but the main reason that I have one is the fact that if you do roll over (any roll over) it helps prevent the front end from crushing in damaging the radiator or moving parts. So in an ideal situation you are able to roll the jeep back over and still drive it home or at least off the trail.
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I'd get a roll cage before a stinger if I was concerned about a rollover.
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I prefer the hood hoop, or that same exact setup as seen on the JK just with a smaller stinger. Something like Gen-right setup.
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#2 Whats with all this stinger hate? Yes they are to help prevent forward roll overs but the main reason that I have one is the fact that if you do roll over (any roll over) it helps prevent the front end from crushing in damaging the radiator or moving parts. So in an ideal situation you are able to roll the jeep back over and still drive it home or at least off the trail.
How can you pull up to an obstacle like this with a stinger like on that JK?

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Just because you know him doesn't change the fact that it is ridiculously big..I never said anything about being a poser..so does that mean the word poser came to mind for you when you look at that Jeep?


The Poser reference came from the above posts, not yours.., I just find it funny how some people on this forum talk shit about other peoples jeeps..

Whatever happened to if you dont have anything nice to say dont say anything....guess its a thing of the past...
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How can you pull up to an obstacle like this with a stinger like on that JK?

Hey I never said that the stinger on that JK wasnt a tad bit obscene.




Mine isnt quite as bad but still a bit more than I would have wanted.....however I got mine for $327 shipped to my door so I didnt complain. If I do eventualy change it out I am going to go with a Gen-right.

But to answer your question you approach it at a slight angle to get your wheels up first.

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