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Old 07-11-2013, 12:42 PM   #31
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They work on vampires equally well.

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I don't have a need for lights all over the place. I do drive with my fog lights on a lot, because they give me a wider coverage of the immediate ground area.

The most I'll likely do is windshield mounted dualies for directional light and possibly upgrade the fogs and headlights in time.

The light bar accross the top is useless and somewhat annoying to me. And as stated, a lot of people are running a bunch of lights, so it's pretty likely if that much light is ever needed, there will probably be some else around with them.

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I don't have a need for lights all over the place. I do drive with my fog lights on a lot, because they give me a wider coverage of the immediate ground area.

The most I'll likely do is windshield mounted dualies for directional light and possibly upgrade the fogs and headlights in time.

The light bar accross the top is useless and somewhat annoying to me. And as stated, a lot of people are running a bunch of lights, so it's pretty likely if that much light is ever needed, there will probably be some else around with them.
My roof bar is a spot only and illuminates for up to a mile which on long trails (such as northern Nevada) is very helpful. I don't use it on windy forest trails as its just not necessary. The roof bar is for long distance throw.
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I get that light bars and lights can look cool but one thing I don't get is why so many people think it is a must have mod. I have seen folks do a lift and run 35s as cheap as they can only to turn around and spend thousands of dollars on lights. Nothing wrong with that at all except more and more "builds" like this are showing up on the trails.

Something that is even stranger to me is the fact that I have people asking me all the time how come I haven't put a lot of lights on my jeep. Sure some of them are joking but most are not. It seams that lots of people believe it is a must have mod, especially if you wheel. I just don't get it.

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Define "a lot of lights"
Anything over 1 or two I guess. Or maybe just any extra lights at all.

I do have some LEDs I replaced my fogs with, only because I got them to demo and my fogs blew out during a river crossing.
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Anything over 1 or two I guess. Or maybe just any extra lights at all.

I do have some LEDs I replaced my fogs with, only because I got them to demo and my fogs blew out during a river crossing.
Ah ok. Although I don't have extras yet, I will soon. I live in Tucson and when you're out in the desert in the middle of the night, it's quite dark and some areas you can run pre-runner style and haul ass, so the more light the merrier.
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I think I have "added to cart" at least a dozen times on different sets of lights just to dump it out again. I just can't find a good reason for my drive 1 mile a day ride in a heavy rural area to get more lights other then to have the mod count factor. the damn jk came with a bunch of stuff already that will never get used. but that's what's fun about a jeep. put a whole lot of aftermarket parts on in case shit happens.
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I can definitely see where you're coming from with this WatchThis!. I personally have seen a rig with over 3 grand in lights that still didn't have a winch or lift. And as you said a huge quantity of lights is useless when you're behind a buddy on the trail (which I always am when wheeling at night). The only aux lights I run is a single flood pattern rigid 10" angled down and its plenty for me.

However I do understand having a lot if lights if you wheel a lot at night and are in the front or alone. It also could be useful for camping. Just depends on how you use your Jeep I suppose.
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I can definitely see where you're coming from with this WatchThis!. I personally have seen a rig with over 3 grand in lights that still didn't have a winch or lift. And as you said a huge quantity of lights is useless when you're behind a buddy on the trail (which I always am when wheeling at night). The only aux lights I run is a single flood pattern rigid 10" angled down and its plenty for me.

However I do understand having a lot if lights if you wheel a lot at night and are in the front or alone. It also could be useful for camping. Just depends on how you use your Jeep I suppose.
That all makes perfect since. I understand why lots of people need/want more lighting I just wonder if anyone can explain the people that have light bars and light that arnt even hooked up? Y'all heard me right. I see it more often then you would think.

I mean if you do something just for looks that's cool but don't pretend you did it for anything but looking cool.

I was just mainly wondering out loud why lots of people think you HAVE to have extra lights hanging off of your rig, especially if you wheel it.
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That all makes perfect since. I understand why lots of people need/want more lighting I just wonder if anyone can explain the people that have light bars and light that arnt even hooked up? Y'all heard me right. I see it more often then you would think.

I mean if you do something just for looks that's cool but don't pretend you did it for anything but looking cool.

I was just mainly wondering out loud why lots of people think you HAVE to have extra lights hanging off of your rig, especially if you wheel it.
Now, that's news to me. Hilarious news... I would like additional lights, which I think would be useful for setting up camp in the dark. It could also blind the hell out of them, I'm not quite sure yet.

Rock lights are also planned - wheeled once in the dark and the handheld flashlights were annoying.

The day I spend $110 for a fuel door is the day I absolutely run out of stuff to add to the Jeep and just need to piss away money.
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now having them and not even plugged up is stupid. I want everything to work if needed. for example my last car had an entire auto-x setup and I think I tracked it 2 times in 8 years. had it if I needed to show off. that's all there is to it.
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I haven't done my lights yet. But when we use to camp. Getting back to camp site was a little tight so it was nice being able to see where you were going. The older TJ don't have the brightest lights and converting them helps but still nice to have extra light when it is needed. When I added extra lights mine will be hooked up and used. Otherwise I won't do it.
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I'm going to be one of those people that'll go overkill with the lights. I made a big order to Chris (the JeepAddOns Vender on this forum) recently & am planning to run this set-up:

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Where I'll be living we get 6 straight months of no sun (literally). No paved roads so I have no idea what I'm driving over if it's solid ice/gravel or permafrost/tundra. Also instead of deer running at me I have to worry about polar bears, moose, & wolves. One of my buddies totaled his FJ driving 45 MPH & a polar bear just jumped right in front of him, . He ended up getting a JK as a replacement vehicle. Maybe it happened for a reason. Lol.

Now people buying thousands of dollars of aux lights & not hooking them up? That's news to me. I can't imagine walking up to a rig with a bunch of lights not plugged to anything. Lol.
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The day I spend $110 for a fuel door is the day I absolutely run out of stuff to add to the Jeep and just need to piss away money.
Off topic but you could get a MOPAR one with the JEEP on the door for like $50 on eBay. Mine came in yesterday, .

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Don't get me wrong I don't think there is anything wrong with them I just find it funny that most people think it is a must have kinda thing. Kinda like a black fuel door.
That is another one. I keep telling myself I should get a black fuel door and just before pulling the trigger I tell myself that I don't NEED it right now. Keeps falling down on my list of mods.
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Don't you get a decent amount of glare on your hood and in front of the windshield from the windshield bar and A-pillar lights? When I had all my lights I had them on a light bar on the roof. While they worked extremely well and the residual glare wasn't a disaster I did find it a bit annoying. Enough so that I said never again above the windshield. If I ever do go down the light road again they will all be mounted on the bumper.
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All my lights i use at certain times my piaas i use at night when it rains, my winsheild lights i use going down back roads looking for deer.and my finger on the switch if i see someone coming,the stock fogs i use kinda like daytime running lights when its overcast .but after switching my headlights out a year ago they throw enough light for everthing( hella h4 ) Susquehanna motorsports
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Now people buying thousands of dollars of aux lights & not hooking them up? That's news to me. I can't imagine walking up to a rig with a bunch of lights not plugged to anything. Lol.
I spend a bit of time around a 4x4/ truck accessory shop and most of the rigs I see like this just have the cheapest lights they can find mounted on a bar. I have personally seen it done on close to a dozen different vehicles. So if I have seen that many I have a feeling there are a lot of vehicles rolling around like this.
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I got two daylighters mounted on my windhshield and they are amazingly useful when traveling at night when theres no streetlights. Beaches, forest roads, or desolate highways, they are nearly a must have. But i agree, a lot of people buy them for the look... Wouldnt be surprised if they werent even plugged into anything
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Don't you get a decent amount of glare on your hood and in front of the windshield from the windshield bar and A-pillar lights? When I had all my lights I had them on a light bar on the roof. While they worked extremely well and the residual glare wasn't a disaster I did find it a bit annoying. Enough so that I said never again above the windshield. If I ever do go down the light road again they will all be mounted on the bumper.
Windshield bar is a spot so there is zero glare on the hood from it. The a pillar D2s are driving beam so they glare a tiny bit on the side of the hood but its not even visible from the inside. If I can ill take a pic of all the lights on from inside the cab.
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I assume you are talking about people/rigs similar to me.....







Now, I obviously can't speak for anyone else, but I personally use them a lot. I do a lot of photography, and end up lingering on trails way past sunsets to get the optimal shots. I drive in pitch black darkness all the time and I like to be able to cover all forward angles. One lightsource is not capable of lighting everything. I loved driving in Moab and basically having my own daylight. I can run trails at night that most wouldn't be able to simply because they can't see anything.

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Windshield bar is a spot so there is zero glare on the hood from it. The a pillar D2s are driving beam so they glare a tiny bit on the side of the hood but its not even visible from the inside. If I can ill take a pic of all the lights on from inside the cab.
With my Rock Hard cage I can't even see my hood. I guess if someone was having issues with glare they could always add a cage.
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With my Rock Hard cage I can't even see my hood. I guess if someone was having issues with glare they could always add a cage.
The pic I posted lighting up the canyon in Moab you can actually see how direct the roof bar is. You don't want to put a flood bar up high, that's when you get insane glare.
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They work on vampires equally well.
Make sure to use the same wavelength of light as daylight. At least get the Kelvin rating close.

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The night the Tornado hit Moore, OKlahoma, we had quite a few trees down here. I was trying to go check on family and ended up having to pull several downed limbs and small trees out of the road so I could get to them. It was dark as hell and rain was coming down like you wouldn't believe. All I have is a pair of KC knockoffs on the front. After that night, I plan on getting more lights, front and rear, as soon as I can afford it. When you need em, they're worth every penny.
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The night the Tornado hit Moore, OKlahoma, we had quite a few trees down here. I was trying to go check on family and ended up having to pull several downed limbs and small trees out of the road so I could get to them. It was dark as hell and rain was coming down like you wouldn't believe. All I have is a pair of KC knockoffs on the front. After that night, I plan on getting more lights, front and rear, as soon as I can afford it. When you need em, they're worth every penny.
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All my lights i use at certain times my piaas i use at night when it rains, my winsheild lights i use going down back roads looking for deer.and my finger on the switch if i see someone coming,the stock fogs i use kinda like daytime running lights when its overcast .but after switching my headlights out a year ago they throw enough light for everthing( hella h4 ) Susquehanna motorsports
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Where I'll be living we get 6 straight months of no sun (literally). No paved roads so I have no idea what I'm driving over if it's solid ice/gravel or permafrost/tundra. Also instead of deer running at me I have to worry about polar bears, moose, & wolves. One of my buddies totaled his FJ driving 45 MPH & a polar bear just jumped right in front of him, . He ended up getting a JK as a replacement vehicle. Maybe it happened for a reason. Lol.

Now people buying thousands of dollars of aux lights & not hooking them up? That's news to me. I can't imagine walking up to a rig with a bunch of lights not plugged to anything. Lol.
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I haven't done my lights yet. But when we use to camp. Getting back to camp site was a little tight so it was nice being able to see where you were going. The older TJ don't have the brightest lights and converting them helps but still nice to have extra light when it is needed. When I added extra lights mine will be hooked up and used. Otherwise I won't do it.
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Ah ok. Although I don't have extras yet, I will soon. I live in Tucson and when you're out in the desert in the middle of the night, it's quite dark and some areas you can run pre-runner style and haul ass, so the more light the merrier.
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My roof bar is a spot only and illuminates for up to a mile which on long trails (such as northern Nevada) is very helpful. I don't use it on windy forest trails as its just not necessary. The roof bar is for long distance throw.
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These are all good reasons to have more lights, but it does not explane why SOOO many folks think you have to HAVE them. Including Mall Crawlers. I guess it really does just come down to lots of people do it since it looks cool and want a jeep that looks like it can go anywhere, and people get used to seeing it on jeeps that "can go anywhere" so maybe they think you have to have them to be able to go anywhere?
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I have two KC slimlights on the windshield (a pillar). I will admit that I put them on cause I think they look cool. Classic never goes out of style right? To me round KC's on the windshield of a jeep is a classic look. With that said I actually use them more than I would have guessed (couple of times a month). I find myself running in and out of rig roads late at night from time to time for work and they come in handy for spotting deer. (Altho a lot of times they are only on for a few miles.)
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These are all good reasons to have more lights, but it does not explane why SOOO many folks think you have to HAVE them. Including Mall Crawlers. I guess it really does just come down to lots of people do it since it looks cool and want a jeep that looks like it can go anywhere, and people get used to seeing it on jeeps that "can go anywhere" so maybe they think you have to have them to be able to go anywhere?
Most of them you see are probably for looks. Old man story ahead:

When the CB craze was going big time, there was a local dude who had antennas all over his vehicle. Practically every place you could stick one. I don't think any of them them were even hooked up, but it looked good (to him)

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