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Old 08-15-2010, 10:13 PM   #1
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Why are 18's more expensive than 22's?

I looked up 255/70/18 tires on tirerack.com but they were more expensive than a set of 305/40/22's. Any reason why?

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yep. But, I've often wondered, (cause I don't get out much), if that's really the case, then why are 15's cheaper than 18's??????? Cause they have more rubber........
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"Supply and Demand". They make more of one size because it is more popular. This causes the prices to vary from size to size regardless of amount of rubber.
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I wanted to buy some 18 inch Rockstar rims and use the 255/70/18s that are on the stock wheels, but they recommend 235/65/18. Would it be a problem to get those rims with the tires I already have. If so, what would be the problems?
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How wide are the wheels? That's the only issue I can think of, but as long as they're 8" wide you won't have a problem with the tire seating. The 235/65's would look ridiculous on much of anything, IMO.....
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Not sure how wide they are. Just got the jeep and they came on there. When i looked up spec s my model jeep said it didn't come with 18's. I will figure it out though. Thanks.
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I meant how wide are the rockstars. Your stock Moabs are 8", iirc.
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"Supply and Demand". They make more of one size because it is more popular. This causes the prices to vary from size to size regardless of amount of rubber.
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I have a ?... I am new to Jeep- was consiering a Sahara. but the 18's bug me too.. after I wear the tires out, I will not have much of a choice on good off road tires. any suggestions before I actually make the JEEP purchase.. should I get a Sport- or mountain or Rubicon.. just to get 17's
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If you like the Sahara, don't buy a different model just for the wheels. Just buy different wheels. You will anyway, every one does You'll want wider tires and need less backspace. Trust me, you won't be able to help yourself.... If the Sahara has more dohickey's than you need then get a Sport, if you feel the need for an offroad beast out of the box, get a Rubi....
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Inferno, yo uare a wealth of knowledge thanks. I saw this pic on the net and i think it looks sweet! I want to do something like this but I already have a vehicle with 20's and it is a pain in the ass to maintain all the components needed to support them, plus I dont want to change gears on the Jeep etc. I know a lot of people here dont like 20's, but this Jeep looks good with them.

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the rockstars look nice but at this point a lotssss of people have those, I see them all the time
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Jeeps need sidewalls IMO. 20's or 15's shouldn't need anything extra, it's the height of the tire that'll get ya. But, and this is strictly my opinion, a Jeep looks better with more sidewall, low profile tires are for street machines. I like a bit more cushion between every bump in the road and my fanny.....
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Jeeps need sidewalls IMO. 20's or 15's shouldn't need anything extra, it's the height of the tire that'll get ya. But, and this is strictly my opinion, a Jeep looks better with more sidewall, low profile tires are for street machines. I like a bit more cushion between every bump in the road and my fanny.....
I bolded the important line.

A certain amount of sidewall is necessary to augment the suspension and facilitate airing-down.
32s on 18s don't yield enough sidewall to air-down effectively offroad. 33s on 16s do.
By going from a nominal street pressure of 32psi on a 33/16 tire to a trail-friendly (and non-beadlock-friendly) 17psi, you've effectively doubled your contact patch, enabled your tread to deform over sharp rocks/rebar/cacti, and spread out over sand/mud/ice.

In the Hilldweller book of things that matter, aesthetics come in dead last. Get what works then get what's pretty. If you can make the two meet somehow, more power to ya.

This is my Sahara. It came with 18s ---- I didn't know that at the time; I thought it came with 17s. Saw it when I got home and was uniquely embarrassed.



Buy the cheapest wheels that your dealer will put on. Get a credit on what it comes with in the first place.
Then buy some aftermarket wheels and rubber. It's the best economic and performance thing to do.
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I bolded the important line.

So, you're saying all the rest of that was bunk?


Buy the cheapest wheels that your dealer will put on. Get a credit on what it comes with in the first place.
Then buy some aftermarket wheels and rubber. It's the best economic and performance thing to do.
^^^ This is my plan, if I ever buy new.... The tiny steelies with the chrome wheel covers... May make them deliver it to me at the tire store....
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I have a ?... I am new to Jeep- was consiering a Sahara. but the 18's bug me too.. after I wear the tires out, I will not have much of a choice on good off road tires. any suggestions before I actually make the JEEP purchase.. should I get a Sport- or mountain or Rubicon.. just to get 17's
This is not true at all my friend. hilldweller showed me some things and helped me pick out some awesome tires for my stock 18" sahara wheels. they are without a doubt expensive but they have alot of nice tires that fit the 18" rims. my favorite by far would probably be the goodyear kevlars. they have been rated very high in several tire shoot out's, a few magazines and a few members on here that i have spoke too.

i ended up buying a set of these after talking to hilldweller and figuring out what the biggest size i could get that would fit without any fitment issues. we came up with 275/65r18. bad news for me is i bought them and now my plans have changed so up for sale they went here on the forums. if your interested i think i have a link with some pictures in my for sale thread.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f14/fs-...new-56059.html

Either way you decide to go, i would recomend asking as many questions as i could before buying. most the time people here help out alot. good luck with your jeep build!
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Those tires are the exception to the rule, guygettnby; the kevlar sidewalls let you air-down a bit, even with the relatively low-profile sidewall. It still won't yield quite as large a contact patch but the grip with those tires is fairly tenacious at street pressure anyhow.
Too bad that you have to sell them.
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So, you're saying all the rest of that was bunk?
Never, my sweet.

But you do talk much prettier than I do and have a talent to fluff it up a bit more. You're hardly ever harsh or offensive... ...which I tend to be, on occasion...
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Inferno, yo uare a wealth of knowledge thanks. I saw this pic on the net and i think it looks sweet! I want to do something like this but I already have a vehicle with 20's and it is a pain in the ass to maintain all the components needed to support them, plus I dont want to change gears on the Jeep etc. I know a lot of people here dont like 20's, but this Jeep looks good with them.

That isnt bad at all.. I like the Green alot and the black wheels look good.

But the other day I seen a JK with 20's or bigger . They were Chrome with red bicycle spokes and red lip.

Its hard to believe some people see that and are like,, o ya gotta have that... And others that just shake thier heads.

It was a nasty site..............
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Those tires are the exception to the rule, guygettnby; the kevlar sidewalls let you air-down a bit, even with the relatively low-profile sidewall. It still won't yield quite as large a contact patch but the grip with those tires is fairly tenacious at street pressure anyhow.
Too bad that you have to sell them.
they are deffilently some very nice tires. they come with a nice price tag too... so much so that i could only afford to buy 4 of them at the time. i wish i didnt have to try and sell all the stuff i collected over the last few months but life throws ya curve balls every now and then. just lucky i didnt install the stuff already. this way i can atleast try tosell it all.

i was only 2 items short of being able to install everything and be ready to do some good wheeling. who knows maybe things will change before i sell the stuff.
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That isnt bad at all.. I like the Green alot and the black wheels look good.

But the other day I seen a JK with 20's or bigger . They were Chrome with red bicycle spokes and red lip.

Its hard to believe some people see that and are like,, o ya gotta have that... And others that just shake thier heads.

It was a nasty site..............
that remind me of this jk unlimited i have been seeing around me recently. it is completely white.. and i mean COMPLETELY white. the body, hard top, bumpers, mirrors, step bars, grill, fenders and pretty much anything else you can think of.... it just doesnt look right being all the same color and all of it being shiny... im used to every jeep i see being 2 tone in some way. i know the new jeeps will be color matched from what i hear, but i just dont think it looks right.
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I looked up 255/70/18 tires on tirerack.com but they were more expensive than a set of 305/40/22's. Any reason why?
Because 22's are horrid, and they figure if anyone wants to destroy a vehicle to use them, they should have to pay.







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Great X09...... now I can't eat breakfast............
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This is my Sahara. It came with 18s ----



THIS is badass!! I have the exact same model. I'm keeping the original wheels but adding some more aggressive rubber next time around. Although when I do get another set of tires I'm buying used. the guy I know had a train load of deep lug tires but they were all 17 inch tires. But he said he could get some great deep lugs at $50 each.

Don't get me wrong--I'll pay top dollar for permanent accessories like a cold air intake or a winch but I've never bought a brand new set of tires. Too many people out there totaling brand new cars with new or like new tires that get sold to used tire wholesalers.

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