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Old 12-10-2011, 04:06 PM   #1
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Question Winch & Bumper Questions

Ordering 2012 Rubicon Unlimited this week. I already have a RC 2-1/2" lift kit that will utilize the factory springs/shocks. I also bought a Rugged Ridge XHD rear bumper and tire carrier. I bought 5 Rugged Ridge Hyper-Silver wheels and will mount Goodyear 315/70/17 Duratracs on them.

Now I'm contemplating buying a Rugged Ridge XHD front bumper with the standard ends and hoop to match the rear bumper. I'm also looking at buying a Rugged Ridge 10,500 LB. winch with fabric rope. I will only do minimal off-roading, so maximum articulation is not important.

I have several questions:

- Will I still have a decent ride quality with the extra weight?

- Will I restrict tire clearance too much?

- How much will this extra weight lower my ride height?

- Does anyone have this winch or the 8,500 Rugged Ridge winch?

- Any problems with these winches?

Thanks for your help, as I'm new to the Jeep family.

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Old 12-10-2011, 04:27 PM   #2
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If I was going to do "minimal offroading," I wouldn't bother with a winch at all.

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I lost 3/4" on the front when I did mine though I have the steel cable which adds I think 20 lbs. But when I but the stiffer stock coils that came out. 53/54 fronts are pretty weak so it was easy to sag a little with them. The stubby end caps really help the look.

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Old 12-10-2011, 09:31 PM   #4
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Thanks for the reply.

Maybe I didn't use the proper terminology, but I meant the longer "standard" ends, not the storage ends or flat or stubby ends.

How do you like the RR winch?

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Old 12-11-2011, 02:21 PM   #5
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I agree, why a winch if you don't plan on getting in tippy or precarious spots? The Rugged Ridge gear IE bumpers are heavy, I think you will have some spring sag if you are utilizing stock springs (I assume you are doing a spacer lift). So your 2.5" pucks may not yield 2.5" of lift once everything is on.

BTW that is a Smittybilt XRC winch Rick is running.

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yaa, if you use stock springs, with that much extra weight.. you might have a problem..
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Old 12-12-2011, 03:22 PM   #7
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I have two Polaris ATVs. Both of them have winches which very seldom get used. However, when you need them, they're invaluable. I feel that the winch on the Jeep would be cheap insurance.

Any recommendations for replacement springs? Can I still use the stock Rubicon shocks? The lift kit that I have uses relocation brackets and spring spacers. Should I reconsider using a different lift kit? I would like to retain the factory ride quality.

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Old 12-12-2011, 04:04 PM   #8
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I have two Polaris ATVs. Both of them have winches which very seldom get used. However, when you need them, they're invaluable. I feel that the winch on the Jeep would be cheap insurance.
Agreed, but you should never wheel alone. And the frequent wheels are likely to have a winch.

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Any recommendations for replacement springs? Can I still use the stock Rubicon shocks? The lift kit that I have uses relocation brackets and spring spacers. Should I reconsider using a different lift kit? I would like to retain the factory ride quality.
In light of the weight you're considering, I'd get a good coil lift. Those that provide shock extensions allow you to keep the Rubicon shocks. See the 2.5" TeraFlex kit, for example. You can also purchase extensions separately and get a kit that doesn't address shocks. But still, spacers will work.
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Would the 19/60 springs work for his setup?
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In light of the weight you're considering, I'd get a good coil lift. Those that provide shock extensions allow you to keep the Rubicon shocks. See the 2.5" TeraFlex kit, for example. You can also purchase extensions separately and get a kit that doesn't address shocks. But still, spacers will work.[/QUOTE]

Agreed, the springs included in coil lifts (such as the Teraflex 2.5) are generally stiffer and thus can hold more weight than the stock springs. However if you want a stock or better than stock ride and don't mind waiting, the AEV 2.5 inch lift is supposed to be coming out sometime early next year and it has progressive springs.
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I called Rough Country to see if they offered a heavy duty spring. They recommended calling OME. I called them and they recommended their heavy duty front spring and their 10mm spacer. They said that the combination should get me close to the 2-1/2" lift height with a factory-like ride, so I ordered them. The RC relocation brackets and rear spring spacers, along with the factory rear springs, should be ok, according to them. I'll be adding about 165lbs. to the front and about 140lbs. to the rear. The rear should actually level the normal rake that is there in stock form, at least IMO.

I've already spent $5k on accessories, and don't even have the Jeep yet!

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I called Rough Country to see if they offered a heavy duty spring. They recommended calling OME. I called them and they recommended their heavy duty front spring and their 10mm spacer. They said that the combination should get me close to the 2-1/2" lift height with a factory-like ride, so I ordered them. The RC relocation brackets and rear spring spacers, along with the factory rear springs, should be ok, according to them. I'll be adding about 165lbs. to the front and about 140lbs. to the rear. The rear should actually level the normal rake that is there in stock form, at least IMO.

I've already spent $5k on accessories, and don't even have the Jeep yet!

Randy
I had the OME HD springs. You'll be happy with them. They really are a quality product.
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We just got our 2012 unlimited rebicon, i want to find a bumper that i can hook my tow bar to so can fLAT TOW BEHIND RV? I seen one going down road, it just has the two molded brackets made right in bumper. All you need to o is hook straight to it. Any one know where to find, i appreciate any info.
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We just got our 2012 unlimited rebicon, i want to find a bumper that i can hook my tow bar to so can fLAT TOW BEHIND RV? I seen one going down road, it just has the two molded brackets made right in bumper. All you need to o is hook straight to it. Any one know where to find, i appreciate any info.
I'd start with researching this:

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