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Old 02-13-2012, 11:03 PM   #1
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Why is my track bar rubbing the diff housing?

My 3.5" lift was installed at the dealership and I am not sure about the brand they used. In any event the stock front track bar appears to be hitting the diff housing. I've hit a few nasty dips, done some light off roading, and there is a nasty grinding noise coming from the font of the jeep. It appears a track bar drop bracket was used. Do I need to scrap the drop bracket and buy a poly performance adjustable track bar? I've attached a pic and highlighted the rubbing in green and the track bar in red. Thoughts?
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You're not sure what brand lift they used, and you're surprised that there's a problem?

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Well the clamp that mounts the steering stabilzer to the tie rod looks like a Synergy one. Maybe thats who made the lift?
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What brand TB are you using?

Edit... Oh wait stock w/drop bracket?

How bout Bumpstops?
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Old 02-14-2012, 12:21 AM   #5
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That looks like a TJ trackbar. Do you have a TJ or a JK?
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1) I put the Synergy/Fox steering stabilizer on, and I doubt the lift is the same brand
2) 3" Bump stops
3) 2012 JKU. A google image search shows a couple of pics with the same trackbar on JK's
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Could someone please take a pic of their front factory track bar for a comparison? How much of a gap above and in front of the diff housing is necessary?
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Old 02-14-2012, 11:27 AM   #8
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If your lift was installed at the dealership, why not just take it back and have them fix it?
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While that is an option it is 250mi one-way. If someone would be so kind as to post pics of their factory trackbar, and confirm that mine is incorrectly installed, that would be a good starting point.
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Thank you. It also appears that I have a dropped pitman arm. I am going to contact the dealership to see how they want to handle the repairs.
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Sorry, was looking at the wrong thing on your picture, did not see the red outline. It does look like you have a trackbar drop bracket and a drop pitman arm. You don't need those with only a 3.5" lift. Remove both parts and readjust and you should be fine. I would call the dealer because you will need a new alignment after removing those two parts.
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After further review, and discussion with a reputable vendor, I believe I have the Rancho 4" sport system. I was advised to get an adjustable trackbar to resolve the issue. We'll see what the dealer has to say about it.
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No word from the dealer yet, and the tech I spoke with at Rancho support says he's never heard of this happening. Here's another pic.
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No word from the dealer yet, and the tech I spoke with at Rancho support says he's never heard of this happening. Here's another pic.
What a mess.

Another vote for DIY
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What a mess.

Another vote for DIY
In all fairness, if I would have installed the lift using the same parts I would have had the same problem.
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What a mess.

Another vote for DIY
Big vote.

All of the tiny annoyances I experienced installing my lift pale in comparison to this debacle.
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In all fairness, if I would have installed the lift using the same parts I would have had the same problem.
Hoping you would have done some research and not gone with a Rancho lift that almost seems it was designed for a TJ.
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In all fairness, if I would have installed the lift using the same parts I would have had the same problem.
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Hoping you would have done some research and not gone with a Rancho lift that almost seems it was designed for a TJ.
It's the lift that's the problem, not the install.

When all is said and done, it's your Jeep. But at least look into what you're gonna put on it, especially in terms of a lift, which is essentially altering the stability of a cobblestone on wheels that can go 70 mph on the freeway.

As far as I can tell, you didn't even do a cursory check about the lift. If you had, you would've known the brand.

Not to crap on you overly much in the face of your expensive lift faux pas, but education nowadays is free, a few mouse clicks away.
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Why are you dumping on the OP, dealership installed the lift.
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Yes, it's my fault for not knowing what lift was installed. Let's move past that issue....

I was never aware that Rancho lifts were taboo and warranted negative feedback. I noticed a Rancho rep posting on another forum, so I'll see what he has to say.
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Yes, it's my fault for not knowing what lift was installed. Let's move past that issue....

I was never aware that Rancho lifts were taboo and warranted negative feedback. I noticed a Rancho rep posting on another forum, so I'll see what he has to say.
Surprised the dealership would install a Rancho lift. I thought they only made shocks and steering stabilizers
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Surprised the dealership would install a Rancho lift. I thought they only made shocks and steering stabilizers
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Why are you dumping on the OP, dealership installed the lift.
I'm not dumping on anyone. Simply pointing out that, if you're gonna get a lift – whether you install it yourself or have a shop do it – it would behoove you to know what lift is being put on your rig.
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I vote for taking it back in. The trac bar slapping the diff cover can be more than an annoyance. i would also lose the drop bracket. Unless the stock welds have been re-enforced, it's a break waiting to happen.


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I'm not dumping on anyone. Simply pointing out that, if you're gonna get a lift – whether you install it yourself or have a shop do it – it would behoove you to know what lift is being put on your rig.
Typically your posts are helpful, but in the case of my issue you insist on waving your finger and trying to belittle me.

Even if I knew what lift I had before posting this thread, I still have not come across any "avoid Rancho lifts at all costs" threads. In addition I would have had no way of knowing that I would encounter this issue.
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i vote for taking it back in. The trac bar slapping the diff cover can be more than an annoyance. I would also lose the drop bracket. Unless the stock welds have been re-enforced, it's a break waiting to happen.


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Surprised the dealership would install a Rancho lift. I thought they only made shocks and steering stabilizers
That's what I thought, too. Apparently wrong.

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Yes, it's my fault for not knowing what lift was installed. Let's move past that issue....

Point taken. Sorry if my comments seemed harsh.

I was never aware that Rancho lifts were taboo and warranted negative feedback. I noticed a Rancho rep posting on another forum, so I'll see what he has to say.

I really don't know if they're taboo. But if they are, you'd think the dealer would know. Lol...you'd think.
Okay.

Did you buy the lift separately and have the dealer install it, or did everything go through the dealer?

Better if it all went through them, since they'll be responsible for any mistakes.

Are you having any other issues than the rubbing? Do you happen to have alignment specs, i.e. caster (which should be +4º ~ +6º) and toe?

Is your Jeep driving okay...no twitchy steering, constant correction, etc? Did you have new tires/wheels put on at the same time as the lift, and, if so, what's the PSI in em?

Your problems are fixable, just need some more input...
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Old 02-16-2012, 03:04 PM   #29
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- Everything was purchased and installed by the dealer.
- Alignment was done and toe is good.
- Steering is not twitchy.
- 36" super swampers w/ 26 psi

I got in contact with someone at Rancho who is going to rectify all of my issues. He thinks something is wrong with the springs because the lift should be higher than it is now. This is the main reason the track bar is rubbing the diff housing.
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kinda odd that people are going off on the rancho lift here; this is essentially the exact same lift that AEV sells; no control arms, just brackets and springs. I have heard rancho brackets are beefier though. It sounds like the dealer just installed the wrong parts or the wrong parts shipped with the lift

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